| IVOD_ID |
160450 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/160450 |
| 日期 |
2025-04-23 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-26-7 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第7次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
7 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
26 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第7次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-04-23T09:17:02+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-04-23T09:30:07+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:13:05 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/27ac2f54fdf75cc07ef1f3ad52dcc8a54d63fb5309bb2e637bed59d581dcd86fd60d33a093d294555ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
陳昭姿 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:17:02 - 09:30:07 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-04-23T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第7次全體委員會議（事由：邀請衛生福利部部長、財政部次長就「國家社會福利政策財源檢討及偏鄉兒童發展篩檢執行情形」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
【4月23日及24日二天一次會】） |
| transcript.pyannote[0].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[0].start |
7.65846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[0].end |
8.63721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[1].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[1].start |
13.90221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[1].end |
14.56034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[2].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[2].start |
14.74596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[2].end |
30.06846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[3].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[3].start |
17.36159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[3].end |
18.57659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[4].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[4].start |
30.42284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[4].end |
38.96159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[5].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[5].start |
39.60284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[5].end |
57.54096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[6].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[6].start |
57.92909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[6].end |
74.97284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[7].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[7].start |
75.69846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[7].end |
76.66034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[8].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[8].start |
77.53784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[8].end |
85.58721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[9].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[9].start |
85.80659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[9].end |
95.20596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[10].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[10].start |
95.74596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[10].end |
99.81284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[11].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[11].start |
101.04471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[11].end |
118.71284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[12].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[12].start |
118.57784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[12].end |
118.64534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[13].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[13].start |
118.71284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[13].end |
119.20221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[14].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[14].start |
119.03346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[14].end |
119.06721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[15].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[15].start |
119.13471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[15].end |
119.15159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[16].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[16].start |
119.16846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[16].end |
119.18534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[17].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[17].start |
119.20221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[17].end |
136.48221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[18].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[18].start |
136.80284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[18].end |
136.98846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[19].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[19].start |
137.51159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[19].end |
155.50034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[20].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[20].start |
155.78721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[20].end |
158.77409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[21].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[21].start |
159.82034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[21].end |
162.03096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[22].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[22].start |
161.74409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[22].end |
167.98784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[23].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[23].start |
168.51096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[23].end |
171.46409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[24].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[24].start |
172.71284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[24].end |
182.50034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[25].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[25].start |
181.94346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[25].end |
189.82409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[26].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[26].start |
190.58346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[26].end |
201.80534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[27].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[27].start |
201.53534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[27].end |
203.77971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[28].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[28].start |
202.46346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[28].end |
202.88534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[29].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[29].start |
203.35784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[29].end |
210.24284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[30].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[30].start |
210.61409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[30].end |
215.15346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[31].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[31].start |
211.37346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[31].end |
212.16659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[32].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[32].start |
214.64721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[32].end |
216.11534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[33].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[33].start |
215.44034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[33].end |
223.08471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[34].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[34].start |
223.08471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[34].end |
225.14346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[35].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[35].start |
224.31659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[35].end |
230.72909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[36].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[36].start |
228.09659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[36].end |
246.18659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[37].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[37].start |
246.59159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[37].end |
259.85534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[38].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[38].start |
260.26034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[38].end |
265.18784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[39].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[39].start |
265.42409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[39].end |
303.78096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[40].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[40].start |
303.98346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[40].end |
305.78909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[41].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[41].start |
306.12659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[41].end |
309.16409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[42].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[42].start |
309.23159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[42].end |
316.43721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[43].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[43].start |
315.76221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[43].end |
319.82909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[44].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[44].start |
316.67346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[44].end |
318.96846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[45].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[45].start |
319.33971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[45].end |
323.96346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[46].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[46].start |
323.71034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[46].end |
325.48221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[47].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[47].start |
325.81971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[47].end |
333.26159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[48].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[48].start |
332.16471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[48].end |
345.02346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[49].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[49].start |
336.65346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[49].end |
337.02471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[50].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[50].start |
337.02471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[50].end |
339.23534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[51].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[51].start |
340.45034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[51].end |
340.82159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[52].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[52].start |
342.76221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[52].end |
366.10034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[53].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[53].start |
364.19346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[53].end |
366.25221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[54].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[54].start |
366.25221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[54].end |
367.66971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[55].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[55].start |
366.97784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[55].end |
373.74471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[56].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[56].start |
369.34034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[56].end |
369.86346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[57].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[57].start |
372.56346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[57].end |
380.25846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[58].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[58].start |
374.92596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[58].end |
375.66846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[59].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[59].start |
380.61284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[59].end |
393.37034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[60].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[60].start |
386.51909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[60].end |
387.85221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[61].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[61].start |
391.90221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[61].end |
399.44534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[62].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[62].start |
395.42909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[62].end |
395.78346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[63].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[63].start |
399.79971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[63].end |
401.58846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[64].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[64].start |
402.34784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[64].end |
404.99721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[65].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[65].start |
402.82034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[65].end |
416.06721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[66].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[66].start |
415.07159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[66].end |
418.44659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[67].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[67].start |
416.72534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[67].end |
416.94471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[68].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[68].start |
418.78409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[68].end |
421.95659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[69].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[69].start |
419.62784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[69].end |
420.48846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[70].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[70].start |
422.44596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[70].end |
428.11596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[71].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[71].start |
428.50409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[71].end |
432.67221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[72].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[72].start |
432.85784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[72].end |
434.37659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[73].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[73].start |
435.05159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[73].end |
439.48971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[74].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[74].start |
435.65909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[74].end |
435.92909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[75].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[75].start |
435.92909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[75].end |
436.55346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[76].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[76].start |
438.94971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[76].end |
444.09659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[77].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[77].start |
443.32034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[77].end |
446.86409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[78].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[78].start |
444.83909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[78].end |
455.62221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[79].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[79].start |
456.36471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[79].end |
459.82409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[80].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[80].start |
459.87471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[80].end |
462.57471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[81].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[81].start |
462.08534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[81].end |
463.41846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[82].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[82].start |
462.84471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[82].end |
466.15221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[83].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[83].start |
464.59971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[83].end |
477.94784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[84].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[84].start |
467.21534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[84].end |
467.55284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[85].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[85].start |
478.20096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[85].end |
481.47471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[86].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[86].start |
481.82909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[86].end |
485.81159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[87].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[87].start |
486.30096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[87].end |
497.99534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[88].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[88].start |
498.29909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[88].end |
508.62659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[89].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[89].start |
508.77846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[89].end |
512.81159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[90].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[90].start |
508.89659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[90].end |
509.13284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[91].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[91].start |
511.17471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[91].end |
511.64721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[92].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[92].start |
512.99721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[92].end |
514.97159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[93].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[93].start |
515.12346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[93].end |
517.50284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[94].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[94].start |
518.02596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[94].end |
519.25784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[95].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[95].start |
520.42221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[95].end |
529.16346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[96].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[96].start |
520.45596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[96].end |
520.75971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[97].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[97].start |
529.51784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[97].end |
535.20471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[98].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[98].start |
535.39034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[98].end |
536.68971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[99].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[99].start |
537.85409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[99].end |
541.11096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[100].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[100].start |
541.11096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[100].end |
544.99221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[101].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[101].start |
544.99221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[101].end |
547.64159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[102].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[102].start |
546.10596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[102].end |
553.61534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[103].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[103].start |
551.47221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[103].end |
552.77159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[104].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[104].start |
554.03721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[104].end |
561.00659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[105].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[105].start |
561.49596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[105].end |
564.71909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[106].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[106].start |
565.07346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[106].end |
566.17034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[107].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[107].start |
566.55846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[107].end |
568.97159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[108].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[108].start |
569.37659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[108].end |
575.94096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[109].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[109].start |
574.54034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[109].end |
584.53034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[110].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[110].start |
584.53034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[110].end |
584.56409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[111].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[111].start |
585.00284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[111].end |
587.55096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[112].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[112].start |
588.14159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[112].end |
588.42846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[113].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[113].start |
588.96846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[113].end |
591.02721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[114].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[114].start |
590.03159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[114].end |
590.57159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[115].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[115].start |
590.72346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[115].end |
592.02284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[116].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[116].start |
592.30971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[116].end |
593.22096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[117].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[117].start |
593.72721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[117].end |
612.34034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[118].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[118].start |
612.57659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[118].end |
612.59346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[119].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[119].start |
612.62721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[119].end |
616.72784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[120].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[120].start |
616.98096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[120].end |
619.46159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[121].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[121].start |
617.95971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[121].end |
621.95909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[122].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[122].start |
619.49534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[122].end |
620.15346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[123].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[123].start |
622.38096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[123].end |
623.32596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[124].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[124].start |
622.97159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[124].end |
626.51534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[125].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[125].start |
625.46909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[125].end |
631.61159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[126].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[126].start |
631.32471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[126].end |
633.36659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[127].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[127].start |
633.56909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[127].end |
643.06971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[128].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[128].start |
633.87284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[128].end |
634.19346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[129].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[129].start |
641.61846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[129].end |
647.74409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[130].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[130].start |
643.93034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[130].end |
644.21721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[131].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[131].start |
647.81159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[131].end |
649.81971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[132].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[132].start |
648.92534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[132].end |
656.35034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[133].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[133].start |
656.35034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[133].end |
658.24034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[134].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[134].start |
657.17721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[134].end |
658.27409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[135].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[135].start |
658.62846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[135].end |
660.94034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[136].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[136].start |
660.75471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[136].end |
662.08784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[137].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[137].start |
661.68284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[137].end |
666.93096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[138].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[138].start |
666.96471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[138].end |
670.17096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[139].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[139].start |
670.17096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[139].end |
675.33471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[140].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[140].start |
670.37346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[140].end |
670.64346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[141].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[141].start |
674.54159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[141].end |
684.63284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[142].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[142].start |
683.99159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[142].end |
693.10409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[143].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[143].start |
691.29846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[143].end |
692.49659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[144].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[144].start |
693.10409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[144].end |
698.48721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[145].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[145].start |
697.17096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[145].end |
701.38971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[146].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[146].start |
698.94284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[146].end |
699.68534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[147].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[147].start |
700.30971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[147].end |
704.10659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[148].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[148].start |
703.36409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[148].end |
709.67534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[149].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[149].start |
705.94596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[149].end |
706.24971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[150].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[150].start |
709.15221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[150].end |
719.54721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[151].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[151].start |
717.30284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[151].end |
723.34409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[152].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[152].start |
719.93534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[152].end |
725.41971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[153].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[153].start |
723.98534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[153].end |
726.04409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[154].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[154].start |
726.01034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[154].end |
732.62534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[155].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[155].start |
732.79409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[155].end |
733.46909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[156].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[156].start |
733.04721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[156].end |
734.17784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[157].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[157].start |
734.17784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[157].end |
739.42596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[158].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[158].start |
737.55284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[158].end |
738.05909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[159].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[159].start |
738.21096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[159].end |
750.68159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[160].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[160].start |
743.52659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[160].end |
744.43784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[161].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[161].start |
747.61034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[161].end |
751.59284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[162].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[162].start |
751.13721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[162].end |
762.59534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[163].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[163].start |
757.65096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[163].end |
760.84034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[164].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[164].start |
761.53221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[164].end |
768.04596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[165].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[165].start |
766.61159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[165].end |
768.29909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[166].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[166].start |
768.29909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[166].end |
774.54284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[167].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[167].start |
768.31596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[167].end |
768.67034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[168].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[168].start |
774.59346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[168].end |
782.35596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[169].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[169].start |
783.21659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[169].end |
783.84096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[170].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[170].start |
784.07721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[170].end |
784.97159375 |
| transcript.whisperx[0].start |
7.657 |
| transcript.whisperx[0].end |
7.677 |
| transcript.whisperx[0].text |
來 鄧部長請 |
| transcript.whisperx[1].start |
15.643 |
| transcript.whisperx[1].end |
38.399 |
| transcript.whisperx[1].text |
我今天有兩個重要議題要跟您討論分別就是工研院FHIR專案涉及抄襲且濫權封殺吹哨者那第二個議題就是兒童早療的一個服務標準的檢討部長這個電腦軟體程式雖然不是我們兩個的專業可是我相信很多事情做事的原則是一樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2].start |
40.041 |
| transcript.whisperx[2].end |
57.223 |
| transcript.whisperx[2].text |
開放原始碼的這個目的就是要運用眾人的智慧他透過一個自由資訊的交換然後加速跟幫助這個開發的這個速度那每一個人都可以貢獻他新的想法來改善這個技術和大家共同推動這個科技的發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[3].start |
58.024 |
| transcript.whisperx[3].end |
75.555 |
| transcript.whisperx[3].text |
那很重要的社群之間要彼此尊重別人的智慧成果這是最起碼最基本的標準結果呢部長衛福部有一個專案叫做台灣醫療資訊標準大平台因為這個專案執行的單位叫做公研院他剽竊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4].start |
78.785 |
| transcript.whisperx[4].end |
99.034 |
| transcript.whisperx[4].text |
剽竊美國醫療醫療照護研究及品質機構我們叫做AHRQ所開發的程式然後有看不下去的人他去揭發吹哨揭發但是第一時間他被工研院在軟體社群拉黑名單禁止他跟他的公司使用工研院專案內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[5].start |
101.109 |
| transcript.whisperx[5].end |
116.634 |
| transcript.whisperx[5].text |
出了這件這麼大的事情衛福部資訊處處長李建章卻說沒有違法公園院沒有標註出處確實有不尊重著作權的嫌疑竟然是如此的輕描淡寫部長我講完再請你回答謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[6].start |
119.856 |
| transcript.whisperx[6].end |
134.454 |
| transcript.whisperx[6].text |
公園院執行專案的包括剽竊城市碼以及後續種種不當的行為不但沒有遵守城市圈的基本倫理那也已經違法了那我想知道外府部是在幫公園院闖的禍洗地嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[7].start |
137.578 |
| transcript.whisperx[7].end |
157.366 |
| transcript.whisperx[7].text |
那還是這位處長明明知道說公園院闖了這麼大的禍幹了這麼離譜的事情卻一再袒護還企圖淡化這個爭議竟然說沒有違法那部長你要不要代表這個衛福部對HRQ還有對被打壓的吹哨者對整個社群道歉你不覺得這件事丟了台灣的臉嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].start |
160.641 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].end |
170.747 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].text |
那麻煩你回答謝謝謝謝委員的關心我想這個事情我們非常重視而且因為這個那個牽涉到那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].start |
172.825 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].end |
189.755 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].text |
可以說是智慧財產錢,以及說在大家合作,各國在合作共同在發展我先講到說您對這件事基本看法,然後你要不要代表衛福部跟這個所有受害者道歉好,我想這個部分經過我們的調查,我們的資訊室理事處長也是,或者說是國內 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].start |
199.643 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].end |
219.818 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].text |
在醫療軟體開發裡面的...我不在談專業,我在談倫理所以我們當然一切都是一定去查它有沒有合法規、合倫理這是我們堅定的,一定要去...好,你有原則,我瞭解工人鏈現在期間所使用的工具是美國衛福部轄下機構所開發之開源軟體 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].start |
223.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].end |
228.044 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].text |
全球都可以自由下載,但是的確他沒有證明是,這個是事實我的質詢一定有憑有據的,我現在是要說,你有去看嗎?你去看衛福部臉書的那個說明文的裡面跟分享出去文章的下面的留言網友全部在罵衛福部擺爛,我現在只是揭露一小部分讓你看,我就不讀了 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].start |
246.678 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].end |
254.745 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].text |
那這件事是很嚴重的我覺得這件事跟論文抄襲是同等級的事情你不是原創沒有關係啊但是你去使用開放原始碼的程式碼你就要標註標註AHRQ的版權資訊但是公園不但隱瞞事實 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].start |
265.515 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].end |
276.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].text |
打壓吹哨者這個專案的前身其實是很多開放原始碼的社群先進共同努力的這個吹哨者也是其中的一員但是他卻面對回頭的打擊那以後誰還敢幫政府做事呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].start |
281.323 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].end |
300.939 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].text |
那面對這樣的這個打壓我不要說這還是國家計劃等於公園院的做法是拿納稅人的錢來掩護本來他該做沒有做的事情而且還藉此換取他不實在不正當的一個成就表現那衛夫一直迴避這個爭議不正視不道歉那出現這麼離譜的事部長你要怎麼處理我想知道你要怎麼處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].start |
309.326 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].end |
318.214 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].text |
我們一定誠懇的檢討,然後一定要合法規,如果有任何違反法規我們絕不負擔。是衛福部檢討?調查還是你交付給誰來調查?來怎麼樣做就怎麼樣做,我想這個部分絕對沒有容許有空間。是衛福部親自調查嗎? |
| transcript.whisperx[16].start |
327.042 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].end |
344.646 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].text |
這個部分我想請李建昌處長他已經這段時間做了很多事情可不可以簡單的報告一下我要強調李處長他也是包庇的其中之一不是我想你是計畫發包單位嘛我要求衛福部自己去調查是我們已經請美國律師還有國內專家都已經完成這樣初步的調查跟委員講一下美國律師的專業調查報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].start |
351.767 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].end |
365.586 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].text |
第一個他說這個東西是引用公用的軟體他不是所謂的商業軟體或者是一個論文美國希望大家來用所以我們去用它第二個他沒有做好的是標註沒有做好這件事情在開源的軟體裡面都 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].start |
367.048 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].end |
386.467 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].text |
本來就是大家可以用人家有這個雅量啊我們的公開資訊也要這樣現在重點是沒有標註嘛對 沒有標註這個事情在Airpods 2.0的第六章有清楚的公告做四件事情我們四件事情完全做第一件 三十日之內修正 完全修正第二 可做可不做就是我們通知美國HRQ |
| transcript.whisperx[19].start |
387.148 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].end |
399.307 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].text |
我們已經通知美國HRQ了第三這不涉商業所以沒有任何的這個法律的糾紛處長請你講話緩和一點你今天有問題很大那麼這個工研院把專案直接從開源社群關掉當作什麼事都沒有發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].start |
403.367 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].end |
418.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].text |
這個封鎖的部分我們第一時間發現就叫他打開第二個他封鎖的東西不是我們合約內要交付的事情所以我們就這個也要請工研院來嚴正的面對這個問題跟社群解釋請問你什麼時候打開你已經打開了嗎早就打開了這個第一時間我們發現我們就打開了 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].start |
422.486 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].end |
433.973 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].text |
部長我現在要說的 你要趕快徹查你看這一路過程 你聽嘛 他也不敢否認嘛是不是好好審視這個 你要想想看 徹查然後思考終止契約 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].start |
435.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].end |
439.944 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].text |
好 我們一切依法 依法嚴格辦理你這個公務員這個很離譜的那個聲明啦非常這個 而且會對於這個吹哨者打壓 這個是最嚴重的事吹哨者打壓 你要提出說明跟道歉你不但是打壓他 把他封鎖 不讓他使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].start |
456.394 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].end |
485.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].text |
我們去查明這整個情況如果有真的不應該打壓的那當然是絕對絕對要嚴格的來處理部長我要求的下面有幾項今天如果不完整我助理會把資訊給你我要求衛福部針對下一列事項公開跟國人說明而且要這個報告交到衛環委員會來第一個衛福部內部對於廠商的約束力跟執行成果驗證方式是什麼是不是隱當 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].start |
486.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].end |
492.342 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].text |
第二個抄襲的成果攸關兩個標案大家可以媒體可以注意一個是4億一個是1億多高達5億多請問實質交付的項目是什麼第三出現這麼離譜的爭議這個計劃執行單位的運作及經費的合理性他還追加預算勒是否允當你要不要重新檢視部長讓我講完我要求這些東西你看到三點我還有衛福部是否要給予該單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].start |
515.271 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].end |
536.017 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].text |
符合比例的處罰 例如終止契約台大校長當年涉及這個參與這個論文的抄襲結果他下台了轟轟烈烈吵了一段時間然後他下台了另外衛福部是否應該去了解該單位這樣行徑是否已經存在一段時間那你未來發包 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].start |
537.915 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].end |
565.848 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].text |
你要不要特別注意什麼我希望有這份報告出來啊好沒問題那個委員所關心的也是我們會很重視的不是你要承諾我你要做這件事情啊我承諾你針對這幾個問題我們好好的來調查要提出報告那你今天大家都知道是事實你要不要先向這個HRQ還有向這個吹哨者他被打壓然後被對這個社群開源社群要道歉F部可以道歉嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].start |
566.701 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].end |
584.093 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].text |
我想先了解事實以後,當然該法辦的就法辦,該管理的就管理,該道歉的就道歉公民院的鄉民跟處長的說法都已經寫給你看了,他就是輕描淡寫說我們沒有尊重這個標示等等,他就是用這個方式來處理啊沒有委員會找美國律師處理,不是我處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].start |
590.269 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].end |
610.479 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].text |
道歉這麼困難嗎道歉沒有很困難 該道歉就道歉但是問題我們把事情了解得更清楚以後需要道歉的我們就道歉 需要改善的我們就馬上改善這是重要的事情我想如果這整個過程其實該究責誰就究責誰不要說對那個很專業很認真的 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].start |
617.262 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].end |
633.138 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].text |
這個吹哨子他也有貢獻過啊,結果你們回頭打壓他啊封鎖他,然後封鎖他跟他的公司使用但是那個部分馬上,我們知道以後馬上要求公然鏈就馬上打開了,不能這樣子所以部長你是知道這件事情的啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].start |
634.479 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].end |
657.517 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].text |
所以我們如果確定了解了以後 該處罰就處罰 該做處理就處理當然該道歉就道歉我聽到你今天的這個詢問 我也覺得你也懂這件事情啦學金委員放心啦 我們這個結論是非常重視 而且該怎麼做就怎麼做這個跟抄襲入門沒有兩樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].start |
658.698 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].end |
671.971 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].text |
對於那個如果說在國際上丟臉有意見或者有提出一些不同的看法的話我覺得都應該要尊重這不是看法你就是原始沒有標註出處嘛你在竊取人家的智慧成果嘛這個部分其實是有 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].start |
676.895 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].end |
680.016 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].text |
其實是我們的資訊室有團隊然後找美國的律師去馬上第一時間去了解怎麼做你是吹哨者講了以後你們一邊說你告訴我有做一方面打壓他嘛就封鎖他嘛你們就做事這個從事院把他封鎖掉了我們衛福部絕對不會去打壓任何一個提供你發包你出錢你要監督 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].start |
700.745 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].end |
728.642 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].text |
那是工研院個人的行為但是我們必須督導你出的錢五億多你出的錢你發包單將來你要怎麼看待這個發包單會有分兩種情況一種是他們工研院本身自己的事情一種是跟我們合約的部分如果有合約的部分有違法有違反規定工研院我另外會去質詢我今天要知道是衛福部的態度衛福部發包單位的態度完全依法辦理而且如果有 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].start |
730.603 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].end |
758.476 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].text |
這個譬如說接了一個因為是廠商你江梅要把他黑名單列黑名單跟他吹哨子列黑名單以後他提出的機會你要好好看我想這個我依照我們過去多年的經驗當然如果有比較不好的記錄有前科嘛不好的記錄那當然就是未來在合作上面希望你記得這是做人基本原則做事管理的基本原則那我們基本上說實在衛福部所有的我們都是委員會制的說實在我們也沒有多今天他就發現了 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].start |
759.516 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].end |
776.421 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].text |
那這個一定會給委員一個很大的參考先不要推給公園院 公園院我自然會去質詢政府部的責任 我等你的道歉要公開道歉 這個臉丟到國外去了謝謝部長我們依法辦理 而且會跟國際間做好最好的溝通請委員放心謝謝 |