| IVOD_ID |
160309 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/160309 |
| 日期 |
2025-04-17 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-23-7 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期交通委員會第7次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
7 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
23 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
交通委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期交通委員會第7次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-04-17T10:28:07+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-04-17T10:37:38+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:31 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/c2d17dc46794b9a45db6d4335f6acb36cf11904fa481b7b675aa7aeb25548b498a3d5adc657703f85ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
許智傑 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:28:07 - 10:37:38 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-04-17T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期交通委員會第7次全體委員會議（事由：邀請國家運輸安全調查委員會主任委員林信得列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。
【4月16日及17日二天一次會】） |
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好 謝謝主席 我們請主委好 主委 林主委好 委員好主委好我剛才剛才心存說到氣到要死其實主委我覺得運動會應該要講很清楚就是說哪一些是你工作要調查直接的有一些是你間接的但是直接的要列入你的 |
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撈出來的主題間接的你要不要撈出來你的主題那到底分際在哪裡你要告訴我清楚甚至就是說到底多嚴重啦因為這防範未然有時候你不知道嚴重到什麼程度所以比如說你以行動隊員來講全世界各國現在的國際標準是什麼你指揮對於行動隊員上飛機的這個國際標準是什麼 主委知道嗎 |
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我們手上沒有這個資料都沒人知道 有人知道嗎 原來會有人知道你要再報告一下 |
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報告委員那個目前來講在IKEA上面他有一些這樣子的質疑但是並沒有他最主要是說對於飛機上的使用及充電這兩個是禁止的其他關於怎麼樣置放並沒有一個國際上的一個標準所以是禁止使用行動電源禁止使用就是禁止但是攜帶 |
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他國際沒有規範所以你就講清楚嘛那主委您知道意思嗎那就是說將來這個行動電源上飛機是要國際規範還是台灣自己要不要規範這個部分你們要研究一下嘛 |
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對 臺灣應該要有自己的綠定啦 應該要有啦對每個國家的國情不要假設國際政治有規定 它也是一個最低要求標準而已啊對 所以剛剛新竹委員問的說你們要這樣子確明確的回答 懂我意思嗎你這樣子呼 這樣子回答齁 不怪那天都會想起 你知道嗎 |
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你還不放入你的調查範圍之內現在就要等那個真的收起來要真的回紀錄下來要真的很多人過生日這樣才來調查主委你懂我意思嗎我覺得你將來可能這個部分回答要精準一點是 謝謝我舉個例子事實上有一些做得好的要謝謝你們你們的那個 |
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報告裡面的第二點有講到辦理具先進駕駛輔助系統之電動車輛之調查這個其實本席要求過很多次那看到你們有做我覺得也還蠻高興的啦就是說以前我們看到那個自駕車車禍雖然自駕車車禍死亡人數不足3人但是呢以前你們是死亡人數超過3人才會啟動調查 |
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那我現在要求就是之前就要求說你自駕車因為它不只是一般的車輛而已它可能還有一些電腦系統那有一些網路通訊等等的問題所以這個部分你們現在有進入調查我是覺得應該還是給你們肯定啦有做的要額外 沒做的要檢討 |
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所以這點也要跟你們討論一下 謝謝你們不過呢 這個還是有所不足就是說這個法規你們可以看到自駕車它分了六等級那現在我們台灣做到的應該是到二就是駕駛它有一些自己可以自控但是還是要有人駕駛三 |
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Level 3系統有辨識環境能力駕駛適當干涉這個現在台灣有沒有沒有沒有台灣現在頂多是2.5而已那上面高雄港有港自駕車這是算Level幾你說高雄港有港自駕車 |
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這個我...你不曉得?所以你不是說有專案在研究嗎?研究到連郭榮,現在開始做了不知道?高雄這個遊港,這叫做我來依照這個判斷,我覺得他應該是Level 4了因為他在港區內,真的是無人駕駛你只要上去,他就帶你遊港 |
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所以我是覺得你們的即時訊息可能要再載入一下要比較敏感一點而且要去了解就是說到底這個自駕系統你們去研究甚至有些那個什麼 |
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在地下室召喚的比如說你停車停在地下室那有些人每次都找不到車他就按一下B他就開過來了這個其實是蠻方便的但是現在這個特斯拉有在用對不對對用的結果有沒有安全疑慮那如果對於這個網路通訊演算有一些網路的斷網的時候那他的安全到底有沒有疑慮 |
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那你現在這個部分不知道有沒有研究我們還抱歉還沒有這方面的研究所以我看你們的調查你們是調查報告可以給我看一下嗎那個你們調查之後的報告看你們調查哪一些讓我知道一下好不好好好那再來就是說主委其實我跟各位有做要額外沒有做要檢討之前我們看過那個原子能委員會那個我也讓主委看過嘛 |
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其實科普教育包括運安、飛安、交通安全的教育很重要其實那個合約所之前我跟他要求人們也做原子能、科技、科普等你看檔案很好也對人民很多一線的學習跟直接的教育有很大的功用那我們來看我們自己的 |
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我們自己當時主委都有答應我就是我在112年113年4月113年6月主委都認為說這個中藥那要辦而且會跟交通部跟台鐵一起辦 |
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現在你給我答應,還沒辦?去年有辦,去年年底在高雄有辦我們也發了一系列的宣導活動或者是研討會來教育活動譬如說我們還特別到福原大學去宣導航空教育安全海航大學我也有去 |
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有六場座談跟研討會那這個是不是有機會像那個我們看後面那個雲子能委會他們辦的 |
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所以它這個是就是對社會比較普及的教育啦就類似科普教育這樣子啦那你那個當然是有對象的有做我們也是覺得還不錯啦有進步我們就是先鼓勵嘛後面還有什麼有機會再發展進步的空間像原子能科技科普展這樣子類似的這樣子的活動我們有機會來辦嗎 |
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我們可以研究來辦啦這個其實是這個方向是對的還不錯啦是是所以這樣主委有承諾來辦沒問題啦沒問題啦希望說我們可以照主委的承諾齁能夠看到對民間更多你包括普悠瑪啦 |
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包括太魯閣啦他這發生到底是什麼情形我們調查他又是怎樣那你比如說你在不同的車廂如果真的有什麼狀況有什麼應變措施有機會減少生命的安全的維護這個部分其實都有一些算是科普教育可以去指導的 |
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那包括鐵路局他的慶祝黃豆 事實上我覺得有時候我們不能說今日公祭明日旺祭就是說今天普悠瑪跟太魯閣這個事情在我們印象當中真的都是有很大的傷亡那像這個部分是不是像鐵路局有辦活動之外運動會是不是也可以跟鐵路局一起類似這樣子的一個宣導也讓人民記得這樣子一個傷痛那現在國家是不是已經 |
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運安跟鐵路局是不是已經改善將來這個部分的疑慮安全可以沒有安全的疑慮可以將來的行車都可以安全這個部分是不是主委也一併來思考就是說跟鐵路局你們把這個成果總是要讓大家知道一下好不好 |
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我們可以把 變成一個鐵道安全的議題然後 把他倒進酒來辦這樣好不好我是希望說 這樣喔 真的我們要看到未來 這個情形不要再發生啦是 謝謝所以最重要 我們運安就是你們處理事故之外以後事故不再發生 這是我們最大的目的嘛是 |
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所以希望說這個部分那主委就可以跟鐵路局那一起像這個一個know-how的一個整理然後讓呈現給人民知道我想這個也相當的重要好不好這個就主委也找時間再繼續來辦理好不好好 謝謝 謝謝委員長 |