| IVOD_ID |
160236 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/160236 |
| 日期 |
2025-04-16 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-19-9 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第9次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
9 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第9次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-04-16T11:23:45+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-04-16T11:35:13+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:11:28 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/f9d2e74df98279dfe9198502c99d2897b2710058b23c04f8ebda33721556222aca595a3337a5a3375ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
邱志偉 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:23:45 - 11:35:13 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-04-16T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第9次全體委員會議議程（事由：邀請國家發展委員會主任委員、經濟部部長及財政部首長就「因應國際貿易情勢變化，如何協助國內廠商擴大國際市場」進行報告，並備質詢。） |
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好 謝謝當然隨時都準備好了來 謝謝主席有請經濟部國務部長 國務會劉主委國務部長劉主委 |
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委員好部長我很詳細看您的報告那報告當然有些重點我大概請問一下就是捷克我們設立這個所謂你境外關內這個部分捷克已經上路了嗎捷克已經上路了嗎是那目前執行狀況怎麼樣 |
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我們現在還是在協助國內的廠商做一些貿易諮詢不是外管的經濟組就可以做了嗎但是外管來講的話我們在那個地方 |
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確實啦我們現在因為人力的問題啦因為境外關聯是一個很大的一個概念你要去捷克投資或者捷克台灣投資你找到他就可以解決所有的問題是不是你的觀念想法是這樣子沒有錯嘛不是那你的想法是怎麼樣 |
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報告委員所謂的境外就是中華民國國境之外就是在捷克在福岡或者在美國某一地對不對在境外那官內的意思是什麼官內就是屬於中華民國政府可以進入協助他們落地那外管能不能協助外管很難啦外管基本上外管也有經濟組啊No no外管是從事外交工作 |
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你們經濟組當然是協助招商經濟組是附屬在裡面經濟組是您管的是您派任的嘛你可以加強規模我的意思是說你要有這個境外官內實質的功能而不是只有表面上的意義您聽我說完如果你的人力不夠你的授權不足傑克桑那邊他只是一個諮詢 |
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他沒辦法馬上得到他應有的協助比方說一個捷克廠商要台灣投資或者台灣去捷克投資台灣去捷克投資我透過這個那個什麼貿易外貿協會就可以了嘛所以我的意思是你要花費功能我想請教你 |
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捷克成立到現在有多少的捷克廠商透過這個貿易投資中心來請求協助有沒有相關資料我們是基本上是輔助台灣的廠商到捷克或者是中東歐去做一些不是 你們的報告是說捷克廠商跟台灣投資也可以透過那邊去取得資賬沒有 你看到你的報告同仁是不是這樣子是雙邊的嘛 |
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沒有錯吧是雙邊的 沒有錯嘛我看我很仔細在研究這個問題嘛 |
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是雙邊的嗎 捷克要來台灣投資 或是台灣要去捷克投資來台灣投資是我們的 投資台灣的這樣一個部門我們主要服務的是捷克商 是捷克要來台灣投資的吧捷克要來台灣投資的 是我們投資師的工作那我們台商要去捷克投資 那個才是我們的貿易中心的工作 |
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那直接找貿協就好啦 為什麼遠在捷克 捷克應該服務在地的捷克來商報告委員 我們現在的貿協有一點稍微不足的地方貿協只做貿易推廣 |
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所以這裡面...我贊成啦,我贊成,但是我要有實質的說你現在4月底要在福岡,福岡有機會我去看看到底是怎麼運作的4月底什麼時候要成立?報告委員,我們未來,我們真正的落實是這樣我們在那個貿易中心,將來我們要在那邊做一個虛擬的...我了解,我實際去了解一下,你4月底日本設立嘛時間點出來了嗎?當時? |
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我們4月21號就會揭牌我有時間去看一看 謝謝到底有沒有實施境外達到境外關聯的功能美國也會成立今年下半年也會成立 |
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我覺得對中小企業的協助你除了財政部這些負稅署這個李署長是不是一起來這個相關的稅務包括出口金融支持等等輸出保惠優惠通關這些措施大概是財政部在執行那我覺得經濟部可以協助的部分 |
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你水電可以給它減免,水電是經濟部官司業,你水電針對這些受影響,比如說這個船產,比如說家裡這個金屬扣件,這個手工具,或者機器業,你水電要給它減免,讓成本可以降低,是你可以做得到的。 |
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報告委員我想這一部分我們現在有一個措施在進行就是我們的節能減碳我們的ESCO這裡面都有一些措施我們會透過這樣子的一個辦法來協助他能夠有效率的使用能源我直接就告訴他這個這半年或者這一年受到關稅的衝擊我的水電給你減少50%我們現在水電都是虧損的狀況我知道啦 虧損當然 |
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他們虧損更嚴重不是 我們現在幫助他幫助他能夠節能減碳我們有這個我是救急 不是救窮啦你能夠做你所掌握的政策工具裡面除了財政部的規劃是財政部在執行之外我說你可以做的水電的減免最直接而且對他們最有管成本馬上降低嘛這個齁 |
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我跟委員報告這個部分可能會違反美國的所謂的補貼我知道WTO我也了解但是你這是個暫時性的緊急處置措施我們的方法就是趕快透過節能減碳的這樣一個措施來幫助它永遠的競爭力長期的工作 |
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那馬上改 誰可以反應 我提出來 你們要不要做 你自己去評估啦廠商給我說 我最直接 你最直接給我解免我的成本降低 我競爭力還可以維持 我就不會倒了這給您做參考了 是 謝謝委員 劉書偉產創條例 你要政府加速產創條例投資修法我上回期我把它修了啊 為什麼你現在還修什麼他現在還沒有過 |
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我委員會通過了 現在等院會院會總質詢之後就算通過了這個我當時招募的時候我通過的啊對我以為你另外一位在提產生條例沒有吧沒有 但是因為現在新的法案還沒有辦法公告另外經濟部這個三大投資海外方案我那天在院會質詢2027條整一個條整你先講兩次資格調整 |
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那產業調整這個部分到底公布了沒有還沒有他因為到期我們這個2024已經到期了現在2025的這個4月份我們新的跟委員報告我們針對這次的關稅問題我們有一個擴大方案包括我們的融資都擴大一倍那這個都要等院核定 |
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我了解啦但是你們這個要趕快合訂而且我們產業也擴大了因為很多非中國其他地方的台商要回來因為非紅供應鏈的問題必須要回來但是你們沒有這個方案趕快公佈他們沒有辦法有所依據啊所以我就給你們趕快這三大方案延長到底內容是怎麼樣趕快公告好的另外你說產業再造基金什麼是產業再造基金 |
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我們現在是有一個實驗性的基金就是過去我們去提醒產業你需要去轉型你那個國安會要出多少錢 |
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我們已經出了我們出了12億那總共30億的基金在第一期那過去的做法是說廠商有時候聽完了不見得會去動作那我們現在這個基金會有人會去購買股權之後有人進去管理協助他轉型之後再退出我意思說不要創造新的名詞你這既然說推動產業再造產業要怎麼再造你要不要再造到什麼樣的一個一個一個境界什麼樣的程度 |
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不是說你拿到12億你就說你要推動產業再造是針對傳統產業突破瓶頸那你現在是跟推動傳統產業升級有什麼關係一樣的概念嘛 對不對 |
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所以你要把傳統產業升級你要推到2.0版對 這是跟過去這個是不太一樣的概念那其實我們是多條路在進行這只是其中一個一條那這一條主要是說過去我們喊那麼多大家不見得會動或者是他不知道如何做我舉個例跟委員報告我們第一次提出來就有廠商主動來報名因為他們發現他們上市之後呢他們沒有國際化管理能力 |
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他就很希望這個基金能夠進去協助他們建議長基金要發揮功能能立即解決問題你那麼多 大家都問我說什麼是再造基金我說我要問一下劉靜清 劉書偉大家都不知道什麼基金的內容再造基金到底是什麼東西能夠協助幫忙哪些事項現在川普對等關稅現在已經正式執行了是不是對中國的關稅4月9號對145%對100多已經正式上路了嗎對 |
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一個禮拜了對不對 從10月9號開始一個禮拜那在中國投資的台商有沒有跟政府有相關的反應你們有沒有介紹相關的訊息跟委員報告 其實在屬於現在原來有很多台商就是規劃快速的轉回來尤其是已經台灣有工廠的他們希望利用台灣的工廠能夠進行做最後組裝達到原產力的規定 |
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那但是因為現在有一些屬於通訊類等等的這幾個屬於在還在一個豁免期的部分就稍微收盪但其他的部分現在有在移動他所當其中面臨到第一波就145%高關稅在中國投資的廠商他們一定想回來或移到第三地沒錯 沒錯 |
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那他們所當前遇到的問題我覺得145%短時間可能沒有辦法去改變對不對所以他們勢必在最短時間之內他就想回來或者移出中國回來最快那我們能夠給他什麼樣的協助因為他們藍莓之極啊175%耶因為專業在中國比較多耶是不是這樣對所以你可能要了解這個我們還是跟經濟部的這個投資台灣辦公室我們現在是緊密的在合作好 謝謝主委 謝謝部長好 |