| IVOD_ID |
160304 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/160304 |
| 日期 |
2025-04-17 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-23-7 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期交通委員會第7次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
7 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
23 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
交通委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期交通委員會第7次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-04-17T09:28:23+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-04-17T09:38:52+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:29 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/c2d17dc46794b9a4cf83f77f75355c4ccf11904fa481b7b675aa7aeb25548b49ae5225588713dd165ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
林國成 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:28:23 - 09:38:52 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-04-17T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期交通委員會第7次全體委員會議（事由：邀請國家運輸安全調查委員會主任委員林信得列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。
【4月16日及17日二天一次會】） |
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好 謝謝主席我要請林主委請林信德主委何副主委請何慶生副主委陳委員 張委員 李委員還有姚主任秘書 林執行長 |
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陳天志委員 張文煥委員 李延年委員姚承安主任秘書 林佩達執行長好 主委我一向對我們貴單位我非常支持但是我會非常嚴謹的監督我非常在乎的 |
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就是領導團結的問題所以為什麼我也請三位委員副主委還有執行長還有主任秘書這一整個運安會裡面主導就是主委但是撫蔽的就是在座的幾位領導人所以我必須要跟主委還有在座幾位的重要幹部 |
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一定要提醒一句話團結就是力量所以我請幾位上來主要沒惡意而是呼籲要團結但是我必須要提醒一件事情我們這個單位 |
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是一個行政專業單位跟一般行政不一樣喔你們是專業單位喔為什麼你們的前嫌就是國家運輸安全調查委員會為什麼要掛國家 |
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是超越行政是超越任何一個部會而是什麼只要有國家兩制通常就是獨立行使單位所以我不希望你有政治力的介入這一點我想主委你有什麼看法我來快兩年我都沒有感覺有政治力的介入而且是獨立專業的好 |
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我本委員會我每一次在執行到處聽到就是我們不讓你解凍請問主委我們應安會解凍的東西送到立法院來了沒有我們已經準備好那行政院他會統籌辦理啊 |
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是統籌辦理 因為我也知道啦行政院不要你們個別送嘛要統一才送嘛實體下很多部會首長就跟我講他們也想要送啊過去傳統的東西只要委員會通過了以後大概就沒有問題啊當然因為這次的審查預算 我承認 |
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就殺到你們要害嘛 一個就是特資會 一個就是業務會嘛其實特資會是對你們傷的最嚴重但是這叫做監督啊 要提醒大家不是你們沒有錢就不能做事啊公務人員本來就是這樣啊 不是嗎 主委所以我還是要呼籲 |
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應安會該解凍的盡快解凍你送來我身為那個召委我都願意叫你們送的那我就感覺到很奇怪我們交通 |
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委員會裡面所有人我都呼籲他趕快送到現在 召委拜託你們送全世界找不到這樣欸你們為什麼一天到晚就是一定要什麼統一啊或什麼這個叫做什麼 政治力的介入 |
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這個立法院要你們解凍你們不解凍你們就只有一句話當初你們要我們解凍為什麼要當初要幫我們凍其實這本來就審查預算裡面的一個 |
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方法這解凍的問題就是你把問題說清楚講明白那就可以解凍就可以使用啊沒有3啊你們現在都混搖不清啊解凍跟3億算是不一樣的所以主委我為什麼要特別去提你不要有政治力的介入這個是我要呼籲你當然啦 |
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你這個單位雖然小單位但是權力之大可是你們都沒有應用 |
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該調查的還是要調查所以主委不要跟他們這跟大罷免無關啊該送的還是要送這是我以重心長特別啊給主委一個建議還有在台上的重要幹部你們不要以為你們是副主委就無權利你們不要以為你們是委員你們就無權利不是的 |
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應該要給主委適當的方式替他們分憂解勞這是最主要的一個問題不是嗎所以我還是希望啦主委解凍的問題盡快 |
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獨立單位有獨立單位的形式這個你們特別要去爭取啦好不好好來另外我還是要談啦主委我們的缺額在擴大人才流失是非常頭痛的 |
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因為這個單位啊我講快一點沒有這個基本概念是無華來這個單位的啦你這個不是一般公務人員隨隨便便調來那最起碼的話一定要有他的專業嘛不是航空專長就是公路啊或者車禍有一些問題所以主委為什麼現在切額擴大到底人補進來了沒有 |
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我們的缺額就是正常的人員流動像到目前為止近三年我們的人員流動有進有出大概是目前淨流出大概三個人 |
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還好啊還好是但是在我看來一點都不好對不對人眼流動會有流電會有流動因為你這個單位流動一個人你就要為以籌謀因為你們是專業一個單位 |
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你們這個人才是不好找的啦所以為什麼我把請這個在座幾位上來就是撫蔽你之外還有一點肯定你們這些都是專業那在我們這個底下這些組長也都是專業的哪一個不是專業的 |
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所以我還是要你不要把它當成這個流動力的問題就是你們業務的問題要特別去注意還有一點就是你們現在很奇怪你們提出來的建議跟你們提出來的這些改進措施來 主委 |
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那為什麼你們都不理你們為什麼沒有啊 我們我們這個改善協議的完成率越來越高而且這個被促進的單位他們如果有困難我們我們有幾個機制譬如說我們每三個月就會有一個計協調會議那每半年還會有一個檢討會議那今年的3月11號12號我們還特別加開市場會議好 那我請問一下台鐵為什麼你們就政這麼多項完成率會這麼低 |
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因為他需要很多時間對嘛所以我跟你講這個只要行政院長我坦白講啦你這個單位行政院長如果不支持你當然但是流布話嘛所以這些牽涉到安全的問題拜託主委要去爭取該監督的還是要監督該追蹤的還是要監督所以在這個部分我還是建議你們要提出來除了除了 |
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建議改善之外你們根本就沒有監督機制嘛所以我建議我們在座幾位回去稍微研究一下我雖然我雖然是提出改進但是我後面有氣無力啊我沒有法的依據去追蹤去要求他改進啊處處都要所屬單位長官去督促這個叫做間接的監督這個效力不好的 |
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要我們應安會有直接監督的力道所以我建議這個部分該修法的該修辦法或者該修法去把它放進去的這個是要特別這個特別我建議啦 |
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那最後我還是期待啦流動力的問題還有跟這些政治力的結合問題我還是希望主委最後我還是呼籲團結就是力量雖然我們是小單位但是我們的責任重大 |
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責任重大所以最後我給你建議的就是說你如果覺得後續監督改進的力道不足就要修改法令去把它放進去這樣的話可能在整個行政機關的效益會更好這樣的話也會達到我們應安會的一切 |
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保護所有的這些交通安全是有所幫助的主委這點我給你建議我希望你參考一下好不好 |