IVOD_ID |
160214 |
IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/160214 |
日期 |
2025-04-16 |
會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-23-7 |
會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期交通委員會第7次全體委員會議 |
會議資料.屆 |
11 |
會議資料.會期 |
3 |
會議資料.會次 |
7 |
會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
23 |
會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
交通委員會 |
會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期交通委員會第7次全體委員會議 |
影片種類 |
Clip |
開始時間 |
2025-04-16T10:38:17+08:00 |
結束時間 |
2025-04-16T10:48:03+08:00 |
影片長度 |
00:09:46 |
支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/f9d2e74df98279dfcf2a5af51d271bbff316f6363e53358eebda33721556222a077d9df624e048115ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
委員名稱 |
林俊憲 |
委員發言時間 |
10:38:17 - 10:48:03 |
會議時間 |
2025-04-16T09:00:00+08:00 |
會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期交通委員會第7次全體委員會議(事由:一、邀請交通部部長陳世凱列席報告業務概況,並備質詢。
二、邀請交通部部長、經濟部次長、外交部次長、財政部次長、行政院經貿談判辦公室就「美國課徵對等關稅對我國交通公私部門之衝擊與因應」進行專題報告,並備質詢。
【4月16日及17日二天一次會】) |
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好 感謝主席本期邀請我們交通部陳部長好 陳部長委員好部長好部長我們今天在這裡討論美國關稅這次的對台灣的一個影響是其中大家前幾天討論很多的是汽車業但汽車業大家討論的就是台灣的關稅 |
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17.5%還有30%的貨物稅但是我要請教部長美國這一次他針對他的四十幾個主要貿易國家他每一個國家他都寫一份報告我查了這四十幾個國家他點名汽車就是對美國汽車不公平的主要國家只有台灣其他都是一些奇奇怪怪像非洲一些國家 |
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可是美國點名台灣對美國的汽車有貿易障礙他沒有講關稅也沒有講什麼貨物稅當然關稅我們太高 貨物稅我們太高這個我們現在可以跟美國來談 |
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那現在看起來大概主管部會大家也就美國這個部分在談但美國對於台灣美國車子到台灣來它最大的不滿它是技術性的障礙不是關稅非關稅貿易障礙對可是我看這幾天在討論汽車業汽車的影響都是講財政部 經濟部我從來沒看交通部交通部都躲起來 |
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今天造成汽車業被美國點名最主要的就是交通部政策造成的美方點名的是technical barriers to trade技術性的貿易障礙你知道我們的障礙是什麼嗎 |
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報告委員其實汽車的部分有三項一項當然是交通部的一些法規上面是有一些限制沒有錯安全檢驗的部分標準檢驗的部分那第二項其實是跟能源是有相關的也就是我們能源署對汽車油耗也是有限制我講的是美國點名我們的障礙是什麼東西 |
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我看起來你好像不懂這個部分耶你說的技術障礙我再跟你講技術障礙沒有說完美國這次點名技術障礙可能很多種也不止三種那美國點名我們是什麼地方安全法規標準的部分不是美國點名的是說我們對美國車子啊到台灣來我們一個車型一年配額限制75輛 |
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那你知不知道 之前我們對美國車子到台灣來我們一個車型 原本一年限制多少輛很像最早期是從兩千輛到七十五輛慢慢慢慢降 降到現在七十五一種車型所以你要針對美國不滿的地方來 你今天的報告裡面寫的 你不寫也不寫這裡面寫的 航運 貨運 觀光 |
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你針對這幾天討論最多的就是汽車包委員這個部分我們其實跟那你的報告應該告訴我們 |
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那針對這個部分你要怎麼處理因為這個確實有一點不公平啦那美國進口的二手車有沒有配合沒有配合沒有配合喔這變得很奇怪的喔所以美國的二手車到台灣來啊就所謂的掛過 在美國掛過牌的啦就是我們台灣你說的外匯車啦李秋車啦一年哇 這個好幾萬台啊這個蠻多的很多台喔對 |
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所以台灣上路的美規中古車啊各位看啦 這個其實看得出來啦我們外行 我為了這個才去研究因為世界上有兩大系統一個是歐盟的規則一個是美國聯邦經濟安全標準那台灣加入WTO的時候我們採用的是歐盟標準 |
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因為世界主要汽車大國都在歐洲啦所以如果從歐洲進口車沒有這個問題沒有配合啦而且就是只要歐盟審核通過的車子就可以到台灣來但美國車子我們就特別定下一個障礙一個車型一年只能75台原本是一年2000台啊那現在變成到75台我不知道車安中心為什麼這麼定啊這誰定的啊 |
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這個部分我跟委員報告一下剛剛委員所提到確實就是說這個現行這個車輛安全法規的部分的話大家都是調和聯合國一位一席法規進來那原則上就是說國際上各個車廠要銷售到各地的這個車輛的話基本上就是要符合當地國的這個法規那當時這個純美規車輛的部分基本上就是說純美規你為什麼先回答我的問題 |
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從2000台到75台那為什麼美國二手車你就沒有限配當時對於純美規的這個車輛基本上其實我們是相較於日本或是這個韓國是特別開了一條路就是說純美規的車輛還可以到這一個國內來那剛剛委員所提到那個外匯車中古車的部分的話因為他是屬於這個使用過的車輛他的法規檢測項目比較少所以 |
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如果玫瑰車你講的是我們特別開個縫那為什麼二手車都可以就沒有限制然後你新車就給他限制我現在不是你在這邊跟我講現在是美方把這樣子認為是一個貿易障礙 |
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他特別點名台灣你怎麼給我做這樣的限制報告委員這個部分我們已經跟行政院那邊也都有做溝通那未來該怎麼樣去跟美國談判其實我們也都已經有版本我跟你說啦部長我跟你講他們這個一個你們車安中心還有陸中獅這邊你們這個非常衙門化你這官僚你也回答不出來啊你兩兄弟現在槓七十五台所以各位有沒有注意到啊其實啊 |
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台灣現在看不到純美國車的車子啦像卡迪拉克啦雪佛朗這些你大概看不到啦那福特為什麼看得到那福特車子為什麼看不到福特車子都是歐規的啦他們是做歐規的沒錯他們都用歐規的車包含特斯拉雖然在美國製造但是他是用歐規的車他們都用歐規的車因為我們台灣人汗水只用車營70幾台嘛 |
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那現在造成啊我記得好像Poeta有一個車型有一個車啦他就用一個車型他其實同一台車啦他用不同的規格車子就申請為四五種車型用這樣來鑽漏洞那你也是準啊 |
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你賣準跟委員報告他那個沒有專注因為我們是同意車同意這個規格車輛行駛我跟你講這個如果不是美國把它點出來說你台灣設一個貿易障礙我也不知道我也不知道我們有這麼多人我現在發現啦美方指責我們這個貿易障礙這有得力啊你憑什麼人就市長來決定啦對不對但其實日韓各國也都是那我跟你講喔你這樣的話對於 |
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你不要被旁邊人給影響美國沒有跟日本車 韓國車美國車是銷到日本 韓國美國沒有點出貿易障礙他只有特別點台灣你不要被旁邊的幕僚給你唬爛去還有 你要跟我們寫關稅對台灣的交通部對關稅的因應還有影響台灣有個產業會影響很大 |
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台灣沒有車子銷美國啦 幾乎沒有但台灣的汽車零組件 銷美國量很大啦台灣一年有1000多億的汽車零組件這是台灣非常重要的衛銷產業啦台灣非常強啦包括燈啦 輪框啦 輪壺 一大堆啦你現在如果美國用這樣的關稅齁那這個汽車零組件我們賺的 |
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你裡面連寫也沒寫到報告員這是在經濟部的報告裡面那跟你交通部沒關係嗎對不對零組件的產業不是我的產業這些也是我們交通部車輛的零組件嘛照你寫各位可以看一下交通部寫的這個報告跟美國關稅跟交通部一樣應用也沒有你寫起來是毫無影響啊那我再告訴你你躲了好幾天啊 |
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去美方點名我們的汽車貿易障礙要出來回答這個問題的是交通部啦財政部講的是關稅 那沒有錯我去談經濟部有去談你的關稅或是稅那你交通部要出來回答這個問題嘛你告訴我台灣是很少見的來 你去查一下美國對這幾十個主要貿易國家有提到汽車台灣大概是唯一啦 |
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其他國家我沒有看到你說日本 韓國沒有啦美方沒有認為他美國撤資到日本 韓國有什麼障礙只有點名我們台灣點名就是這個問題這個其實不合理啦那如果沒有美國來點名的話其實沒人知道他們也是照幹啦 |
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你旁邊那些他們什麼相關單位報告委員第一時間我們已經跟行政院那邊都有溝通我知道因為美國都跟你講了他還沒講我們就再處理了好謝謝主席啦謝謝部長謝謝委員 |