| IVOD_ID |
160163 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/160163 |
| 日期 |
2025-04-15 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
院會-11-3-7 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期第7次會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
7 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
院會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期第7次會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-04-15T11:18:33+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-04-15T11:35:04+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:16:31 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/ff8fb8a229f5b3ffc19532611a132e9307f87cc90aeb78e39b53bf68f23d1baf86cf5dcbc0b7422b5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
劉建國 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:18:33 - 11:35:04 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-04-15T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第3會期第7次會議（事由：一、覆議案之處理事項（4月11日上午）。二、行政院院長提出針對美國關稅政策因應作為專案報告並備質詢（4月11日下午）。三、對行政院院長提出施政方針及施政報告繼續質詢（4月15日）。四、4月11日上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。） |
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謝主席 有請卓院長麻煩再請卓院長備詢卓院長 辛苦了 |
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院長要撐住啊更要挺住國人都挺住我們一定跟國人一起站在一起挺住那你挺住的力道要特別特別的大然後率領著我們所有的這些閣員一起大家共同挺住因為面對台灣內有國會的不正常外有川普的千變亂化所以這是急劇挑戰那我個人 |
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一直感覺啦,我的感受是這樣子這個比疫情的時候更加的嚴重甚至挑戰的面向會更多、更廣然後擔任行政院的院長基本上要率領各位面對這樣的一個挑戰跟衝擊所以我才會特別跟院長講說一定要挺住啦,要撐住啦 |
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你看在4月13號你特別攔下到高雄去跟產業界來座談那現在這個關稅戰已經慢慢有在浮現兩件事情就請教院長第一個這個AI的產業中最重要的核心顯示卡等這類的電子零組件已經開始準備在漲價那未來他可能有相關的這些骨牌的效應會持續的一直延伸下來 |
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那最後可能會導致衝擊到民生的經濟萬物皆漲行政院要如何做因應這是第一件事情那第二件事情曾經也是我們行政院的副院長現在是高雄市的連任的市長與你一起參加座談會的時候特別當你的面提出來希望可以調降這個存款的準備率 |
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院長當然有做一個簡單的回應,簽立法動全身,那院長到目前為止有沒有什麼改變?有沒有什麼因應之道?因為畢竟是同黨的,然後也是直轄市執政的首長來對你提出這樣建議,這個社會相當關注,請院長簡單回顧這兩件事情。 |
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好的 第一件我們在伺服器跟顯示卡是在我們自通訊產業電視產業當中在蘇美最重要的大宗產品之一它一旦關稅加重於現在的負擔對整個 |
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這個產業鏈來講都是一個成本的增加所以我們在支撐的產業的需求方面我們就提出了支持的計畫從各方面來協助大家能夠轉移市場開發市場進行研發甚至做其他更多的行政上的一個成本的降低等等這是第一個部分但是我們會把它列為很重要因為台灣不只支持有高科技 |
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影響帶的這個中小企業 傳統企業更是重要 更是影響更大那第二個問題是那天陳其邁市長提到的這個問題那就是那幾天當中 |
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不是第一次聽到這個建議所以回來我馬上有跟我們央行的總裁 楊總裁我請教他說這個真的是牽一髮而動全身對銀行來講可能讓他的資金更寬鬆 更餘裕但對市場來講會不會產生一個什麼樣的訊息對金融的安全會不會產生一樣什麼樣的訊息我請央行總裁能夠 |
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去理性的討論內部討論這個事情所以還沒有做最後的結論嘛對不對你可以問一下央行總裁我還是請院長可能要快速因應喔因為千變萬化的川普我們要如何去做最快速的積極的因應真的是還是有老院長的智慧了那第二件事情再過15天我們就要報稅那院長已經有責成財政部針對這次的報稅可以延到6月底但是這個面向不寬不管 |
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如果面對到過去的疫情來講對上過去的疫情來講基本上它延長的時間還有面向包含可能會有人被減薪減班甚至有失業甚至會造成一些衝擊是不是可以再折騰財政部這邊能針對在這個報稅的過程裡面可以朝向更寬敞的時間然後甚至也可以提出這個分期的這樣的一個繳稅可不可以過去疫情期間曾經有過這樣的歷史 |
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我想那個時候主要是要減輕大家的負擔之外一個重要因素是讓大家不要群聚免得這個疫情擴大那這一次我們也是一樣除了希望大家能夠紓解一下壓力之外就在這一段時間讓所有的廠商或是個人盡量去面對關稅做內部公司產業的自我調適把重要的時間精神放在這裡報稅的部分可以往後延一下讓大家能夠習慣這個動作所以 |
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往後延增加一個月並不是降稅啦 是增加時間但這個也會增加我們財政部相當多的成本那天部長有跟我說明這個事情我說該吸收我們就吸收 這個沒有問題對 我當然不是講降稅 我是講說延後報稅嘛這時間能不能再往後延 不是只有一個月的時間啦能不能 針對失業的 針對減班的 針對相關衝擊的產業 |
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可以嗎跟委員報告您提的事就是報稅就是所得稅的結算申報原來是在五月份一個月那現在延長到六月底的時候有兩個月可以去申報但是呢如果他受到這個有關財務上的衝擊的話那他可以去申請延期繳稅也可以做分期繳稅分期那我們可以分36期就分三年來繳稅所以申報有已經寬了一個月然後繳稅期限也可以讓他往後延 |
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分期這個我都很清楚我強調是延長就像你講的五月六月我們現在可以延到六月底能不能再延嘛它是申報 這是申報的動作那繳稅的話可以申請延期或者是三年期間的分期這樣子讓它可以減輕有關資金上的壓力我們現在同意報稅延長一個月嘛 對不對沒有錯嘛能不能面對這幾個我剛剛講的狀況可以再延長 |
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我這樣的題目很清楚嘛,能不能研議嘛是,我想這個部分我們會用從寬從幽的方式來處理好啦,就請院長是不是可以就哲程來做一些相關的研議啦,可不可以應該可以吧我想申報應該可以,他可以先申報嘛,對 |
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我們不需要糾結這個事情好不好,我覺得這樣很奇怪你們就可以主動去延長申報到六月底,原本是五月底嘛那我想因為剛剛特別提到跟院長提醒讓他們了解這個事情相關的一些衝擊慢慢在弧限了,在弧限的過程裡面我們希望讓這些產業可以專注他去應應這些衝擊所以他報稅的期間能不能再延長再寬鬆一點 |
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就這樣而已啊我跟委員報告現在因為他整個電腦程式程序都要更改目前更改的程式是到六月底那我也希望說這個時候大家能夠請委員長我們就已經有更改到月月底那我剛剛特別提到AI的相關的一些零組件都已經受到衝擊了已經在浮現了 |
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第一個我希望我們這個 |
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形勢能夠迅速的趨向穩定下來大家能夠在這個時間內完成再來一直往後延對我們國家的現金的流動是有一些影響的我們糾結在這個地方不對啦我是講說可能會立即受到衝擊的這些三文產業因為我們要做很快速的應變嘛我們今天已經馬上應變可以全部都可以延長一個月對不對你已經做這個應變了啊 |
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我是講說有些敏感的產業 特殊的產業立即會產生到如同我剛剛跟你講的AI相關的這些零組件是不是大家還有更長的一個緩衝擊來做申報能不能嚴厲嘛 你就打火槍就好了啊能不能嚴厲 不要馬上答應嘛我們現在嚴這個時間都設計好了如果到六月的時候真的有情況發生我們當然會預先來做預判我們就朝向可以嚴厲來做相關的因應了好不好 |
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我們這樣處理事情,我覺得您的速度太慢,您的變化,您的應變,這樣是不及格,抱歉喔真的很抱歉,部長你先回吧不能太僵硬啦,自己都會主動延一個月,我只是提供可能會一直面對到的相關的歷史性的這些傷害的產業能不能有更寬鬆的這樣申報的期限部長你這樣答我會覺得,我聽起來很難聽啦 |
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32%的稅率上週五台灣也正式跟美方進行第一次的會談嘛對不對那目前都朝向好的方向嘛應該是這樣嘛應該是很順利的展開第一次的但是美國貿易代表所在3月31去公布2025的對外貿易障礙的評估報告中點名台灣的豬牛馬鈴薯稻米及基改食品設有貿易障礙這是一個事實那國人就非常擔心嘛台灣的農糧實際上會不會變成談判桌上的籌碼 |
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台灣以農為本院長非常清楚我們再怎麼樣的談判坦白講這一次川普的事件基本上還是以美國利益為導向最終還是以政治來做解決我個人的看法所以農業上院長能不能承諾我再怎麼樣都不可以成為談判上的籌碼甚至於絕對不能讓步因為 |
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食安是國人最低的要求那農產是我們整個國安的戰備上的一個位階所以院長能不能直接承諾我說農業絕對不能成為談判桌上的一個籌碼我們要設最低的底線第一次的談判結束裡面對等關稅跟非關稅貿易障礙跟出國管制都是重要議題當中的一部分所以其中談到非關稅貿易障礙 |
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非關稅貿易障礙不僅在農業在工業上也有那這個都是將來大家必須面對的那我們對於國人的健康安全我們會很重視的所以基於健康安全也基於我們消費的習慣 |
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這個是我們的原則但是我們要考量的也包括國際的標準也包括有沒有科學的認證如果在這個通常考量底下我們才能在談判的桌上去跟對方表示我方國家所需要的因為我們國情是所需那這一點我們是列為談判的重點院長啦 台灣的榮養跟食安這個絕對不能成為談判桌上的籌碼我再實行 我已經強調三次了我們自己也編了180億來因應這次的關稅衝擊嘛 對不對 |
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那是不是有能比照2023年易貨特別預算,農業部排編列了268億,投入了改善農水路、漁港、養殖等這個基礎設施? |
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我跟委員報告我們現在的支持方案裡面最主要是針對受影響的產業去協助那您剛才提到的農水路的部分我那個是一個比喻我是說1號車我們還編了268億對不對我們現在當然要趕快來最好是可以馬上成立一個針對農業面對到對等關稅的相關的營業小組甚至我在這邊也希望院長能不能責成一位政委來統籌這件事情從農糧從食安 |
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所以我特別剛剛強調說農業絕對不能成為這一次的對等關稅談判桌上的一個籌碼我強調第四次了 |
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疫後特別條例非常的成功因為他是針對普遍性國人受到疫情的影響那這一次我們是要針對受到美國關稅影響國際貿易情勢改變的這些對象所以基本上有一些不完全相同的地方所以我們針對這產業受影響了我們給他一些支持讓他研發開發多元市場等等那倒不是說我們想要把這個農水路水庫設施做好那是用一般的年度預算來做的 |
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我跟委員補充一下就是您剛才所關切的其實在關稅的部分在農業部本身我們就有一個因應小組那我們所研析所評估的我們隨時會提供給我們的談判小組做一個討論所以基本上在農業部已經有一個因應小組然後這個因應小組的一些評估跟他的一個建議都會進到我們的談判小組裡面部長你如果覺得說農業部的因應小組就已足夠 |
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798.038 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].end |
825.807 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].text |
我也可以接受我們現在講了農業部這一次面對到預算被大刪減大凍結對農業部有造成什麼樣影響能不能簡單說一下我們這一次的預算被刪了20.14億那其中被刪了因為我們在今年度提了非常多的新的工作特別是院長非常重視的所謂的那個那個系統性的水治理那系統性的水治理牽涉到四山防洪 |
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827.037 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].end |
850.968 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].text |
牽涉到集水區的一個整治牽涉到下游的濃水路的一個建設那這個建設基本上都已經因我們的20.14億的預算被刪而受到影響農業部好不容易從112年當時的農委會我們因為促改讓他可以升級到變成農業部好不容易相關的經費可以逐步逐步的到位多增加一點預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].start |
852.884 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].end |
882.027 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].text |
非常符合公平與正義因為不正義太久了對台南農業不正義太久了哪有說今天農業部的預算增加一些被當成在野黨的這個刪減相關預算的進卵我覺得實在是講不過去我們對農業已經不公平太久時間了還有民進黨執政可以讓農委會變成農業部增加幾次的預算是有相關的項目跟計畫必須要去執行就好比說你今天的冷鏈 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].start |
882.828 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].end |
902.894 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].text |
今天能力我們去補助,讓農民可以在農產品提升相關的競爭我們補助相關提出申請的人,他們還是要自從對等的比例的預算經費來做處理這也帶動國內的一些產業的需求去做一些刺激但是你看今天煤圈被統三 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].start |
906.455 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].end |
932.146 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].text |
60% 然後環貫非洲豬瘟 邊境管制及國內防疫整理計畫被刪了6000萬 這個有沒有影響這都有影響 特別是我們在非洲豬瘟的話 我們守得非常努力那相關的這些沒宣費 最主要就是做這些宣導 包括在飛機上 在邊境還有在我們的民間 都有做這樣的一個宣導剛剛被延長要報稅的時間拖太久了太多了 還有龍水 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].start |
982.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].end |
983.234 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].text |
好 謝謝 謝謝劉建國委員指揮謝謝卓院長 相關部會首長貝雪 |