| IVOD_ID |
160403 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/160403 |
| 日期 |
2025-04-21 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-15-12 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期內政委員會第12次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
12 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期內政委員會第12次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-04-21T09:40:07+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-04-21T09:50:47+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:40 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/16e1d9e54b37d4c84306a5db65353208de1cdb79e21bd2990fed3d90e8b9dd2eb2b7e68c96004cff5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
王美惠 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:40:07 - 09:50:47 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-04-21T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期內政委員會第12次全體委員會議（事由：一、審查委員牛煦庭等17人擬具「行政區劃法草案」案。二、審查委員邱鎮軍等18人擬具「行政區劃法草案」案。【僅詢答及宣讀提案條文】） |
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這是我們這裡的補償 補償在這裡喔 在上禮拜 妳好 在上禮拜我們知道說 貴重的責任 去一個不應該自治的地方又有地方收到 去高興 但是我認為說補償做得很好 |
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你剛才說全部都是寒鬆的,不然在那裡擁護你,在那裡玩多久我覺得對你會越大,會越來越多因為我覺得一個地方,你要集會遊行或要做什麼,應該都要去申請 |
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國家有國家的法規啦 我覺得最近這半天來 我覺得大家想不去帶就不去帶像地檢署看了一輩子 還來 還派你們大小所以普天 我覺得說 你的 |
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做法我認為非常好,可以讓你更加健康所以在定禮拜拜時的時候,你的做法,我認為利用全部寒鬆的不過我的感覺是,你對於定禮拜時這樣做 |
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但是在這半年來 也有這樣的綜合 你是如何沒有看出這個全部來寒鬆來 補充你會的事情感謝委員的指導 我相信站在內政部的立場 就是支持我們的經濟事務他們針對這個一契遊行法裡面 會相關規定來辦理 |
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所以我今天也有針對這個部分就是說我們經濟署的經濟動力尤其在處理這種聚眾的部分他們要有那個修正有確實然後把所有的證據都收集齊全之後應該函送的或者應該傳喚的就按照集會遊行法的相關規定來辦理但是呢因為我站在一個這個就是 |
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督導那個警政的立場上面呢我就不針對個案來繼續發言因為他現在已經進入偵查的程序所以我覺得這樣子會比較好那過去好幾年當中呢我們在有關集會遊行的部分呢都有特別討論到禁制區 |
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這個禁制區除了說譬如說是我們的這個中央政府所在地的要塞之外那還有軍事要塞那同時呢我們希望增加的像包括像這個這個法院或者是這個醫院因為醫院有很多這種聚眾滋擾的事件我們認為的不適合因為醫院是一個看病的地方不是來吵架的地方 |
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那希望在禁制區裡面大家都能夠遵守那這個有遵守的話大家有這個遵守的規範的話呢那警方是站在雙方能夠平和來處理有關任何的爭議事件呢這是我們的初衷而不是為了要傳喚某人或是為了要做這個政治性上面的一個宣示我想這個都不是集會遊行法希望大家能夠本於原來的初衷把自己要表達的立場講得非常清楚之後但是就是要遵守集會遊行的規則 |
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因為保證在這裏 我覺得很好笑啦 一個收到沒去收這個款 又揮揮三尺沒這樣 給北省看出他的做法 我覺得他的年紀 實在很差勁 |
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所以在國家有國家的法律所以一定要有法律的人要讓他知道有法律的問題所以在這個規定當中我也覺得補充這個處理方法我覺得可以更多 |
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會比較好 不會對你說話會越來越嚴重 我覺得一個社會一直對你如果我們不講道理 互翻互補的時候 這個國家會害來 普通 剛才你說到 我們的行政化分化 你們一定 |
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日本的經濟嘛,在過去以來有八十一年到現在,尤其我們的大中共,也希望可以有這個做法,但是裡面的做法,有人提案 |
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裡面有稍微不講,稍微不講的時候,也要問補充,以我自己來講,我自己,我也不問我的資源,我的零考數,我的生活圈,我自己,如果說,我們一張臉 |
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追尋是不是可以未來加二次民用是不是可以未來加二次我也愿意這樣因為加二次在幾十年前跟新疆爬爬升級要不然我們中央的政府跟我們說你升級要不然在這裡你看不是跟法輪功升級就好了 |
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是長久以來 要怎麼阻止他 你看他年紀和身體又有差喔再來這個過程中 你的行政會看文化 也會牽涉到 |
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財政手法,這是都一樣在這裡的做法本身是要跟你說,這是非常大件事,不是說啊,青菜蓋蓋就好了每一項都要去了解去做,尤其是你認為本身說這樣 |
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如果問政府的時候,他不要說道啦,我自己買那些零銷售,可以主管那些,跟財政可以再分那些的時候,是不是可以來補充,你回答一下感謝委員的關心,委員本來就是自己非常認真發表的民意代表我也要向委員報告,行政區劃法,我們是希望可以可長可久啦 |
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不是因為今天這個地方有一個栗多,我每天都擠一擠在那裡,有栗差的話,大家都趕快遠離所以為什麼會碰到這個困難,就是說大家都想要好的,肥肉的部分,骨頭的部分,肌肉的部分就丟給別人 |
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但是呢 又希望好的部分留下來 譬如說我剛剛有提到我們不管是地方制度 或者是行政區的話在處理縣市合併的時候 大家都希望好的合併那上一次有人在提到 譬如說這個某一個縣市就是有很多科學園區的地方 要不要合併這最重要 現在科學園區的地方 大家都不會走出來 |
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對 但是這個部分跟行政區化的這個規劃比較沒有相關可是科學園區是會改變的所以我們很希望說它是大家一起來討論就是說這個公平的一個遊戲規則怎麼樣制定出來那可以看得出來在都會區的民意代表跟在非都會區的民意代表的想像是不一樣的 |
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或者是說我剛剛所提的你剛才有說到的財政收支的微分的部分大家都希望說不好的先維持下去但是錢要留下來這個部分財政收支劃分法如果針對我們行政區劃的處理的話它一定會有不同的想像 |
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我們當然尊重以財政部為主的部分那再來地方制度就是剛剛所提的一般來講如果縣市要合併是地方縣市政府跟地方縣市議會兩個通過他們內部的一個程序如果同意以後可以報中央或是中央可以直接指定但是中央到目前為止通常沒有會直接指定因為這樣子不好沒有這個尊重民意但是地方要上來的時候呢這個四個地方縣市政府跟縣市議會意見就不一樣 |
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如果四個地方的縣市的意見不一樣因為通常大的一定會零價小的多的一定會零價少的少的不同意多的一定同意然後小的不同意大的一定同意之類的 |
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那這個我們就很難做決定所以通常都會卡住那這個跟這個不管是人的關係或者是生活圈的概念或者是財政的概念呢其實它是一個比較複雜的機制啦但是到目前為止呢雖然很多不管是在朝或在野的很多立委都提出來這樣子的一個爭議但是這個爭議呢對行政機關來講要把它收攏或者是一個有凝聚這個共識確實不容易 |
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就好像說前兩年我們提出說行政區劃法乾脆就改成行政區劃程序法其實還沒有送到行政院就有人反對了所以我們也會碰到這方面的困擾柏庭在這本縣要跟你說很艱苦的事情我們也要去做在這個你剛才說的跟本縣所想的都一樣我們勿忙 |
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花粉期的電池是更加發展、更加好、資源更加多不是花粉期的時候變成越增加越少、越沒有資源所以我們在這個花粉的時候,也非常重要我們希望中央把電池用心用好,是要讓電池沒有發展的 |
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可以越發展 交通越方便啦不要為了說 跟越沒人愛 比不愛 同樣的議員在這裡跟吃肉的都被撞到那裡去 這樣也不好 所以我問補充 能不能說 本身自己探討的問題未來我們要怎麼做的時候 一定要哪裏 能夠合平均的啦 不能差太多啦 以上 |
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哦 |