| IVOD_ID |
160212 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/160212 |
| 日期 |
2025-04-16 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-23-7 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期交通委員會第7次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
7 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
23 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
交通委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期交通委員會第7次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-04-16T10:13:55+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-04-16T10:27:00+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:13:05 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/f9d2e74df98279dfd3430b3c5102f0f9f316f6363e53358eebda33721556222a250870e6442c78765ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
李昆澤 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:13:55 - 10:27:00 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-04-16T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期交通委員會第7次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請交通部部長陳世凱列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。
二、邀請交通部部長、經濟部次長、外交部次長、財政部次長、行政院經貿談判辦公室就「美國課徵對等關稅對我國交通公私部門之衝擊與因應」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
【4月16日及17日二天一次會】） |
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謝謝主席 請一下陳士凱部長 吳聖元市長還有陳文樂局長 高鐵鄭光元董事長還有陳文樂局長 趙新華局長來陪一下陳部長 |
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委員好部長好在4月14號這個高鐵的204車次經過板橋經過板橋它過站不停這樣的狀況影響了150名左右的乘客乘客很錯愕然後呢社會大眾也很驚訝我先請教一下陳文貴局長 |
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陳文睿局長那高鐵都會停板橋嗎來說明一下你的認知啦陳文睿局長是公務我當然知道啊 |
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我來五界的交通委員會我怎麼會不知道我問他知不知道高鐵會不會停板橋我的認知應該是都會好謝謝社會上很多人都不清楚其實板橋每天都有高鐵的車次他是不停的每天都有啦這個北上的車次啊 |
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每天都有至少有一班他是不停板橋的南下會有兩班他是不停的但是這個不停跟這個204車子又不一樣204車子他是要停板橋的那我先請教一下鄭光源董事長他也不是不停他有停下來停下來之後旅客大包小包行李準備要下車車子又開走了為什麼呢 |
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他這個他誤以為這個應該是因為前一段時間他這個行動公司跟他講說設定70速限70那這個JAS我們了解最近這一兩個月裡面他前後都是第一班第二班第三班他都是開著第一班跟第三班都是過去都是沒有停的 |
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然後他這一次六班裡面第一次他開的這個是這樣不是很離譜嗎因為我們高鐵的車是有直達車也有站站停也有跳站式的那我們的駕駛訓練成這種樣子他會搞不清楚因為我到底開的是要站站停的還是直達車或者是板橋都要停的這個車站 |
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這個車次跟委員報告他其實他認知在行前的時候他是知道這個要停的這也不是駕駛個人的認知而已啦他有跟行控中心來聯繫嗎他有跟列車長聯繫嗎 |
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這個就是他的疏忽我們的規定就是說你如果不清楚馬上一請教OCC 請控中心跟他 他就疏忽了這個動作那我請教一下 那社會上有人會說這個 |
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他已經行控了是不是能夠將這個車啊來停住啊或者是說這個車能不能倒退路他其實這個都違反行車的安全啊來那社會上有這種認知高鐵是不是說明一下 |
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其實這是以後我們的一個改善的方向如果說駕駛它發生這個情況了我們的那個列車長也告訴了馬上就告訴我們的OCC我們有兩個方式去告訴OCC把它停下來另外一個呢就是說我們的列車長啊已經告訴他它還是開了我們也可以按我們的PEI馬上把它停下來這個是我們以後要努力的這個改善的一個方向 |
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但是這樣其實都是危害到行車的安全不管是你強行的把它停下來或者是說要倒退路啊這對行車的安全都是造成衝擊在影響嘛對嗎那你們這個要加強教育訓練啊你們在 |
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車班派遣前的這一些啊確認沒有落實啊而且啊你們駕駛行控跟列車長之間的聯繫也沒有也沒有確認啊我就說你們有直達車有站站停也有跳站式的這樣的一個車次現在有34組的車次啊2027年啊會再增加12組的這種列車啊 |
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那車次越來越多你們這樣目前就已經混亂成這個樣子了這個民眾無法接受喔這個謝謝這個委員指教我們確實要朝剛才委員講的那個方式刑檢的確認還有中間的駕駛員跟這個列車長行動中心的互相的聯繫這個我們要加強不容再發生來那個吳聖元董事長也是次長喔代理董事長 |
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高鐵過站不停台鐵今年已經有六起停車不當的這樣的一個事件有四件是人為的因素有兩件是ATP的因素我們6月23號要漲價我們這樣的安全的掌握跟效率的問題真的是對不起民眾 來說明一下 |
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我想我這個跟委員報告我想這個這次今年已經有六起的停車就是位置停的比較不好那這邊幾個大概剛剛提到的幾個是人為因素那現在我們大概有做幾個防範的措施我們針對幾個違規行為我們建議這樣一個資料庫從這個違規行為裡面去彙整系統性的這樣一個問題來針對他的問題去好好去做 |
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第二個我們會有所謂的幹部隨程來督導看他做的做法有沒有什麼需要改善的第三個從我們ATP的管理裡面我們去分析哪一些有高風險的我們來做一些防範來部長這個都要加強督促啦法脈共的一片天做的怕死人 |
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其實照SOP然後維持駕駛的紀律這個很重要不管是高鐵或是台鐵那台鐵的狀況其實也蠻多的所以這個部分我們會特別關注這要加強督促跟改善好另外部長就任到現在其實有一個政策我應該是給予認同就是有關於國道客運我們在春節期間還有親民的這個連假 |
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有實施這個打折的這樣一個優惠在過去我記得都是大概都是打85折但是部長這一次針對希望民眾更有感受更願意來搭乘大眾運輸系統所以提升到6折那這個6折我看到我們的這個其實 |
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公路客運的載客的總人次跟每日平均的載運人次其實是各個運輸系統裡面最不好的大概只有疫情之前的62%但是春節跟清明年假部長實施這個六者它實質的運量都有提升2025的春節比2024年的春節提升了31%然後清明節的年假 |
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平均的這個平均日的日運量啊也達到15萬人次比春節啊他的這個廉價成長了24%所以我認為部長我要提議我們現在 |
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春節跟清明年假都有這樣的一個六折的優惠措施而且搭乘量也明顯的提升那我是認為未來春節清明端午中秋四大節日都應該維持這樣的一個優惠措施就是讓民眾來搭乘大眾運輸搭乘國道客運也使得這種國道的這個乘載量可以比較沒有那麼沉重來部長簡單說明一下 |
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報告委員您的這個建議確實我們之前因為這個國道客運的承載量狀況不是很好所以我們今年特別在春節跟這個清明的時候我們特別提出六折的這個計畫確實成績非常的不錯很多的民眾願意搭國道客運這是個很好的現象那但是我們這個預算的部分 |
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我們再盤點一下不過委員這個建議很好就是說四大節日其實是民眾集中而且是蠻單向性的運輸的習慣我們如果可以的話讓國道客運可以都打六折讓更多的民眾習慣去搭國道客運我覺得這個假日是培養運量最好的時機 |
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好這個部分我們盡量來配合委員建議我們盡量來配合部長你在國道客運的這個打折提升它的運量這個是成績是大家可以認同的但是你也有成績做得不夠的就是有關於我們的交通的安全的改善那交通安全的改善雖然略有進步但是還沒有到達下降3%的這樣的一個總目標 |
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這個3%就是我當初跟交通部跟行政院共同討論出來我們必須要有一個明確的目標來告訴社會大眾我們要做到什麼程度那當然啦國家道路交通安全的綱要計畫行政院在2月7號2024年2月7號核定通過也已經一年了我們來看看啦 |
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大安司的交通事故的這個死傷的統計死亡的人數啊有下降了2.4然後事故的件數啊也下降了2.2受傷的人數啊下降了2.7雖然都有 |
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提升進步但是還是未達目標我們社會大眾還是嚴格的認為我們交通安全的改善還是不及格沒有達到目標那這個部分我們看到 |
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為打目標之外還有幾個我們特別要去注意就是高齡者青年以及大型車的事故它的件數都有明顯的增加那這個部分部長你能不能簡單說明一下我們針對這樣的一個高齡者青年以及大型車的事故它有明顯的增加交通部有什麼對策我們有什麼針對 |
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尤其是不良駕駛行為這樣的一個 |
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改善有沒有什麼加強訓練或者是相關的這種改善追蹤的一個制度來說明一下是 報告委員比較增加的部分是無照駕駛的部分其實增加了不少那針對無照駕駛的部分當然一方面罰則增加那二方面該有的機車的訓練給青少年的部分這個我們也正在加強當中機車訓練的部分那大型車的部分我們應該公路局也有針對大型車的部分有一些計畫啦就是說針對它的車行或者是公司 |
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我們也有一些祭典的計畫並且要求他們的教育訓練必須要落實高風險的駕駛我們的教育訓練必須要落實這個部分也會加強除了相關的教育訓練還有針對違規之後我們的交通部尤其是公務局相關的我們有一些要求他們改善的一些教育訓練的一些課程 |
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這個必須要更精進然後我們相關的這個改善的追蹤也必須要建立制度這些改善的這樣的一個相關的這一種範本要提供給各縣市能夠去做交流能夠去作為一個改善的範本部長簡單說明一下 |
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764.597 |
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報告委員您的這個建議我們會照做這個部分各個縣市其實都要互相交流好的方法大家一起學那這個部分我會拜託公路局落實來做部長我再一次提醒你我們對於交通安全國人都在注意3%已經是一個低標了雖然已經快接近及格的分數但還是不及格我們還是要嚴格的打分數還是不及格我們希望 |
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766.018 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].end |
784.666 |
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針對我們交通的相關的道路的國家交通安全這些改善的綱要計畫必須要去落實交通安全基本法相關的號誌、燈號、危險路段等等的這些改善都是你很重要的工作部長要全力以赴好 謝謝委員 |