| IVOD_ID |
160333 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/160333 |
| 日期 |
2025-04-17 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-15-11 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期內政委員會第11次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
11 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期內政委員會第11次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-04-17T10:55:49+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-04-17T11:04:46+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:57 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/c2d17dc46794b9a498688ed273b8ef268e6452bc7faa753875aa7aeb25548b4945ac82267c343f1a5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
徐欣瑩 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:55:49 - 11:04:46 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-04-17T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期內政委員會第11次全體委員會議（事由：邀請海洋委員會主任委員率同所屬列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。） |
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謝謝主席我們請主委好請主委 |
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主委好管主委好今天我想很多委員都很關心我們這個海底電纜的安全的問題那當然您也有表達這個海委會是執法單位執法單位因為海底電纜它這個涵蓋的這個部會還有層面都很廣包含國安包含通訊那您也有提到說 |
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已經有在做跨部會的整合那請問跨部會的會議是誰來主導 誰是那個主責的看項目 如果是所有的法令規章各部會負責的部分都必須要修的部分那就是政委會主持我們負責法制的政委會主持 |
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那像譬如說事發一開始的時候是我們海委會來招集那看看項目那譬如說下個禮拜要開的修電纜是什麼修電纜的話電纜壞了 |
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電纜壞了那個技術面我們大概就是中華電信他們跟速發部去處理那譬如說下禮拜要開的是有關於海纜涉及的海域我們到底要公告多大範圍作為禁錨的區域那這個就由交通部 |
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所以那個區域反而是交通部不是海委會沒有我們是執法我們就都不是權責機關你們是按照他們規定區域多少我們提供修法的需求然後是主管部門必須去修區域他們規定了以後你們按照那個區域來做執法所以這一次就是今年二月的這個紅太五八號的事件那您也說你們監控了三天大概三十幾個小時 |
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那现在最大问题不止三天不止有啦有啦因为它跨中间第一天后段跟第三天前段那所以你们因为很明显的就是等于是监控长达三十几个小时然后又广播七次然后都不听对都不听然后我们反而都已经监控了还让海揽被破坏所以这个就凸显出 |
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我們到現場以後才破壞的警告了而且監控了但是沒辦法把他驅離沒有辦法去驅離取締就是因為法令不足所以我們很希望要重判他真的是不可原諒七次耶 |
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對對對那通常警告不從我們應該就可能可以驅離甚至取締為什麼不做這個當時海象的問題是海象的問題就算有法令也還是沒辦法取締跟驅離可是我們是實在是奮勇泛濫因為海象 |
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有时候我们硬顶都得顶出去但是连顶都顶不出去的时候这个就变成我们要监控本席想了解的是就算法令完备了可以取缔可以驱离也有可能因为海象我们没办法吗 |
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我們基本上最近的這些案例我們基本上有的是事先會到譬如說鴻泰那另外譬如說順心99是我們追到那追到的案子不只順心99我們大多數都會追到那現在主要本席就想建議有沒有在考慮好像有蠻多學者專家有在考慮是不是要有一個海底電纜的安全專法 |
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那來統合整個的海事電信國安以及基礎設施那也包含了你們他們這個違法的時候我們是要驅離取締因為我覺得太誇張了廣播七次然後監控三十幾個小時最後我們的電纜還是被破壞了那當然我們都覺得那個船隻很故意而且很有問題 |
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您重判我們也認同但是我們自己的專法在哪裡這是一個問題第二個本席想要問我們都已經看到它一直在那個區塊然後我們自己也知道底下可能有海嵐 |
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有電纜其實他自己也知道因為他那個海圖會顯示所以我們給人家知道那重點就是說我們有沒有水下無人機可以去確認譬如說他一直在那裡我也不知道他有沒有破壞那我們有沒有水下無人機 |
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我們目前沒有我們目前的我們的大調查船有附帶一個水下無人載具將來可以調用它來用那這個東西最近行政院核定要讓我們買了但是還沒有製作出規格還沒有招商還沒有發包這個是我們調查船附帶有那到時候調查船就可以用來做這個事所以 |
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那海巡還沒有 海巡還沒有 但是國海院有我剛剛講的這個是我們的國海院所以我海委會呢 已經有一個水下無人載具同樣都是海委會的而且他本來調查船這種時候也可以出去那所以這個海底電纜的安全專法有沒有考慮設專法 |
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目前因為權責不在我們所以我這裡沒有在考慮這個方向我沒有提專法為什麼呢因為它其實涉及的都是非常專業的各部會的專業所以我們一方面有電信管理法那本席請教你海底電究竟是誰管轄誰是管轄者 |
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她歸NCC跟速發部的部分比較多所以這個必須要明確明確還有誰可以進行相關的修正但是航安的部分是交通部那我們是執法我們都執法所以我們還是希望啦我們海底電可以說是我們台灣通訊的生命線千萬不能讓這個生命線長長斷長長斷這就是國安危機 |
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接著還有一點點時間本席想要請教去年本席也有請教過主委 |
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我們有在規劃無人機是空中的無人機那我們也看到原本預計的這個114年度就是今年要驗收的無人機突然出問題廠商無法履約你們又重新開始所以本席想請教你這個無人機第二代的無人機計劃 |
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經費是兩億多嘛 兩億一千八百三十五萬七千元那現在你重新修正計畫 你的經費的部分我請署長說明好不好前面執行了一兩年 結果最後這個無疾而終因為我們要求的那個功能 它最後做不出來那我請署長說明好不好 |
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這邊跟委員說明那我們那個計劃是112年開始到114要開始交今年要交市價那我們在整個測試的過程當中因為他沒有辦法達到我們想要需求滯空兩小時的這個時間所以這個部分經過所有的法律程序以後怎麼辦因為這個合約最後他沒辦法履約最後解約那按照解約的話我們經費是怎麼樣 |
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原本兩億多嘛現在那廠商拿多少最後這個解約以後因為他還要做相關的也還沒提出來你們還不知道我們知道我們現在要重新起案的也是兩億多只有差了將近五千萬左右 |
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所以用原來的錢再補五千萬然後我們重新四月嘛我看你們四月提修正計畫好那我們當然我們對就是海委會我們海巡這裡我們的配備我們一定支持那當然我們也希望這個國家的計畫我們不希望一再的落空所以這個部分我們大家一起加油好謝謝 |
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好,我們請 |