| IVOD_ID |
160261 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/160261 |
| 日期 |
2025-04-16 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-20-8 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期財政委員會第8次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
8 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期財政委員會第8次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-04-16T12:32:07+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-04-16T12:40:32+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:25 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/f9d2e74df98279dfc840525cf3dc7661a3fd8a5ba555e8251a52cf64e50924c0b165d9c3a9e3ea845ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
張啓楷 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:32:07 - 12:40:32 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-04-16T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期財政委員會第8次全體委員會議（事由：邀請財政部莊部長翠雲、經濟部、農業部及公平交易委員會就「防範中國大陸產品低價傾銷及透過台灣洗產地問題之因應策略」進行專題報告，並備質詢。） |
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請莊部長還有經濟部的江次長還有農業部的杜次長 |
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大家這段時間辛苦了我們現在共體時間在共護國難那個江市長還特別代表我們代表團去跟美國談判等一下有些進度我要請教你那我先問一個比較關鍵的其實這段時間這個談判引起大家最大衝擊的其實就是我們在總統說的從零關稅 |
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開始談起那至少有三個層面影響會非常的大第一個是我們關稅直接會減損多少第二個如果真的是零關稅或者關稅非常低那對產業衝擊會很大還有非關稅的這個障礙我先來請教柏定 再見柏定關稅如果用從零關稅或很低的關稅去談馬上影響到就是你的關稅收入減少對不對 |
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我們統計過113年從美國進口的貨物我們實際課真的關稅大概是7.5億美元大概247億7.5億美元你去年整體的關稅收入多少差不多1500億1609股尼關稅的收入是1609那美國呢 |
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所以美國是247億我剛剛講是7.5億的美元在我們關稅的佔比高達15.38所以現在要跟全民講清楚如果真的我們的關稅歸零 |
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對美的關稅歸零 從零關稅來算我們的稅損就是224億的新台幣了在我們關稅的15.38所以保定 你要極力 也要試著要去爭取歸零這對全民的關稅收入影響非常的大在談判的時候 我想我們的談判團隊會有各種不同的相關的策略跟情境來做討論我想這個部分不是 就像委員講說 |
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全部都歸零啦好的談判就是有給也有拿所以我才說你要給跟拿的同時你要抓好你要知道跟全民講說這邊牽扯到247億而且它更重要它不是只有美國如果是美國零的話零關稅那我們跟其他國家FTA那個會有很大衝擊欸最近我們光是跟紐西蘭你看一個先來 |
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一個先生現在要零關稅進來對不對你看那個對台灣的那個產業就已經影響很大了對我們關稅也有影響啊所以部長我先問你這個問題我們讓全民知道關稅的損失零關稅是這麼大的那如果一趴兩趴當然損害會很大所以問財政部要盡量幫我們人民爭取權利另外裡面牽扯到一個比較大的這個進口關稅如果是零啊農業部的次長在現場我來問一下杜Sir |
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我看那個養雞協會歷史上有照出來說如果零關稅 聽到這個 他們嚇都嚇死對不對 你有看到嗎 養豬協會也是緊張到所有跟農業跟畜牧業有關的看到這個零 或者關稅很低 都嚇到了我問你一下 我們現在米啊米 現在每一年從國外配合進來的米有多少 |
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大概有14萬公噸14萬4720公噸美國就佔了其中的45%其中就佔了45%然後我跟你講你知道我們台灣平均起來一公斤的米大概多少錢一公斤到哪裡?40塊左右,來我們農糧署來 |
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你現在平均一公斤多少錢平均白米是四十塊四十多嘛白米再加其他米大概五十米夠了米夠米差不多一公斤多少大概三十五塊左右三十到三十五嘛所以你看美國是大面積耕種他的米很多價格又比我們少那米如果進來你如果真的用你把取消配額我們現在用一個配額在那邊美國已經佔了我們的四十五趴了 |
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配額現在是賣多少?一公斤四十五嘛配額內是賣多少?配額內是零關稅配額外四十五塊還有權利金權利金平均起來大概十幾塊所以你看我們台灣米差不多四兆到四十五塊美國米大概三十到三五他們配額進來四十五那你現在把它全部要降到零關稅 |
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那這完蛋了等於是美國將近30塊米進來打垮了我們台灣的50塊的這個米所以這米這一塊我明確的要求次長回去跟部長講清楚今天招信員都在米啊 |
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不能零關稅而且價格不能太低所有談判都會以農業保障那些農民最優先一定要保障到農民的那個要不然的話我跟你講不只是那個整個米價整個被衝擊了我們30萬那個跟農有關係的到農生活就受影響了這就是內容喔我們的那個整個那個 |
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整個那個農業會很大影響保障台灣農業最優先牛肉是10.10%嘛對不對豬肉12.5%雞肉雞肉傷20%影響最大雞肉如果是從20%以下降到零的話那就太慘了也要幫我們台灣的農業做最優勝的事情我知道大家主席已經站起來了我做個結論 |
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我做要求三個結論 部長你聽一下現在我們都看到了 你看戴文老將 現在處境真的很艱困啊川普是從最高的32先丟出來 然後往下慢慢降我們是從零啊 我們必須要美國保護我們要表現我們的友善 甚至是投降 我們從零開始談你看兩個是落差非常的大的所以我們至少要做三件事情 我今天具體的要求第一 行政院本來我去行政院這個草野協商的時候啊 |
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就說要提出一個細部的衝擊影響評估報告現在細部還沒出來在一個禮拜內給我這個第二個我們剛才講的我們現在全部都看到大部分都在講說什麼事我們賣到美國那邊關稅人家課多少可是我們國內現在人民影響會更大是什麼其實不是只有出去我們進來的時候剛講不是全部都用 |
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不只不能零關稅關稅也不能太低要不然第一個剛講到的關稅損失的第二個對我們農產品對我們的產業影響很大所以這塊到底影響是什麼所以我要求第二個從經濟部跟農業部針對我國被迫要降低關稅這一塊甚至是零關稅你到底對我們衝擊有多大一個禮拜給我一份報告好不好這本來應該是你們就應該有的嘛對不對 |
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483.688 |
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當總統講說可能用從零關稅開始談,您本來就應該有這個東西囉好不好,一個禮拜時間給我這個,好不好第三個,現在他碰到的問題就是降低那個非關稅障礙冒害那個非關稅的那個障礙的影響那個衝擊報告也給我一份一個禮拜,可以嗎 |
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484.639 |
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498.079 |
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好 謝謝應該是總統對外講說從零關稅開始談應該是有的東西嘛市長你們手上應該都有對不對有吧你們不會打給總統吧應該有吧有齁那一個禮拜一個禮拜給我應該送過來我28號我們那個立法院的訪問團就要去美国一個禮拜給我 |