| IVOD_ID |
160354 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/160354 |
| 日期 |
2025-04-16 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-23-7 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期交通委員會第7次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
7 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
23 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
交通委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期交通委員會第7次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-04-16T11:46:03+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-04-16T11:58:45+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:12:42 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/c2d17dc46794b9a4f366c91ba02c1d40f316f6363e53358e75aa7aeb25548b494fa46b23f99a9e655ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
陳雪生 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:46:03 - 11:58:45 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-04-16T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期交通委員會第7次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請交通部部長陳世凱列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。
二、邀請交通部部長、經濟部次長、外交部次長、財政部次長、行政院經貿談判辦公室就「美國課徵對等關稅對我國交通公私部門之衝擊與因應」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
【4月16日及17日二天一次會】） |
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好,謝謝召委,你不是衝著我來吧?不是啊?剛才都沒講好,是不是請航空警察局廖局長廖局長我為什麼找廖局長你知道嗎?他是我民國78年,我在士林分局服務,他是我的同事 |
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廖長你到現在是從警察署主任秘書調過來嗎?是你到航空警察局服務有沒有什麼困難?包圍沒有困難沒有?各位都非常支持,謝謝恭喜你謝謝我也拜託我們民航局何局長還有機場公司、董事長能夠多關照有什麼事情盡量配合協調好不好?是你請回沒事謝謝委員 |
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那個是不是請我們交通部陳部長陳部長還有那個談判的副總代表閻小姐謝謝副長還有副代表因為時間的關係我們現在川普在大刀關稅砍向世界據我了解我們 |
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總出口大概是4750億美元,我們台灣那美國部分有1113,然後進口是464億美元,出超大概739億副代表你有沒有注意到?我們只注意到美國,有沒有注意到大陸? |
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大陸的出口是1500,我們對他出口是1506億美元進口是806億美元,出售700億跟美國相距不遠 |
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美國的大刀子像我們的時候你要注意到尤其現在台灣在反中等等跟美親近是好事不是壞事但是要注意到我們在大陸的貿易我們等於他們也是用最惠國待遇給我們所以你不要觸怒了中共這一點要小心我女婿是美國人 |
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回來跟我聊天,我說你對川普這個人印象怎麼樣?他說還不錯啊,我說什麼還不錯?我就有點生氣了他說你曉得嗎?川普最大的優點,就是善變還有說謊他用善變跟說謊,你看他全世界砍過去以後,他穩賺不賠韓國瑜院長講說 |
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貨出去錢進來人進來錢進來那他不是他今天嘴巴一喊你看所有的股票全部都漲價了所以你在談判的時候你注意到你在談判小組裡面也要分析一下大陸的反應尤其也很重要所以我想好你請回沒事部長小山東現在大概只有來了一千多個人兩千個人 |
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現在我再請問你一次,我們希望大陸的鄉親到馬祖金門或是到台灣來觀光,歡迎還是不歡迎?沒有政治前提之下都歡迎為什麼有一些媒體反對,很像說大陸人來對我們沒安好心? |
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我們在官方的立場是歡迎他們來沒有政治前提之下所以我在上一次質詢的時候,曾經問到部長跟各部會長,少一點刁難、少一點為難到金門馬祖,全部那個部隊也沒幾個人 |
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用漁船就上來,我不是說自己給自己漏氣啦我沒有自己給自己漏氣這一方面是不是請部長多跟他們講一下嘛是不是你不要把老共講得那麼糟糕嘛是不是一直反中現在金門馬祖我們很可憐你看陳玉珍委員講的自貿區自貿港口台灣很多啊是不是,台中、高雄、基隆、花蓮全部都是啊 |
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金門那個自保區港口馬上就變成洗產地,那台灣那邊不是洗產地嗎?所以我們在觀念上,我跟你做個溝通好不好?是再跟你談一下那個觀光的部分 |
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是不是請鄒書長上來,再加強一下好不好我們齊碧那邊你看有很多廁所什麼髒的臭的不得了,尤其五月份我們觀光機來了,請幫忙一下請幫忙一下,那邊再加強一下,請風景管理處幫忙一下好不好好,那我想鄒書長你請回好不好,是不是請何素冰局長 |
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這邊要談機場改建,馬祖飛高雄航線馬祖飛高雄航線,謝謝部長幫忙承認我們這一個航線非常不容易在交通部施壓、民航局施壓、華信我也謝謝我們中華航空公司總經理、高董事長 |
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謝謝啦但是我們馬祖老闆質疑啊為什麼只飛一班何局長為什麼只飛一班能不能說明一下 |
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我想高雄南竿其實歷經了很長久的一段的經過那這個航線因為早期來講他當然有他的過去的歷史那現在重新飛航一週一班我們想是從之前有包機那我們也培養了一段時間那現在要轉成定班的話那他就要有固定的旅客人數 |
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所以我們就華信這邊就規劃了每週先用一班而且他是排在週五那週五跟週六日是可以串起來所以而且基本上在南竿這邊也有台北南竿的航線所以我想這樣整體來看我們先用每週一班來飛然後培養客源到一個程度我們再看市場狀況現在也就是說客流量不太穩定嘛對沒錯當然中華航空公司的子公司華信啊 |
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他是一個股份有限公司,他的財務是獨立自主的,債商延商嘛,他沒有錢賺我想不要說部長,院長你去給他施壓也沒有用啊,是不是?他的股東會同意嗎?不會同意嘛所以先非一般,因為我也跟高董事長也談過這個事情 |
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他非常非常的為難,而且在票價部分我知道這次民航局把他壓低了不過如果流量正常的話,希望你們能夠賺到錢我們希望你這個做生意就是要賺錢嘛是不是沙頭生意有人做,虧本生意沒人做啊所以高董這邊您看看好不好如果一般我們在客流量非常穩定非常好這個最加費的誰?是我們國軍的防護服的人員這阿兵哥他們說回家的路太遠 |
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好不容易現場議長我拜訪了華信拜訪了很多次然後那時候高董事長也是華信的董事長 |
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郭東很多次他在謝董事長一直在逼他沒辦法的情況之下所以這個飛機飛了所以我希望能夠順利成功希望客人量夠的話能夠再多一班好不好尤其你飛機可以的話好謝謝高董事長你請回 |
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何警長這邊還有上一次我問你北竿機場的停車場滾動式檢討你一個月現在開始啟動滾動式檢討了沒有請說明有關北竿機場的停車的使用情形我們現在先收集資料因為他從收費其實也才在三月這個三月二月三月中才開始那所以說基本上現在來講其實時間還不是太長 |
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那當然之前委員有說明過就是說鄉親有一些反應希望在這個停車費率等等那當然這個整個我們還是需要收集一段時間的資料是啊我是說不要讓他成為文子館嘛我想對審計部我們也可以做一個交代了嘛我知道如果客人在裡面停車如果收費太低的話審計部會有意見我知道 |
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那這個行政程序我們已經走完了,我是說希望能不能幫忙一下好不好,這個能夠做滾動式檢討這個部分我們會再來滾動檢討好另外,主席你請坐北竿機場興建,我上次問過北竿機場興建的騎乘已經啟動了嘛那航站的人員,你們北竿的航空站的人員不會撤吧 |
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還有利隆,因為航站裡面包含消防班,還有利隆航空公司的人員因為我們現在要希望建議邊建邊飛,是不是這樣? |
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跟委員報告因為我們現在這個案子已經跟港公司這邊合作前面的維提、造地等等今年港公司這邊會來進行招標那招標完之後會做細設那細設的時間大概需要兩年多的時間所以真正的施工會落在118年那在這個細設的階段我們也會來評估整個機場的運作因為基本上它還是就是說它在細設要兩年喔 |
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對 今年因為他比較複雜然後連施工一共七年嘛是不是沒有 施工是七年施工七年那我們如果邊飛邊建邊飛邊建這個就是尤其圍堤的部分 城鄉的部分這些不影響飛行安全的情況之下民航局往這個方向走好不好可行性你們現在要做未雨綢繆的評估好不好 |
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要謝謝委員啦之前有多次的提醒在這個部分那這部分我們會再細說董事長你說明一下好不好我們港公司董事長跟委員報告一下目前這個工程我們在準備相關的前置作業那因為這個這個機場的話可能危體兆入的話可能有一些要鑽灘要什麼那個要把它做好免得說到時候做好以後會有呈現的問題所以相關的一些還有呈現的問題嘛因為他跑道的鋪面 |
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我想時間應該兩年足夠了我們中正機場、松山機場碰面的速度應該很快你盡量朝著一邊飛一邊那個因為有一些有心人士我跟你講馬祖發生兩次空難我弟弟五口全部罹難前縣長楊孫生縣長也是另外一次空難裡面降落在海上所以這個機場一定要改建 部長是不是一定要改建 |
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你不要等出了事,出了事再來做就來不及了這已經在做了你看我們全國的機場只有馬祖的兩座機場是個應該算是危險的機場危險的機場,它不是一個編制類的機場所以這個機場勢在必行好不好這個拜託部長還有我們局長、港公司這邊我們來共同努力因為他們講說 |
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這個機場蓋了以後,有一些人員像消防班有一些人現在大家都希望錢多勢少離家近還有渡海到南竿去上班非常不方便所以我想借這個機會告訴我們鄉親沒有這個問題當然晚上夜間施工可能會造成一些噪音的問題等等這個我希望在下次交通委員會到馬祖考察的時候已經排定在五月十幾號 |
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拜託局長這一些配套你請幕僚人員趕快做出來我們到那邊一併跟我們鄉親來說明好不好好謝謝部長謝謝我們董事長還有局長謝謝 |