| IVOD_ID |
160431 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/160431 |
| 日期 |
2025-04-22 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
院會-11-3-8 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期第8次會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
8 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
院會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期第8次會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-04-22T09:01:18+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-04-22T09:17:35+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:16:17 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/dfcb33c81b5f4f3f8708063d4aad743e75b01fba8380de05fb326c0d1c12ee0f4001ca9689ad817b5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
林國成 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:01:18 - 09:17:35 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-04-22T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第3會期第8次會議（事由：一、對行政院院長提出施政方針及施政報告繼續質詢。二、4月18日上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。三、4月22日下午2時15分至2時30分為處理臨時提案時間。） |
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好謝謝院長請我們行政院卓院長麻煩請卓院長備詢另外請我們內政部麻煩請內政部備詢陸委會的邱主委麻煩請陸委會備詢 |
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時間暫停 林委員那我們就是最多就是三位因為我們的硬體設備就是這樣 好嗎好 如果您想其他的部長我們再請這邊的部長下去換一個 好不好好 時間開始 麻煩請林委員林委員好好 院長 主委還有部長大家早 |
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我想卓院長一向我個人跟你就任到現在520到現在我說實在我看得出來啦你是非常無奈以我了解過去的卓榮泰確確實實有所無奈的在做中華民國的行政院院長當然我們看得出來本黨一向包括我在內 |
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理性務實科學我們絕對不會因為人而來拗任何事情有多少證據講多少話有什麼事情我們也會多體會執政者的苦處我也知道 院長你對最近的內政問題確實千頭萬細對於大罷免你也非常無奈 |
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對於關稅的問題 當前現在所有的錢民 大家非常關注的關稅問題這也就是一句話 大國任性 小國忍受 |
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這些東西本來就是很無奈所以我也知道你雖然做了中華民國的行政院長但是確實有很多無奈的事情但是院長我說實在的我特別還是要鼓勵和勉勵你 |
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真的有些事情要面對問題解決問題真的因為你現在所有的行政院長當中我在做比較你的人品是好的很但是你現在做出來的事情確實是讓人民非常無奈我必須提供一個資訊給院長做參總因為這些關稅問題 |
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你知道你的民調下7%嗎所以這個提供給你做參考那我在想我時間給院長30秒的時間針對這些你認同我這些說謊嗎確實無奈最大的無奈來自立法院的結構對行政院送出的種種的法案 |
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都一概不予同意而且立法院通過的法案一再違背預算法跟憲法的規定好 超出預算超出設出從來沒有徵詢行政院這個無奈才讓我寸步難行院長 這個你已經講你已經講過很多次了你的無奈不是這個這些好不好 我特別要提醒你並不了解我的無奈你的無奈我都了解不然我不會開頭就讓你有這種說明的機會 |
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我坦白跟你講啊 現在就是 賢己有政黨 執政無政黨這種心態 去執政 那就沒有問題可是你們現在不是啊所以 燕子啊 我不要跟你辯論這些我一定會尊重你 現在你的處境但是 我還是要呼籲 |
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我今天特別的主題就是要你沒有問題但是你的格言是大大有問題為什麼不要再造謠不要再造謠我要請問劉部長3月29號 |
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你在下鄉演講的時候請問一下你為什麼指責台灣民眾黨吃台灣米變成中國粿拜託你告訴我為什麼 |
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報告委員,我這是以個人的身份到...你不要跟我講個人的身份,可是你為什麼要指名道姓台灣民眾黨呢?我跟你講,我膝掌你起碎,身在台灣,只為台灣鬼,那你為什麼要罵台灣民眾黨是中國鬼呢?你的定義是什麼? |
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因為在前一天啊 這個台灣民眾黨有到鳳山那鳳山那邊有人去抗議那抗議的時候舉的這個牌子我覺得這個牌子呢 我覺得對於有一些啊不是指貴長 有一些人呢 他們的一個請貢應該是要做出來說明你口才很好 但是你不要換位置 要換了腦袋 |
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這幾天你為對集會遊行法你過去在立法委員的時候你什麼態度你現在當為一個主管的時候你什麼態度這個我也不要跟你辯論你有你的看法換一個位置換一個腦袋無所謂但是你是政黨的主管機關指名道姓個人我不批評但是你指名台灣民眾黨 |
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那就包括我在內可是我告訴你我就是台灣人我就是台灣鬼你幹嘛罵我中國鬼什麼意思所以我跟你講部長我尊重你過去你在當立法委員你在當副市長你在當我們台北市的局長我都非常尊敬的 |
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但是你講台灣民眾黨吃台灣米是中國鬼這基本上這是一個恥辱是一個政黨的主管機關應該這樣講嗎是應該這樣嗎所以我不服氣我要對你抗議所以照這種規則我告訴你就應該要下台 院長 |
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我坦白跟你講沒有政黨的主管機關他是首長他是主管政黨那我們是中國鬼那你什麼鬼你告訴我你什麼鬼跟委員報告我跟你一樣吃台灣米做台灣粿 |
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是啊 那你為什麼要講我們台灣民眾黨是中國鬼咧所以我告訴你前言跟後語要對齁什麼前言跟後語 你還要再變對不起不對就不對但是我坦白跟你講 我一向 卓院長你很清楚我是對任何事情 我不會對人尤其我尊敬的人 我是禮讓三分 |
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那我也相信這不是卓院長要你講可是我也同意在這整個人潮洶湧的情況之下一定會有一種情緒高昂可是你是政黨的主管機關部長不可以這樣講你講個人是個人的事你不能現在又推你自己本身是代表個人不可以這樣 |
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言論自由我們尊重可是你不能整個黨都給人家罵下去這樣不好啦說實在我的墳墓我已經看好了就在台灣不會在中國這我很大膽的告訴你我也很大膽的跟卓院長你來做報告好 邱主委來我請問一下 |
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你有沒有發現台灣民眾黨在你們做兩岸政策的時候我們有阻擋你任何議案沒有 有沒有不要遺憾 有沒有台灣民眾黨有沒有阻擋你們任何的一個政策 有沒有 |
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目前法律案是還沒有但是預算案卻蠻遺憾的你不要再給我扯預算案預算案是這種東西是另外一個我跟你談的是一個政黨的有沒有阻擋你兩岸的問題有沒有有就有沒有就沒有有沒有報告委員我們提了很多的國安法相關的法律國安法我在程序委員會啦 |
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院長 我告訴你啦 你不要被底下的蒙騙啦我告訴你 提了只有兩案沒有通過 其他通通通過這兩案是到底立法委員跟村里長跟議員要到大陸去訪問的時候要跟主管機關報告 或者跟我立法院來報告只有黨這個我們希望是跟我立法院來報告立法委員跟立法院 |
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院報告這是順理存章所以說有黨啊不管什麼理由就是有黨啊我們認為這樣才是國家安全所必須的但是就是有黨啊這不是黨這是戰反我曾經提案人我跟他溝通你就改跟立法院來報告我們沒意見你可以去看看主張有些無關緊要有促進 |
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這國安的問題我跟你講我們都沒有黨喔我跟你講如果台灣民眾黨你們認為我們還是不理性的話我說實在的你找不到所以 |
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那個 邱主委 有就有 沒有就沒有我們是希望像這個立法院的社密人員應該跟行政部門來做通報 我們來做審查你是一個 該你的事 有就有 沒有就沒有我坦白講啦 我坦白講你知不知道 台灣民眾黨的立委還是多數被中共季節進入中國的 你知道嗎你知不知道啊 |
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我告訴你 我們跟民進黨的立法委員沒有兩樣還是被禁止進入中國所以我今天為什麼這麼氣概一定 將心比心啦 你會通過我了解但是我要分開 你也要了解你聽好不好 不能這樣亂講所以這一點 我坦白跟你講我要提供資訊給你我們還有很多人被禁止進入大陸連香港都不能去的所以這一點 |
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我想邱主委你特別要去了解一下好不好 |
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所以對於立法委員去到大陸 除了跟他院長了解之外主管機關才能夠掌握未來的人身安全這是一個非常普遍的要求而已啊 |
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所以這點變了 |
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沒有 院長 我不管是口誤或不管是細意那是另外一回事今天有機會跟你這樣對白我希望最政黨的價值性的批判當然要謹慎但是任何政黨對總統的批判也要非常的小心啊一定 你如果要去安撫那個領導的事情啦我特別跟你說來 接下來第二張請問一下嘛來 劉部長這些都是你們民進黨的人喔這些都是 |
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都是被我們國安單位調查 司法單位調查這是 請問一下這是台灣鬼或中國鬼你告訴我 |
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他已經接受了中國的價值觀所以他從...這個就是中國鬼啦沒有 他從最堅強的堡壘當中要來破壞這個堡壘這個就是他們的戰術所以他已經是台灣人接受了中國的價值觀我跟你講啦我尊重你 我不希望你一直去袒護這些我們要面對問題該辦就辦 而不要一辦數辦你恍而沒有去糾正你的格言 |
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你隔眼做任何事情你要概括承受的因為你是中華民國行政院最高所長所以你的隔眼講出話來你是要概括承受本來就不可以這樣的台灣鬼就是台灣鬼像這些 好 進行下一張 來 |
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好啦 一定 我不跟你吵架啦 時間有限我坦白跟你講 你們很奇怪這個主公會裡面 我跟你講這些警消主公會 我記得很清楚教師主公會也是這種想法但是最後教書沒有罷工錢 他只有勞動三權 |
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過得很好啊 也沒有罷工啊所以這些東西說實在的不要把它看成洪水猛獸所以啊 我們柯總召又說這個主張組工會的人就是中共同路人 |
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一定 這是我們獻華賦儀結社遣的一種但是至於錦霄因為他是公務人員要不要讓他們兼濟勞工之身份 |
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這個可以談 但是你們反對 一定 我坦白跟你講因為公務人員兼具勞工身份在台灣非常之多所以 確確實實 這個是可以談但是如何把它研磨 不能去用醜化的動作喔 這些警校就是中共同路人支持的就是 你如果要這樣的話 我跟你講喔上一屆 |
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二十幾個民進黨支持喔這一屆有十六個人喔裡面這種理論有七四十的理論說實在一定 這些人不就都要抓起來這不合理啦一句話 我們對警消同仁的尊敬跟支持跟我們對國軍弟兄的尊敬支持是一樣的只是警消人員對國家有特別權利義務關係我們必須要維持這種權利義務關係時間的問題啦 我要呼應你 |
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對於打詐的問題不要開玩笑現在國外非常猖獗以前是針對年輕人現在是中高齡所以這個問題資訊現在你們報案的專線良又不起有時候真的他要報案真的要統一報案專線 |
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這個才是真正要的一句話打詐確實要打但是打詐行為的結構已經在轉變大家最詬病的投資詐騙目前已經稍微有下降好 謝謝林郭辰維謝謝卓院長 各部會所長的備詢 謝謝 |