| IVOD_ID |
160158 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/160158 |
| 日期 |
2025-04-15 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
院會-11-3-7 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期第7次會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
7 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
院會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期第7次會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-04-15T09:01:22+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-04-15T09:32:26+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:31:04 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/ff8fb8a229f5b3ff6a106d494b022fd607f87cc90aeb78e38b69bd317da7bf77f1fcc3062aedd04a5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
蘇清泉 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:01:22 - 09:32:26 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-04-15T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第3會期第7次會議（事由：一、覆議案之處理事項（4月11日上午）。二、行政院院長提出針對美國關稅政策因應作為專案報告並備質詢（4月11日下午）。三、對行政院院長提出施政方針及施政報告繼續質詢（4月15日）。四、4月11日上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。） |
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謝謝主席我請我們院長還有我們農業部長還有交通部長請卓院長、農業部、交通部備詢 |
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蘇委員好院長辛苦了大家都辛苦了我丹這頂多丹六次六次,政黨執行丹的時間比故啦我這個版本已經換了N次了 |
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好,這十來天真的是大家都辛苦啊。是是。育牛,你也去屏東、去哪裡,一個IT的,一個中小企業,一個漁業,那我們那個農業部長,他也跑了好幾個地方。好,我第一個問題先問,我們這個對等關稅,玩到現在, |
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結果是在玩美債我們也嚇了一跳我想我們行政單位要跟美國談判應該隨時要掌握因為美國這邊外來外去我就覺得川普總統真的是在我們醫生看起來真的是有點問題邱部長等一下可以解釋解釋 |
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他可以再說嗎?可以再說嗎?說半導體他還是要扣我先請問院長 |
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我們編了這個八百八十億,裡面農業的部分是一百八十億嘛我一直在問陳部長說,你這一百八十億到底是要做什麼?因為昨天還有市路費的人跟我說,省燃費的人跟我說說因為里巡都差不多十%上下而已啊,如果我扣十%要怎麼判斷嘛?你等到最後可能二十%、二十幾% |
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他們就不要買了,你這個錢是要來補他關水的車子,這樣八八就要補什麼,兩三下就補完了,你三個月要怎麼樣,你賣你要怎麼樣。 |
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這個880億對產業的支持方案我一直強調是用產業受困面的需求我們來編但我想我們先短期面對目前的問題我們先有一個讓整個產業調適期我們一定要幫產業經過這個調適期調適期有兩個一方面是我們跟美方的談判會持續的進行當然我要爭取最有利於我方我國的一些利益 |
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第二個談判的內容到底會對產業形成怎麼樣的一個實際上在經營面的損害我們還沒有確定還沒有辦法定案但是我們先把初期這個衝擊把它算出來所以我們從低的推估高的推估到現在 |
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過去32%的最高推估我們都進行的試算我們希望它當然越低越好那雙方經過調試期做這個稅率上面能夠有一些分擔那政府做一些協助讓產業能夠安靜的去安心的去經營 |
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我聽農業部的181,要補助他們的理事,要補助關稅,要叫他們更新設備,要叫他們做冷鏈,你是什麼?你是一百八十還是美金?我跟議員報告,農業部編的一百八十在裡面, |
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不是去補他們的關稅 只補他們的關稅補不了所以我們要趁這個機會 在短期之內我們是用金融去支持他們的資金壓力第二個部分就是說 他們外銷的時候的關稅通常是進口商跟出口商會有一個討論我們針對這個部分 我們做一些外銷獎勵讓這個訂單能夠持續走 |
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然後最後的時候是希望說整個的產業的競爭力能夠趁這個機會能夠轉型以後那我們就有能力去面對未來的一些關稅的挑戰 |
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鱸魚等等,藍輝都是大莊,院長你也有去所以我們非常關心,二線都一直在反映所以我是覺得你這個第一波的800多億是第一波的那你有可能一直加,就好像那次COVID-19,2100億一直加,加了4次 |
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所以這個可能性是有的嘛委員我們當然希望經過調適以後產業自己能夠轉型升級多開發不同的市場那也許這樣下來我們更多元化的來看國際市場的時候我們的衝擊會降低那以後的生態會改變那一天毛豆業者說啊現在大陸消費米國的毛豆佔七成我們佔三成啊現在大陸整個關稅關所以呢我們的機會越多結果他就賺不到10%你要他就10%對啊 |
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你多少也賺不到對不對 部長還有院長 這個重點來 部長請我跟你們報告 毛豆本身這個10%我跟他說10%不只是全部由我們的出口商來吸收所以相對的用這樣的 我們討論過這樣的一個利率本身我們如果能夠強攻中國本來在美國的這個市場讓量擴大的時候 其實它的利潤是會更大的 |
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量大利率會增大對你的理神都會死了你這樣講有點毛病我們的毛豆本身是走高端市場的那高端市場的利潤會遠大於我們現在的關稅現在想毛豆那個機器一台都四五百萬五六百萬當然人命會不會有補助啦你知道都是老闆跟那個合夥人自己在開三更半夜因為太陽一出來 |
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漏水漏氣,毛豆會變苦,所以都在太陽出來之前,他們就燒,都半夜在燒毛豆,你知道嗎,都是老闆自己在開車,開那個滑倒機,而且刮到石石下去,肚骨連下去,我也被叫成這樣,所以喔, |
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他們是很辛苦的所以那些外勞的部分移工的部分這個都要通盤考慮不然的話真的你要給他做多他也沒辦法好不好這很重要我們面面報告委員這個部長是經常到各地他非常了解農漁民的作業的這個狀況我想一般的國人也非常清楚農漁民在生產過程當中的辛苦 |
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危險所以我們一定用農漁優先的角度是政府永遠不變的定律我們用這個方向來保護農民應該有的權益陳副長很認真 謝謝委員的支持 |
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盲國啊 灘災他都很快的速度就公告那農民非常感謝大家一起來啦這個沒有分什麼藍綠啦好 謝謝 謝謝神父長那接著我們問交通的喔院長 我要跟你講齁我們屏東縣這二十幾年以來我們的交通 |
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一隻有氣的,剛好二高,國道三號,這協商橋第一大通到零落,第二大通到南,第三大通到大鵬灣這是2006年,現在是2024再來我們的八八快速路,2000年就完工了 |
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我們陳部長很認真,前幾天我們又去興村考察,他還講了一大堆,我告訴你,我把它review起來,整個屏東關二十幾年來,公路的交通建設,零!零!好,下一張,這是國道10號延伸到新威大橋, |
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這是我在北海日報的那一順,那個順的硬腦在講虛話,那個時候在銀建署定案的,2014年,就過了經過環評,經過什麼,那個時候親民黨也在反對等等,說環評有問題,好了,到今年年初, |
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動工 部長去動工 院長我不知道你去沒有因為連動工 連動工都因為颱風炎了好幾次對不對那這一條路 十年前就定案了 十年後才恆大斷崗所以交通建設沒那麼簡單啦 一定要經過繁瑣的評估又評估然後又...好了 那現在那一條已經 |
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已經動工了不過那一條大部分都在高雄市只有尾端到新威大橋接到高速的北端然後我們西西方有旅遊啊農業啊交通啊還有病人的輸送等等好那現在屏東有三個第一個就是屏北的二塊那個院長你說要明年要動工115年我們就拼115年對對對跟你講的 |
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比高鐵左營站跟仁甫跟大樹跟九州鄉然後併入國道3號這個院長你是很concern的希望這一條要像你講的如期明年動工我會盯著我會天天盯著你我們一起盯著交通部一起努力我聽你先說一下報告委員這一條院長有指示明年底一定要動工那我們現在正在改應該也是做得到明年的10月好 |
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再來,這個是屏南快速路這一條部長我聽了你講了不下十次啦院長也講了好多次那這一條是從88街接到恆春北端要開前往的這條目前2032年才能通車啦一定,跟我剛才說斷 |
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交通部送來的計畫應該比這個樂觀多但是先期的作業現在還在進行是不是部長了解一下我們希望119年可以得到院的核定119年如果我們整個環評整個計畫做好之後院核定之後我們7年可以完工119年2030對2030那那個高架的下面應該用自行車道 |
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我以為有建議過,我覺得這是很好的建議,因為包含我們的高屏二塊,下面也用了包含人行道、包含自行車道,我們都有加下去 |
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因為現在單車組越來越多也是開一個管道因為這一條外環我看徵收應該也不是很困難所以這一條應該要好好的加速的來好不好三個禮拜已經在院核定了它的可行性評估 |
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目前部裡面會再做中規以及後續的這個環評當然希望照剛剛部長所說的2030年能夠來完成這個是我們先進的目標那個那個關稅那個我們沒辦法啦那個世襲萬變喔這比較實在啦我們已經已經核心性評估已經核定了一定這比較實在啦背信啦扶國立民比較重要來 接來繼續那這個是高鐵啦高鐵我在六塊處也跟 |
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因為最後定案是走高雄,這是院長你 |
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你拍板的嘛 走高雄火車站那個方案嘛回到原點嘛 從鳳山上來就變高架嘛鳳山之前是用地下嘛因為我在鄉中 所以我對這個很有感情那個高雄恰桃對我來說是美好的回憶好 那這個到六塊樹要2039年要走四年 那邊比較低的我們不夠 |
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因為它一定的程序它從決定高雄方案之後交通部現在已經成了一個工作的平台再來就要進行一個綜合的規劃再來還有二階的環評才會送到院裡面把整個完整的計畫來核定這要有一定的時間那因為這麼大的工程先前的準備工作還有這個程序都必須要嚴謹也必須要完成 |
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未來完成之後對大高雄地區、大南部地區,包括屏東,應該是非常好的一個未來生活圈的...事實上我們屏東的立委、民意代表跟屏東的鄉親,不是只要6塊錢而已,從隔壁站過來1.4公里,那條高鐵站到底要幹什麼? |
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我們希望能夠遵守嘛,保定你也說軌道是開啟的嘛,要接過去嘛我要跟院長報告就是說,2039年到六塊處,要到潮州不知道到2050年還是2060年,我們都死了 |
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到六塊座之後的延伸的想法現在交通部部長他也有一些準備的工作在準備那這個一定要進一步去規劃再進行 |
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首先跟委員報告您剛剛在關心的2039年這件事除了交通部的鐵道局現在有一個工作平台大家正在協商要加速之外我們陳金德政委在2月份也有開過會議針對這個延伸屏東案要怎麼樣加速所以這個時間我們希望在2039年之前可以往前再拉這個部分我們正在努力恆春觀光鐵道你這次去恆春部長你有講 |
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我要給你漏氣一下2016年林全做保定,做管理,做議定他說2016年要動工,2025年要完工,今天剛好2025年結果我前陣子又聽蘇貞昌院長說,那個案子出銷了嗎我現在又聽陳部長,你還在那裡說,你在鄉村又說喔我們所有的鄉親都聽到了,現在這到底是什麼 |
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報告委員林全院長當時答應後來因為一些行政上面的討論就稍微有停頓那我們現在又重新再開始來討論這個案子所以這個案子我們會繼續往前的推動這個公共鐵道從內思要到恆春是非常好但是後來評估又評估後來就完全連動都沒動所以這個 |
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部長你如果想要走你就要跟我請車觀光鐵道的部分不要再一次荒涼了目前我們從高雄到屏東這一段目前到仿遼這一段我們的觀光列車其實有藍皮捷二號也有環島之星正在跑那未來的延伸段的部分現在交通部正在研議我們要啟動來做這件事情因為我們恆春那邊的旅遊院長你可能不知道也從高雄坐海運 |
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這邊是新的到那個車程然後再搭車那個都失敗失敗都失敗因為不方便所以這個要好好的規劃那這個觀光鐵道是有亮點但是要不要做怎麼做要好好的規劃而且你只要宣布你就要幹啦你不要像上次林全講一講就啪啪啪好下一張 |
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今年是恆春建成150周年我看台南建成那個辦得非常好所以我們都非常期待今年2025年把恆春建成神保生建成到現在150年好好地幹一場院長你要全力支持喔可以嗎對於台灣這種文化的底氣我覺得如果各地都有一個自己的故事自己的特色每個鄉鎮每個城市都有這樣子有助於台灣整體觀光的發展 |
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這樣子的政策我想請交通部總觀光署一定要全力來跟地方來合作前幾天到考察的時候我們發現大鵬灣恆春半島的旅遊是下降的 |
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人數也下降所以這個是很血淋淋到處都在搶客人別的縣市也搶得台東也搶嘉義也搶所以沒有好好的規劃跟加重資源是嘴巴講講是沒有效的院長希望你敢講來下一張這個武力亭機場我要再提一下因為我到裡面去考察這個相片是我自己照的 |
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美國那個蜿蜒公司有來評估過還有縣政府的人我們到裡面去考察吳里庭機場是可以好好的規劃雖然有洛杉磅南北但是有一個東西向的陸航部的基地我們用了很大的心血那希望這個跑道長度一千八百公尺前後引道各兩百 |
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所以可以Z 彎流Z6500空氣的時候可以下降我研究過這樣所以普通 一定要這個好好來整理一下如果沒有 鄉村真的要整理會很困難我們希望大家用中央跟地方都一起來 好不好 |
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報告委員 這個機場因為涉及到天候還有它飛航安全的總統顧慮以及使用的人數一直在降低航班的人數在降低 所以要暫時停下來未來 除了剛剛委員所提的那個方向之外是不是朝向無人航空器的方向來做推動或者是委員講的輕載型航空機來推動能夠讓軍民來合用 |
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美國彎流公司它亞洲的商務客機有一千架一千架他們希望把那邊停把那邊都維修中心跟停的地方因為現在像郭台銘的飛機都停在馬力拉 |
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停在馬尼拉,中正機場沒地方停,上海也沒地方停,香港也沒地方停,都停在馬尼拉,他坐在馬尼拉開過,開到松山當他搭,所以沒有地方停,這個地方是可以發展的。 |
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那是哪,那是哪,那有環球公司的整個一年只有給我們政府的稅金50億以上喔50億以上如果他們有這樣子的意願可以來跟我們接洽,那我們來協助他們好,我找他們跟你們好好的來考察考察,好不好好,那部長請回我請經濟部長跟衛生部長,衛生部長請經濟部衛福部請備選 |
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部長好委員好你上次講的說我們台電的支出裡面很多都是石化顏料那我查了我們國際原物料還有價格在二五戰爭第一年漲得非常高第二年就開始降了 |
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燃料的部分不是只有石油化,還有其他的 |
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所以那個整個物價上漲都是表現在他的成本上面台電我跟他查了他一年的收入差不多七千多億他的支出是八千多億所以一年要虧空一千億左右是不是這樣我們幾乎這幾年都這樣 |
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我們台電的問題我想很多就是因為俄烏戰爭造成它有很多在成本上面上漲的原因但是在那段期間裡面我們所造成的虧損是由政府來希望能夠動漲這個電價不反映成本所以累積我們有那些虧損在 |
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是這個樣子,所以因為他的負債比較高,所以他要去借錢我看台電今年可以理解到他負三四八億嗎?2016年台電還有透探機,2017年還有彈,到2018年也有73億 |
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一直來一直來,到2022年,要求兩千多億台幣我去查,他真的是一年的收入差不多七千多支出要八千多億,這是事實因為收的錢就電價不能去,沒辦法反映成本我想這個委員你也很清楚,我的收入就是跟那些而已沒辦法反映成本 |
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但是八千多億現在是我的成本啦所以這會造成這個虧損這完全是沒辦法啦所以不知道說行政院有編兩千億要來給台電啦我要跟院長講喔來不是前面前面台電在2014年的時候還發給每一副的用戶880塊 |
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台電除了原物料燃油上漲之外台電近幾年來一直在做以氣換煤的電廠更新每一次電廠更新從原來的報價到最後完工 |
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那個工程費用都是翻倍在成長因為這是整個物價人工材料等等的上漲這個每個工程修正計畫裡面都是這樣子所以不只是原物料這個問題在過去在COVID-19時間它累積的負債是比較高所以它累積到今天我們想辦法用當時它因為補貼民生沒有漲電價的這個原因把它補貼回來撥補給台電 |
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前幾天我們AIT的處長他講說美國可以support我們的義太瓦斯、核能、新的核能等等等等,他們可以幫忙我們。 |
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那我也看到院長你的回應說只要有新的核能選項你不排除嘛我們對於開放的討論學習甚至一起來做有必要的研究都應該我看美國 Google Amazon他們都自己都像川普兩天前又說他開放你們自己去蓋電廠核電廠什麼都來了所以他們是很開放的態度我倒是希望說不要堅持 |
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一定要揮核什麼會讓人家覺得是這麼的MOSFET太老頑固了這不是我剛跟委員答覆過了能夠沒有安全的顧慮沒有核廢料而且大家都共識全民接受新的核能技術政府開放的態度來共同討論學習甚至研發這個核三長我企策要不然整座都不算了我非常非常關心因為核三長的員工真的是非常的 |
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純樸,非常的好,非常的認真,這個真的是我們國家的財產,我們的寶貝,在那裡找鄉村人,住在鄉村,退學後在那裡買民宿,你也鄉村人,你幫了人,當那些人,我還去你家的古厝看呢,結果沒人在那裡住,你家那裡沒人在住,只剩一些鄉親在住而已。我還沒九年年紀,我們幫了住的人都九十多以上,九十多以下, |
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我一定要說,河山場五百多公頃,好好的去規劃,好好的做,那個真的是非常好,非常可惜。如果有新的技術、新的核能、新的現象,應該那個地方好好做。 |
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那個地方我看也沒什麼問題。報告委員,現在是這樣的啦,現在我們的河山場的部分,以現行的河管法規定,我們的這條離岸是40噸啦,台電必須要遵照河岸會的規範去執行。 |
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1634.156 |
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我認為河山的二號機應過的燃料池空間是不足的所以沒辦法運電到60噸所以需要我們地方來支持興建乾燥的設施如果這些命題都可以來改觀我相信委員的支持和建議大家都可以來做參考 |
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1641.189 |
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1665.703 |
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大家都很用心,大家都很疼惜這塊土地,大家都很聰明,沒有笨蛋。所以你們在講的,你們在看的,我們都在看。我們那個吸收國外的資訊,世界一流的資訊,我們的速度也不會比你們慢。所以,相信我們的腦筋也不錯啦。好,我想要說醫療,莫丁你先回。 |
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1671.032 |
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1688.042 |
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時間有限,來,我要跟議長說,邱太元我做他三年的歷史就是做到這麼高的,所以我的配合很好,他也很認真,林靜雲、邱太元、石崇良,這段時間也表現得,他也要自己加油啦。 |
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1691.209 |
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1719.518 |
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我沒有在跟人家苛責,一句話就不辦,但是我們要知道,請一個點滴,明明沒有,但是那是衝傷出問題,你也不能把它放下去,所以一直在做,大家罵,罵歸罵,還是要做事啦,那現在台灣的問題就是人口老化太快,快到你沒辦法掌握,一下子非常嚴重,然後醫療量量的不足, |
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1720.98 |
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1748.491 |
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又加上這個火力啦 醫生啦 大家跑來跑去的那你生起來很多預算在做那我要跟你講一個就是我們台灣在急診室去急診的人分做一二三四五啦可能一定你不太知道一二級就是要站上去啦那要水 有藥卡的 有要急救的三級是普通普通四級五級是可以等的所有老人來齁 差不多三級來 |
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1749.963 |
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1777.028 |
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才三次來,他才有六、七次惡化病一、二次所以都放他進軍事院醫生也不可以讓他回去家屬也不可以讓他回去白人也不可以讓他回去所以問題就出在這裡所以在這裡醫療分子在台灣不成功不成功,真的不成功而且每一個人都很友好老人都孤,像我老婆96歲我們本來也孤到咪咪咪是怎樣 |
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1780.561 |
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1804.778 |
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所以這跟台灣形不太同所以我要跟部長講他很用心的在搞這個所以醫療、人力、空間、量能都非常的緊切那最後我要跟你講最後一張我要跟院長還是要跟你請求台灣的 |
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1806.368 |
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1835.199 |
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住宅區裡面的中型醫院尤其是社團法人跟私人醫院那裡碰到的空間不足還有容積力太低你上次跟我答應說你要通盤考慮有沒有醫院是一個無人生命健康最重要的地方所以它本身它必須要符合種種的安全法規那如果因為整體的檢討有必要做政治的調整的時候會不會自然 |
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1855.44 |
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1856.24 |
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接下來我們請范雲委員質詢圖全 |