| IVOD_ID |
160275 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/160275 |
| 日期 |
2025-04-16 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-23-7 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期交通委員會第7次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
7 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
23 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
交通委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期交通委員會第7次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-04-16T12:50:27+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-04-16T12:57:13+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:06:46 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/f9d2e74df98279df649b979337ed29fef316f6363e53358e2021fb25ab74fd83306605202daef2345ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
黃珊珊 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:50:27 - 12:57:13 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-04-16T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期交通委員會第7次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請交通部部長陳世凱列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。
二、邀請交通部部長、經濟部次長、外交部次長、財政部次長、行政院經貿談判辦公室就「美國課徵對等關稅對我國交通公私部門之衝擊與因應」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
【4月16日及17日二天一次會】） |
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謝謝主席 我請部長還有觀光署好 陳部長 周署長是兩位早 我想剛剛大家都在討論到底川普的關稅政策會不會對台灣尤其是觀光造成什麼影響 |
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報告委員我這個影響到目前為止還看不太出來因為我們不是貨物啦所以重點是服務服務就變成是我們的強項了重點是觀光署設定今年要到一千萬那第一季看起來是目前推估是兩百一十萬所以部長年底一千萬有信心嗎 |
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報告委員我其實一直針對這個數字的部分我覺得重點是把台灣的觀光體質做好做好服務做好來了要覺得還想再來是沒有錯重點是觀光署還有台鐵現在都很認真的在推所謂的鐵道經濟鐵道觀光 |
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然後因為我也有很多國際友人問我來台灣要玩什麼我們就會推薦他去看去坐台鐵最新的作為鐵道觀光所以部長你知道現在鐵道觀光有多少的觀光列車你覺得狀況好不好目前看起來都還不錯還不錯 包含明日號 海豐 山蘭狀況都還不錯那4月3號那個明日號出軌是怎麼回事出軌的部分我請台鐵來回應所以狀況就是沒事 |
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我跟委員報告那一天的出軌主要是我們那個整木整木的部分因為那邊是木整所以管理看到明日後我們就會覺得我們的觀光會受到影響因為觀光客會看新聞會聽會問 |
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同樣的 部長我現在要跟你探討 我跟觀光署跟台鐵調資料我們這些觀光列車從來沒有統計過國內旅客跟國外旅客的區別 是嗎 |
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你知不知道有多少國外旅客來做相關的有嗎那為什麼你們回覆給我們說沒有咧國內外旅客有沒有區分有我們現在因為有委我們的觀光列車經營模式的委託是EU網那他們也都有統計國外旅客的比例沒有啊你10月25號才回我說沒有統計分沒有國內旅客跟國外旅客的區別這樣子是怎樣就是給我的資料都是錯的沒有我們總共的旅資有的話給我們資料第二個平日 |
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才是重點是外國觀光客來坐我們的觀光列車嘛因為國人就是假日去坐了嘛所以平日需要更多的國外觀光客第一你要知道是誰我的朋友從國外過來坐我請他去坐這個觀光列車他跟我講兩個缺點第一個是有部分幾乎沒有外語服務人員 |
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這件事情沒有外語服務人員目前為止觀光署台鐵是說這是營運商的問題部長啊這不會是營運商的問題這是你觀光署中華民國交通部我們要提供什麼樣的觀光列車這個不會是廠商的問題好嗎我們應該要讓國外旅客來台灣是我請他們去做結果他跟我說他看不懂中文他沒有任何的外語服務人員這是第一個問題第二個部分就是剛剛看到的就是啊 |
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老舊啦 我們的車看起來目前為止 林日浩將近他都要用兩個車頭來拉 是嗎部長知道嗎幾個車頭 這個我是不曉得他用兩個車頭來拉 為什麼因為他的車頭 從33年到45年 |
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的年紀都很大了部長我們如果說明日號是台灣最美的觀光列車它是台灣最棒的頂級的旅遊而且我們收費非常的貴但是我們提供的服務我感覺台鐵只是要做資產活化啦它沒有要做真正的頂級觀光啦也就是說這麼舊的東西管理上面我同意拿舊的廢棄物要拿來做 |
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我同意但是你可不可以做得好一點包委員我們之後會針對明日號的部分我們會換EMU不是只有明日號你現在所有都是拿舊車來改我們現在會拿E500的這個車頭新的車頭來做是第二個搭乘率剛剛講的搭乘率部長我看到新聞是說平均載客到九成 |
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有這麼好嗎你知道現在載客率多少嗎載客率我不清楚但我所知道的是他營運的狀況還不錯還不錯我現在跟你說環島直興載客率30%藍皮節優化60%明日號現在也掉到50% |
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只有一個最新最夯的海豐號大概有九成所以不要拿一個最好的狀況來欺騙交通部啦觀光署我希望觀光列車我們覺得很好鐵道迷都很想來台灣我們也希望他們來台灣看到是台灣優質的服務好的車廂好的服務可是現在看起來就是 |
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很舊然後我們做得很漂亮 收很貴的錢但是對他們來說會不會想再來 要想一下部長如果觀光經濟你現在還要成立什麼觀光研訓院這些東西不是只有去外面做大外宣啊東西不好人家不會再來啦要把職做好是 所以我希望就我剛剛問的這幾個問題第一個車頭年限過高第二個搭乘率現在有什麼解救的方法 |
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如果假日我知道假日其實一票難求因為國人會去國旅但是我們平日需要大量的國際觀光客這一點看起來目前為止一直在下滑所以你說經營的不錯是沒錯有一些縣不錯有一些縣很不好最重要的是如果還有這種出軌啦拖軌啦然後甚至之前還聽說什麼有 |
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漏掛一台車廂啦有的沒有的啦台鐵的狀況真的很多好嗎部長我只希望說如果你連搭乘率都不知道或者是連他們管理的方式都不知道的話我覺得你也很難去督導他們所以我希望這兩件事觀光署成效你可能要仔細的看一下第二個台鐵 |
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這是管理的問題這絕對不是我希望不是只有單純你如果國際觀光要把觀光拉起來不會只是他們兩個單位的事好嗎好部長一個月之內給我一個改善的計畫或者是剛剛我講的這些問題你們有沒有什麼因應之道包括你的車頭要換什麼時候換 換什麼第二個國際旅客跟國外旅客的統計不要再用數字來騙我好嗎好謝謝好 謝謝副委員 |