| IVOD_ID |
160442 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/160442 |
| 日期 |
2025-04-22 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
院會-11-3-8 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期第8次會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
8 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
院會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期第8次會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-04-22T14:30:56+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-04-22T15:01:10+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:30:14 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/dfcb33c81b5f4f3f6380f43183fcb97a75b01fba8380de05328b61d8df1607beeffd30bbe266b48c5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
陳永康 |
| 委員發言時間 |
14:30:56 - 15:01:10 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-04-22T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第3會期第8次會議（事由：一、對行政院院長提出施政方針及施政報告繼續質詢。二、4月18日上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。三、4月22日下午2時15分至2時30分為處理臨時提案時間。） |
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主席有請卓院長請卓院長備詢卓院長您好這個從4月2號面對美國川普總統的對等關稅政策跟挑戰我想全世界的國家都承受了很大的壓力雖然在4月9號 |
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他又宣布延後90天但是90天以後我們面對的挑戰目前是做預印呢還是分工呢還是未來看到有關全球貿易的到底是分裂呢還是美國所謂的競合我想我們國內的所有部會首長都在這邊窮盡功夫大家希望能夠以維護國家利益的前提下找到一個比較好的解套方案是 |
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那么我目前先把这个议题搁置我先从恶务战争因为川普总统他说到从他上任以来是很快就会把恶务战争解决但是最近他面临到的挑战使他有一种想法甚至说他可以脱手不管了那因此这个产生的问题给了我们一个教训 |
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我们可以看到乌克兰是一个领土广大的国家台湾是一个海洋海岛国家一个是靠路上交通线那么台湾是海上交通线情况状况都不一样这个俄乌战争打到今天已经1152天了 |
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实际上在战争开始的头六个月,乌克兰的难民跑到欧洲国家已经超过1100万人,三年的战争下来虽然有几百万回去,目前还有600万人。 |
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在散播在欧洲各地那这种情况啊对台湾面对未来的两岸如果有一个冲突的挑战我们除了要照顾国人的安全另外一个就是我们在台湾的有很多的外籍的居民不只是从事事业投资教学也有我们很多友好邦交的这个labor force啊 |
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那這個加起來我想外交部也了解將近90萬人那這種情況下要掌握一個預應時間讓友好國家跟我們有很好的溝通管道在兩岸情勢升級緊張到某種程度的情況下我們跟這些友好的國家要分擔責任我們要照顧我們的國民也要照顧其他國家在台灣工作的同仁那這邊你可以看到 |
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乌克兰跟台湾的面积比例是16.7比1那人口比例是1.9 4300万4300万对2300万但是密度比是1比8.7就说台湾人口密度非常高如果起冲突了我们除了希望能够产生嚇阻避免战争但是如果发生了就说中共犯台的情况下我们要保护我们的国土 |
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這個城鎮戰跟烏克蘭的狀況是不一樣的那另外一個值得我們關注的就是人均耗電比我們面積這麼小可是我們的耗電是烏克蘭的3.4倍那這個情況下讓我們知道就是說這個電力的供應跟電力的傳輸是我們的關鍵技術設施的第一優先的考量 |
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所以我们需要有一个所谓的共同图像这个图像是可以跨部会使用当我们谈乌克兰的时候我们了解台湾的大小也可以看到乌冬的战场目前这个面积已经可以含括两个台湾了所以它这个范例并不是适合拿台湾来比较说今天的乌克兰就是明日的台湾因为这个案例不同 |
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那烏東的戰場因為有美國的星鏈的技術所以它前線的士兵戰士跟家人通訊手機可以通在烏東的地區它都是靠星鏈提供通訊那麼因為我們在台灣的岸上的固定站台或者是Wi-Fi |
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如果暂时冲突中断的话虽然我们跟湾外博弈星公司签约但是通讯频道的数量以及频宽还是有限的这个部分我们希望将来这个地方持续努力也要加强我们的韧性所以乌克兰的战场虽然看到了许多的无人机运用 |
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幾千架上萬架的使用這種消耗型的無人機是因為有starlink提供鏈路才可以使用但這個case在台灣並不會 |
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具有這種同樣的功能因此我們政府未來如果跟Starlink要做溝通因為馬斯克是說他要百分之百掌握權那我們政府當初是希望五十五十我想在這個溝通過程中間如果川普政府還是支持區域安全重視亞太和平我覺得這是一個溝通的管道那麼除了現有的英國的One Web以外我們還要強化其他的鏈路那這個就是我們的社會韌性 |
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那至於在加薩走廊的站場給我們一個慘痛的教訓也就是說當你失去電力供應失去了醫藥 失去了食水 失去了糧食這種情況下就是社會結構的脆弱性就抽出來了這張圖表顯示是從2022年的2月24號 |
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俄国开始侵略乌克兰或进犯乌克兰在两个月之内俄国乌克兰美国欧盟甚至联合国他的重大措施政策事势都显示在这里面但是我们发现在其中啊就是在头两个月中间有三次可以 |
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就是說停火協議但是都沒有達成目標當然每個國家他的政治目標跟他的軍事手段有不同的搭配方法可是如果以當時的現象來看今天如果達成停火協議當時是 |
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俄罗斯希望顿内斯克 卢干斯克两个自治州变成独立国但是今天变成四个州被占领了加上克里米亚就五个地区如果当时能够具有魄力就讲不加入北约加入欧盟大家支持那乌冬的战场如果做一个很客观的严肃讨论 |
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這三年的仗除了一個世代的年輕人的教育人口社會設施全部毀掉以外 |
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戰爭的兩方沒有一個是贏家所以我們希望能夠掌握這種狀況看到關鍵的節點的時候要提供重要的分析因素因此這個方法論實際上是結合了這個所謂人工智慧的資料庫所以我們每一個戰場的情境我們都可以回溯將來檢討在哪個關鍵節點當時我們錯失了機會但是別人付出的教訓我們不要付第二次的學費 |
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那這個是當時4月21號4月24號的一個模擬情境的戰場情形你可以看到在這個上面的這個動態顯示實際上從4月份以後整個戰場就沒有擴大縮小除了去年9月的這個烏東他打了一塊小地方克爾斯克但現在俄國又幾乎拿回去了所以現在的談判 |
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可能要回到当年2015年2月15号这个明斯克二号条款可是呢因为双方在这13条里面都有背负了没有恪守这个条款的职责当然最后是俄罗斯撕毁条款那回过头来我们来想 |
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当年这个二战胜利我们光复台湾是因为马关条约在1895年的4月17号当时签订马关条约并不是单独割让台澎还包括辽东半岛但是因为呢当年俄国 |
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德國這個法國他們因為要享有原來的租界地所以他們不讓步因此蜻蜓又增加了3000萬兩白銀給這個日本 |
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至于其他的条款我就不提因此今天如果是俄罗斯跟乌克兰要谈到重新的停战协定以及签和平条约的话他要回到明斯克二号条款一共十三条我建议外交部的同仁在这个明斯克条款里面去了解一下他的细节 |
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因為所有東西你是回到上一次不管這條約接受或是撕毀可是它的precondition條件論就是你現在要回復談判的一個要求所以這個就是民視客的13條我想這個做一個參考 |
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那因為川普總統就任以來他在第一任這一年的任期內一定會向國會提出他的國家安全戰略報告那麼有國家安全戰略下面美國的國防部有國防 |
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在国防战略下他有他的军事战略那么还有他的印太战略还有他各种情报战略因此他是四个面向比方讲他的军事实力要被变他的外交立场要做预防 |
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他对市场经济南海要追求最重要的一条是美国现在专注法规专利他们很会修法保护所以这四个批实际上是国家安全战略里面一个共同的支撑那么因为我们现在希望我们的执政跟政府在这个任期内提出我们的一个国家安全战略 |
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那用這個戰略的架構讓我們的各個部會除了在政策上面從上到下有明確的政策指導在水平的協調上跨部會因為對應每一個不同的情境各部會他的分工跟承擔的責任並非按比例那這個點我提醒大家注意 |
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那前两天美国国会的特别助理团就是国会的对中共的这个小组团也访问也到这个我们立法院来访问那他们也关切到这个问题所以说你看这边不管是美国的国务院美国的这个国防部美国的CIA还有国会都有一个对中共政策研究小组可是他们的资讯是分享的所以你可以看这个 |
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川普就任以后他会定定他的核心目标国家利益实力元素战略要素兵力规模甚至在区域性他的解决方案他承担多少责任要付多少钱这个钱有可能是要现在的友好国家共同分担的所以他的这个战略指导从上到下明确他的实力从下到上要做支撑那这个给我们一个参考的一个构想 |
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比照美国作为我们的一个学习的经验,国家安全战略,国防战略,军事战略,以及各地区的作战的战略,它是有重叠性的,也就是说有明确的指导。因为目前我们政府并没有官方版的国家安全战略,虽然我们公布了一个四年期国防总检讨,但是美国在2017年就把它取消掉了。 |
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那因為就是因為從上到下跟下到上的支撐不能同調所以他就改成兩年一版的國防戰略因此我們在國防法內將來可以提出這個跨黨協商來修改這個國防法的要求因為我們只有QDR |
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虽然是四年期总检讨但是是前瞻我们并没有回顾我这个四年跟过去四年就上一个版本中间有哪些落差或是哪些还力有所未带的那我们要努力来做那么接着我们政府在今年又要出版国防战略那这个 |
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QD从上一个版本的48页进步到现在的63页内容增加了一些那么原来国防战略跟军事战略是一页半现在成长到四页我们也肯定但是跟邻近国家比内容还不足我们希望在国防报告书白皮书出来以后能够看得到有所精进 |
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那麼因為國家安全的各個領域,包括社會堅韌、太和和平、民心安定、經濟繁榮、軍事堅強,這裡面不同的面向,因為有不同的直接督導的長官, |
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有总统的有院长的有外交国防的有陆委的有海委的有国安会的那现在总统成立了三个特别委员会我们是肯定这三个课点委员会虽然的跨部会的协商还有民间有一些专业人士参与可是专业人士参与他提出的建言或建议要反映到不会去变成就说他并不是以 |
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成比例的這個分工單則而是這些要做的事要並到下一年的國防預算裡面他才能夠付錢雖然現在誠意很高但是現在呢目前只是做出建言那我們用這個來顯示一個為什麼需要一個結構性的支撐 |
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现在我们都在讲人工智慧的基础国内已经广泛在运用政府机构在用但是显然这个运用的方法还不能够短期达标就是有关于我们的所谓的关键基础设施跟全社会任性它这个互动关系并不是只是排列它的顺序哪一个优先哪个第二因此我们在这边你可以看出来 |
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他利用人工智慧根据我们的关键因素排出了不同的互动关系那这个互动关系呢是根据当前我们根据国际情势国内社会的韧性如何强化要投资什么时间可以达成所以它是一个互动的关联性这边看得到啊最关键性的东西啊就是电网 |
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電力分配網路設施資安能源的進口那社會結構還有呢醫療體系另外就是金融體系我們千萬不能因為 |
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因為遭到斷電或是海纜斷電外匯存底不能運用金融這個會受極大的影響因此在這個結構圖上我們可以提供這個院內同仁做個參考這個是他不只是看到表象的第一層他甚至向下還可以延伸到第三層那這種情況下可以加快我們的韌性結構的強度的這個推展 |
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这张图是从川普总统第45任到拜登总统46任到现在他回来第47任美国作为一个强权影响整个市局它可以运用的所谓的地缘战略地缘政治地缘经济它的组合运用它这里面在这个虚线圈圈里面涵盖了20个选项 |
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那至于他把你排出15个肮脏国这个他认为贸易不均等那是他的方法那至于他的手段呢这里面就产生了一个施压作为的不定性一个反复无常那对美国来讲他看到利可是必能可能是周遭国家承担因此我们要有我们的方法论去面对这个而不是说等他出招我们做反应虽然我们现在 |
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在您這邊召集的會議下880億後面會有很多深入的看法但是只是對於關稅但是對於外匯存底美債啦匯率啦黃金儲存啦這個我們內部啊當然跨部會要有一個更深入的這個協商那這個這是一個方法論啊就是我們來解看啊川普總統他的目的是美國利益優先 |
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美国再次伟大那他的方法是什么呢他采用了新霸权主义新重商手艺新孤立主义以及新工业主义目的方法他还有的手段他的手段非常厉害双重标准两手策略左右换力内外折中因此对于这个外面四个轴向我们再去看我们对事情判断通常有八个不同的面向就是主观的 |
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客观的宏观的为干的乐观的悲观的前瞻的反思的对这个不同的面向组合再去参考中国大陆的聚焦跟美国的聚焦我们在中间选择什么样的选项这里面啊没有最佳方案只是一个除错方案提供你选项中间哪些不理想的你可以把它太除那虽然这个 |
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这很多是结合了西方的兵学思想跟我们的孙子兵法这个概念上八种组合八种不同的面向就64个种甚至再有交错组合我们甚至可以产生512个选项但不是选项来支持你哪个好而是在选项过程中把不确定因素对我们不利的先太除就说犯错的机会比较少那这个方法论是未来我想提供我们的智库 |
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或者是学员单位做成一个政策建言提供我们政府做一个参考那这个呢就是这一次美中竞合外交部用的字是竞合是讲美国有竞争跟合作 |
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這competition corporation叫做competition但是也可能是美中鍛煉脫鉤結構那這種情況下他選了這五個國家比方講包括這個英國澳洲印度日本韓國這五個國家如何在中間博弈他的這個 |
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理論啊那這是一種方法論我覺得我們智庫可以做那同樣這五個國家他們自己彼此之間私下怎麼協商因為他們有的還是參與一帶一路所以中國大陸也在帶風向所以這個情況下我們對自己的角色定位以及調節的空間有多少我覺得要有一點方法論而不是用單面的論述那這個 |
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我也是提供贵院以及我们政府部门希望参考我们需要一个国家安全战略那么里面产生国内环境的影响还有国际环境的冲突左右各列了12项 |
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那他的目的呢是最后能够做风险评估对于聚焦在两岸情势外交政策国防政策经济政策能源政策治安政策人口政策社会的韧性做一个客观的分析最后产生的国家安全战略是什么呢是促进繁荣社会和谐维护主权保护民主和平避战强化安全这个是我们国家安全战略的目标那根据这个 |
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賴總統的17條我們發現這17條裡面它也不是同樣的百分比例聚焦在哪一點上那我們看到這點當然我們還有未來努力精進的空間就是一直強調國家安全戰略不只是從上到下垂直的政策指導 |
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還有一個就是水平的跨部會的協商承擔不同的任務責任但是並不是相同的百分比那這個有一個戰略的框架指導會對我們未來施政上有更好的幫助那這個最後一張圖啊我們可以看到這個美國開啟了全球貿易制裁與中共這個 |
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嘴巴上乐意是讲进河了那会不会锻炼脱钩目前还看不出来我觉得永远他保留一个手法就是说他有一个妥协折中他的底线但他不会明讲那我们的外交经贸战略的因应呢我们用 |
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這個例子就是台積電這次我們看出來了它完全反映出把地緣經濟地緣政治地緣戰略串結成一個整體那在這個裡面的供應鏈裡面是相互供應鏈如果在這個時候把台積電的功能去掉 |
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那人人都是输家所以我相信我们坚持台积电在国内的持续发展在国外投资但是因为互为供应链就是相互依托谁都不能少谁所以看得到这个地缘经济他考虑的人口位置贸易源头产业链路地缘战略军事布局威泽赫祖维护利益 |
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地缘政治这个讲白了就是我们讲了就是说国家的利益优先合众连横第二个我们看到这些大国强权他一定是双标双轨 |
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这个没有说是从头到尾一贯一致的因此在这种情况下我们需要有一个国家安全战略我们的战略目标是牵动邻国的利益营造区域的平衡巩固贸易源头强化产业的链路多元确保多元生存的缝隙 |
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那这样子有利于我们的外交部局精进军事能量运用以小牵大虚实联动正齐相生的合纵连横 |
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那最后一个我们常常讲我们跟很多友好国家是同路人但是我是查了一些别的资料同路未必同道同道不同德同德不同心同心不同人同人不同调好朋友里面的分寸捏拿中间也不见得是完全是coherent同调的我想今天的问证以上的题目请院长做一个参考 |
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我們站在質詢的過程中間也是代表人民監督在同樣另一個角色上其實是互動學習我看到台沙過去我們很多的工作同仁只是因為今天角色換過來了我站在這邊也可以想到當年我站在對面的時候也被質詢過所以我們講這是互動學習我特別請院長給我們一些指教 |
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非常感謝委員每次聆聽委員的高見我真的是獲益良多更深深感受委員在準備這麼豐富、詳盡而且是非常難得的資料當中的用心尤其你剛剛對17項總統在國安高層會議的對照裡面關於人口對策、人工智慧、醫療、交通、金融體系沒有在17項當中 |
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也許之前之後都會在其他來彌補我想這個就是國家整個一體那過這段時間我們也做了多項的城市韌性以及全社會韌性的相關演習我們從演習跟演練當中期待能夠再發現一些不足之處可以做更有效率的來補充那麼尤其是委員一直強調國家安全策戰略 |
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國家的確需要一個安全的戰略那這個安全戰略委員當然是非常的專業那你我應該共同認知到這個安全戰略是在憲法架構下以總統統帥權為主衍生到各部會我們從資訊的收集到最後面的執行面都是在憲法的架構總統的統帥權這樣完整底下去做的安全架構 |
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這個倒是非常感謝委員能夠這樣來提醒那麼我一再也強調說我們在跟美國在這一次的關稅爭議的談判當中我們一直以國內的產業支持為優先出發再來就是我們從過去到現在備妥了方案希望能夠緊迫的最佳時間跟美方進行談判談判的過程 |
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在以爭取國家最大最大的利益維護產業國際競爭力讓國人能夠安心三項原則來進行那跟委員報告這個工作到目前進行我們仍然是在最優先行列的國家當中我們已經在4月11號 |
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有第一次的視訊會議現在雙方就視訊會議的內容再做更多的詳實精進希望期待最近的時間內很快的有一個更好的這個共通來處理雙方經貿產生的問題然而在這個國際經貿局勢大變的時候台灣應該有累積到國家的能量跟各國尤其包括跟美國我們採取更公平穩定的貿易關係這絕對有利於我們未來在 |
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科技產業供應鏈上領先地位的繼續的發揮所以以上這幾項都是總統在歷次會議當中明確的指示行政院也現在將17項的因應措施後續的一些立法修法工程計畫還有設施計畫的一個整體結構都已經在著手進行適當的時機我們就會拿出來討論我也始終認為台灣不能有戰後英雄 |
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台灣要有一個能夠帶領台灣走向和平的一個國家領導人我想賴總統也是秉持這樣的 |
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这样的自我的责任感所以他才提出说我们对国防安全我们国防预算能够在我们财政合一的许可之下以基于我们自己国防之所需对于设备的新购我们可以达到GDP3%这样的目标那么今年我们尝试要往这个目标来迈进当然这个是国家整体的财政结构的问题 |
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所以在多項的委員提到的過程當中總統也在日前有一個講話那麼我再替他來做一些說明從過去的西進到南向到東拓其實現在我們講究的是北和希望能夠有同步的發生同步建立好的關係當然我們會有除錯的選擇但是我們認為全世界四載之內都可以成為兄弟所以我們現在立足台灣 |
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布局全球 |
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行銷全世界我們只是在中間加了一個加強美國這是為產業而做的希望產業不要因為關稅問題喪失了自己的國際競爭力或者就國內的市場也變成這個物價開始上漲起來所以加強美國到美國投資到美國採購這都是政府的政策在這同時我們除了希望雙邊能夠基於共同利益得到一個對關稅的合理協議之外未來我們也會顧慮到是否有 |
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中國的貨品低價反傾向台灣造成我們國內各項的問題以及 |
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經過台灣違規轉運到美國到世界各地去讓我們在國際貿易的信任度上被打折這個也是目前我們在做的我相信這個在您提出的包括經濟軍事外交三方面要來就國家安全的考量這個方向跟現在政府的走向是一樣的容許未來有更多的機會向委員再來一一的請教在這幾個當中關於我們的 |
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全體性的 全國性的 甚至全球性的戰略思考跟戰略的構成我們希望跟委員 我再能夠有機會再向委員來請教 |
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最後我再跟您提出一個建議就是當國防預算在增加的過程中不只是向美方採購重要的軍事裝備或者是國內培養我們國防產業的基礎另外一個就是人才的培養我們軍事教育的經費要增加特別謝謝謝謝委員我們大家共同努力謝謝 |