| IVOD_ID |
160308 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/160308 |
| 日期 |
2025-04-17 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-23-7 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期交通委員會第7次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
7 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
23 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
交通委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期交通委員會第7次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-04-17T10:17:30+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-04-17T10:27:47+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:17 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/c2d17dc46794b9a47e79c65403f7ed5ccf11904fa481b7b675aa7aeb25548b49e744949ebbc1455f5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
何欣純 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:17:30 - 10:27:47 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-04-17T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期交通委員會第7次全體委員會議（事由：邀請國家運輸安全調查委員會主任委員林信得列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。
【4月16日及17日二天一次會】） |
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主委好今天早上很多委員都在關心電動車的電池的問題那你們說正在調查中因為有幾件事故已經出現了那我就要問接著也是電池的問題行動電源 |
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我們看到已經不管是國內來國內在庫航飛往新加坡的時候他在112的1月11號有一個新聞通報新聞稿那確實呢行動電源一過熱起火機艙內煙霧瀰漫他發生了什麼行動電源起火那有沒有影響飛安 |
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主委你認為有沒有影響飛安當然有影響飛安但是你們呢在你們根據你們有通報你們要通報你們之後事故調查了之後你們有回本案非屬重大運輸事故非本會調查範圍好我尊重在那一次酷航的這一個事件裡面沒有造成重大的運輸事故但是我接著要跟主委 |
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提醒飛機上的行動電源起火不是只有國內的這個酷航一個案子國際上的案例頻傳釜山航空在2025年的1月28號 |
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造成整個飛機的前半段機艙燒毀你看看連機艙的頂部通通都燒毀那在2025的3月21號香港航空也是經傳行李架起火原來行李架上裡面行李裡面有行動電源他的這個行李架的上面的這個空間你看也是燒成這個樣子 |
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在下一頁我們雖然看到國際的規範裡面各航空公司在飛機上已經禁用行動電源但是我看到一件又一件的事故發生我就盤點了一下我們現在各個航空公司裡面雖然在航程當中 |
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航班當中全程禁止使用跟充電行動電源但是放置的位置有沒有建議有沒有指引 沒有中華航空只是建議還避免放在位置上方的行李櫃長榮航空沒有明確的規範 |
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新宇航空只建議你要隨身攜帶並放置妥當也沒有規範要放在哪裡比較好台灣虎航也沒有明確規範華信航空建議不要將行動電源放置在座位上方的行李櫃利用航空請隨身攜帶也希望不要放在座椅上方的置物櫃放在哪裡是一個重點 |
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行動電源之所以會常常在自然也好或者是在飛航的期間也好有沒有發生任何事故的可能性這個都是我們必須要放在心上也希望政府能夠有明確的指引告訴大家我們在坐飛機的時候不容許有一絲一絲的不安全性不容許有一絲絲的風險尤其在飛機上我想主委你同意我的說法吧 |
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同意嗎同意同意這個我想這個越來越複雜那個越來越複雜民航局應該要找他們來靠要綠定清楚 |
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民航局說他們遵守國際規範啊那國際規範之外呢還是發生事故那我們有沒有更主動明確的去做一個安全指引我要告訴你喔主委你不要告訴我這不是你的事喔你現在一口就說那是民航局的事民航局有事沒事確實他也是他的業務主管他要做那你運安會的高度你們是獨立調查單位 |
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4月13號在我們台灣的高鐵也發生了行動電源起火高鐵有通報嗎沒有通報沒有嘛沒有通報那很好很好的是什麼你知道嗎還好不幸中的萬幸是沒有發生什麼問題事故就是所謂的這個行李雖然著火冒煙車廂的這個煙霧的偵測被偵測到了 |
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大小但是呢我們有這個旅客來協助滅火器有成功的滅火所以呢那列車長也第一時間有疏散那我相信第一個交通運具裡面的安全問題是屬於我們運安會可不可以做的我告訴你主委你在你的職長裡面 |
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運輸事故的趨勢分析運輸安全的改善建議之追蹤以及運輸安全的專案研究這個在你的運安會的執掌這個第二條規定的清清楚楚 |
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那你越南會不能被動的有重大事故發生的時候我才要來調查我們國人更希望的是什麼當你注意到這些影響到運輸過程中的安全有這樣子系列性的不斷發生的事件的時候如果有這樣的趨勢 |
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那我們能不能主動的來做分析研究來提供一個安全指引主委可不可以謝謝委員你的意見跟我們的做法是一致的我到現在還沒看到啊我們現在是這樣子我們所有的調查案子我們會撈出它的一些議題式的 |
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把他撈出來說這幾個案子有共同的系統性的問題那行動電源這個你說你有撈出來那行動電源你有立案來做一個分析研究嗎因為電源的火車它不是高鐵這個它不是屬於正線火災不是屬於重大運輸範圍裡面的應該要調查的範圍那好那你說高鐵不是好 |
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不幸中的萬幸沒有人受傷沒有擴大事故那我現在意思喔從飛航當中的行動電源的起火到高鐵裡面的行動電源起火你這一系列的事故你剛剛說嘛你要撈事件嘛撈數據嘛那這樣一系列的這個行動電源的起火了那你認為運安會要不要主動的去做立案分析研析然後有什麼樣的安全指引 |
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對 如果他進入我們運輸安全事務調查範圍內的時候就會去撈出來因為這幾個案子就是他有信不信的問題所以你現在跟我說的是我跟你講的這一系列的行動電源起火是跟你沒關係的 |
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像高鐵這個它是屬於鐵路行車規則裡面飛行航空當中的行動電源的放置問題呢這也是如果它涉及有延燒然後造成設備損害造成航空機損害的時候我剛剛給你看了那麼多照片不就是了嗎對對對但是這個還有一個界線 |
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什麼界限 藝人水利安會 奴隸機關是比較高規格的 這個呢 這個是一般的生活中的小事情 所以跟你藝人會沒有關係嗎他如果在客廂裡面他冒煙 可是他沒有燃燒啊主委 拜託你好不好 你這樣子回答讓人家沒辦法接受欸 |
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國人的安全難道會因為他只有冒煙沒有失火不是我是指是不是我們的立案是不是我們立案調查的範圍我是指這個不是說我們不關心我剛剛跟你講你的資料裡面不是只有立案調查啊你還有事故的趨勢的分析啊你還有安全改善建議啊你還可以有安全的專案研究啊 |
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沒有錯這個也是我們關注的這個範圍沒有錯那我剛剛就要提醒你啊行動電源會起火會自燃已經不是只有飛機上的問題而已連在高鐵也可能出現這個問題那剛剛很多委員都在關心電動車的電池的問題那表示我們所有陸海空裡面所有的電動的運具裡面的電池的問題行動電源的問題會不會 |
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造成我們的交通運具的運輸過程的危險那這樣子夠不夠可以成立一個專案來研究來告訴大家告訴國人說還有告訴所有的交通運具的所屬單位跟他們的從業人員我們碰到這些事情的時候該怎麼應應該怎麼處理該怎麼面對國人的安全是第一要緊的事 |
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主委對不對對嘛那你剛剛一開始回答是什麼意思啊不是我剛剛的意思是說他是不是屬於立案範圍裡面但是這個案子確實你的執掌又不是只有立案範圍才要去調查才做調查而已 |
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我們不能防範於未然嗎可以可以可以嘛是那我就告訴你已經一系列的事情都發生了行動電源電動車的電磁問題那你運安會可不可以主動的立案來做研究分析來給予安全指引這個有那麼難嗎不會啊我們會立一個案子來做來做持續分析趨勢分析 |
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主委啊 主委 你也好有擔當OK啦 OK啦好 最快什麼 多久的時間要成立我們一個月內把它整理出來然後看看我們未來的趨勢要怎麼就後續怎麼計畫做 好不好一個月內喔 謝謝好 謝謝 |