| IVOD_ID |
160258 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/160258 |
| 日期 |
2025-04-16 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-20-8 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期財政委員會第8次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
8 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期財政委員會第8次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-04-16T12:17:50+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-04-16T12:32:02+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:14:12 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/f9d2e74df98279df75c15b20d885003aa3fd8a5ba555e8251a52cf64e50924c04f59cd66632241b05ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
王世堅 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:17:50 - 12:32:02 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-04-16T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期財政委員會第8次全體委員會議（事由：邀請財政部莊部長翠雲、經濟部、農業部及公平交易委員會就「防範中國大陸產品低價傾銷及透過台灣洗產地問題之因應策略」進行專題報告，並備質詢。） |
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第一個就是針對中國電商在我們台灣的銷售加以限制就是取消 |
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中國低價免稅額這個部分我認為這是非常正確的事情但是我要請財政部考量的一點就是說請財政部刀下留人的就是說要取消這個低額2000元小額包裹免稅這個部分我認為針對中國的部分取消就好啦 |
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為什麼呢 因為我們其實有20%的金額是進其他國家 像是美國進日本的保健食品而那是我們國人所需要的我如果用一句話形容就是說 其實那是我們深斗小民啊我們小市民們的小確幸而已嘛 |
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第一個金額那麼小才兩千元我們這個免稅的敏感是全世界最低的你看看其他國家新加坡南韓日本那遠比我們高我相信部長這裡很清楚新加坡甚至高達美金298元一萬元台幣之多 |
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即便日本低一點 88美元也3000台幣而且美日韓其他他們國家對於這個小額的部分他們還不限次數而我們2000元的小額這個包裹 |
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還限半年六次等於一年十二次也不過兩萬四千元所以我認為這個部分這百分之二十總額百分之二十的這個小額包裹應該保留這是給我們深斗小民的小確幸 |
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那至於80%從中國來的這個部分我覺得這一次去取消去設限是應當的啦因為避免他們洗產地嘛這是事實喔 這是事實那 |
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他們中共的這個貨品席產地這個情況我相信部長你很清楚嘛他們整個貨櫃進到加拿大到墨西哥那邊然後再透過小額豁免這個條款 |
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那麼他們透過他們中國的電商小額貨美這個大量的再去進去美國所以這次美國把它取消就這樣那個金額多高欸460億美金欸一兆五千億台幣啦所以這種大金額那這個當然美國他們的考量我們來借鏡是對的所以部長我希望 |
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在這裡面我們台灣的金額多少我相信你們很清楚我們台灣的總金額總金額332億這個小額的這個小額包裹的部分332億裡面來自中國的那麼267億佔了80% |
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那這20%我剛剛跟您提到的生斗小民小市民的小確幸我認為這個不要去碰可不可以 |
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那你現在初步看法呢我覺得我這個講法是非常好非常 |
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確實如同委員所說的80%來自中國大陸那這麼大的一個數量的話會對我們國內的產業其實也會造成衝擊的對而且對乖乖舉舉的 |
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比方說國外來的電商 我舉例好了 新加坡來的來的電商人家在我們台灣 在國家 在我們台灣登記人家也合法繳稅 也接受我們政府 他被我們政府納管嘛人家規規矩矩的做 那最糟糕的就是中共的那邊的淘寶不是嗎 |
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如果他真的有誠意來 他就來台灣登記嘛他也接受我們政府納管嘛 這才對嘛結果不 他們不這麼做 那很可能未來就是可能被利用為席產地嘛 |
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所以我認為說我們有全世界門檻最低的免稅額我們才2000元那承諾我剛剛講的一年我們設限次數12次也不過24000全世界最低國外尤其自由民主國家完全不設限次數而且每一次的金額都還比我們高 |
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那然後呢我們還有全世界最高關稅的保健食品我們的保健品的關稅部長我們討論那麼多次了百分之三十現在經濟部這個 |
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不曉得哪一天來的佛心啦聽久了經濟部你們願意說你們考慮那38要降到20%我希望你們說到做到啦說到做到這個保健品我們全世界最高啊 |
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連日本那麼高也才14.5韓國8% 美國6%那我們30%之多這也是這一次造成美國跟我們之間要求對等關稅的原因就在這裡所以我希望你們一起檢討第二點 江市長 |
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我是針對你啦 你帶話回去跟你們部長講好不好你們部長齁這幾天有講了啦就是說如果因為我們這次跟美國在談判當中很可能我們就是要降低汽車的進口關稅 |
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因為汽車進口關稅不但數十年來我們這麼高還加上我們額外增加的在美國列入的這個叫做不當的額外稅負百分之三十的貨物稅所以相乘之下等於加了六成的稅金那這個也是造成對等關稅的要求談判那麼這一點的時候我認為你代話給部長 |
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他身為部長要謹言慎行 我們國家賴總統已經講了啊我們先釋出善意 我們願意零關稅 這當然是包括汽車啊結果郭部長就說 說如果汽車關稅驟降會釀成十幾萬人失業 |
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這個我四個字形容這個叫危言聳聽而且對事實完全不了解我們講高關稅政府的錯誤不當的是說你高關稅這五六十年來你保護了特定的國產汽車業者就是育農保護了那個阿斗我們是指你保護了整車 |
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是針對整車的部分我們汽車從業人員有有十幾萬但是你要分整車跟零組件的整車裕隆他們六個廠加起來也不過一萬一千五百人哪來的十幾萬人另外零組件他們才是真的人多的 |
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零組件2500家廠總共8萬5000位民眾在那邊工作但是零組件這數十年來是靠自己的努力研發成長受到國際大廠的肯定主動來下單給我們的零組件業者你看他們做的他們做的 |
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不管是汽車燈 汽車大燈不管是保險桿 排氣管等等啦等等這些啊 都是美國大廠 歐洲大廠你像Mercedes-Benz啊 BMW啊 Porsche啊Massarotti 欸 他們主動來下單欸因為我們做得好 而且價廉物美 |
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那這一部分 經濟部 別人可以不曉得經濟部很清楚啊台灣汽車零組件業者是我們台灣的光榮 台灣的驕傲他每一年的產值640億美金耶2000億台幣他們不需要政府保護啊今天美國總統川普還釋出善意他還說 |
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這次對等關稅 汽車零組件的部分他說要豁免他說要豁免啊所以根本不需要嘛我們的汽車關稅降低那是針對整車業者我們汽車零組件業者不需要這些高關稅的保護更何況我們輸往美國的部分他們還要豁免 |
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所以這是兩回事我希望你帶話回去給郭部長他身為部長一言一行洞見觀瞻他講的話就是代表我們整個行政會我們國家的經濟政策產業政策天啊不能把 |
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這個數十年來表現這麼好的汽車零組件業者拿來當作整車業 當作那個阿朵裕隆的保護傘拿他們來見底說這個不能這樣 這樣會影響十幾萬人的工作沒有 只影響裕隆 裕隆自己想清楚 |
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其他的2500家的汽車零組件業者人家活得很好 活得很光榮不需要任何保護也不要被部長拿去當作浴容這個保護傘可不可以我回去會轉達跟向部長報告 |
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你跟他要求這個事情啦好不好我希望以後不要再講這個事情啦好不好真正習慘地的是什麼那個莊部長真正習慘地的就是向日榮引進中國的AMG車他把中國的AMG車化整為零到台灣在台灣組裝所以就是稱為國產車啦 |
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這才需要高關稅保護之下所以他用國產車的名義賣他總共前兩年他總共進了3到4萬輛銷售額超過300億 |
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結果這才是真正的習慘地啊我們要針對的是大金額二列的這個無能的阿斗帶給我們台灣社會的傷害而不是針對小市民的小確幸一個小額包裹才兩千元而且我們還限制一年只能十二次 |
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所以我說對中國的部分百分之八十的中國部分我們取消然後百分之二十對從美國日本進的小黑包括這個我們要繼續維持維護三頭小民的小確定可不可以 |
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好你多久給我答覆好謝謝多久我們一個月好嗎一個月太久了太久了差不多一個禮拜一個禮拜趕快做出決定好不好好謝謝委員是好謝謝 |