| IVOD_ID |
160114 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/160114 |
| 日期 |
2025-04-10 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-19-8 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第8次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
8 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第8次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-04-10T12:39:01+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-04-10T12:50:40+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:11:39 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/127fafa562dc971221261c304d7efdfff11452c3877738ca1a30f584bceeba993ae7b583e42d3df95ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
邱志偉 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:39:01 - 12:50:40 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-04-10T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第8次全體委員會議（事由：邀請經濟部部長、農業部部長及財政部首長就「因應美國關税政策以維持我國農漁畜業及關鍵產業競爭力之協助措施」進行報告，並備質詢。） |
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謝謝主席有請經濟部賴次長還有農業部陳部長 |
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主要影響是農業部跟經濟部所以今天主題是對我國農漁序以及關鍵產業競爭力的相關的影響那當然這個川普當然他的是變動性的常態常態是個變動性變動性的常態也是常態是變動性就好像川劇變的一樣 |
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目不暇及 今天變成怎樣 但是明天又換另外一種臉彷彿這個川劇變臉 但是他的內心沒有變他的內心就是 他把那個臉 他不講你的真實臉孔在哪裡但是他的內心就是 讓美國再次偉大他的核心是美國的這個國家利益 對不對所以他是基本上 他是這個進攻型的這個現實主義者 |
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他主動出擊去爭取他的國家利益用強勢逼迫透過這種方式我覺得他已經達到初步的目的所以各國要怎麼樣去因應川普的關稅的政策我認為我國可以用不變應萬變什麼叫不變第一對內的部分一定要強化這個產業的競爭力 |
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你有競爭力你才有跟其他國家這個競爭的本錢不然你關稅制度調整你有競爭力一定是比其他國家更有機會所以要不斷的強化這個產業競爭力第二個我們這個賴總統不是提到這個均衡台灣嗎我們要均衡全球的貿易市場 |
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均衡全球貿易市場不要把所有的市場集中在特定國家比方說過去集中在中國 還是美國有一陣子是東協我覺得全球六大洲都是我們的主要市場沒有分什麼次要市場所以你要持續強化均衡全球貿易市場強化對國際的行銷 |
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另外一方面就是要全面透過這個時間 盤點當前農工相關產品的關稅政策是不是也不合時宜 是不是也有檢討的必要 這三個不變 |
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持續推動 持續加強這對內的部分是可操之在我們但是不可操之在我們是在在美國的這個關稅政策我剛剛所提到 川劇變臉幾乎常常每天這變動是一個常態所以我們強化是如何跟這個主要貿易國家的這個協商的機制跟談判人員的強化駐美 我們談判小組駐美的這個經濟組統有多少人 那個賴市長 |
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駐美經濟組的同仁,我去過,他們人蠻多的18個人,不只是美國,整個北美,所以我告訴你,18個人你要加強,像行政院有跨部會的這個因應小組,我希望你這個經濟部也要組成跨局處的這個因應小組 |
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國貿局、以前工業局、現在產發署相關的局處跟駐美經濟小組的同仁要保持一個密切的聯繫前線跟後勤能夠馬上得到這個訊息的無縫接軌同樣的農業部也要如此辦理 |
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包括你這個六項主要影響農業產品六項是主要影響的那六項總金額是多少錢蕭美總金額是多少錢六項加起來現在目前加起來六項加起來大概是五十多億五十多億嘛相對於比這個經濟部主管的相關的我們產業的金額相當比較小但是不是因為比較小我們就不重視 |
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但是我要強調就是說這個前線跟我們後行後線的這個協調機制非常重要所以怎麼樣派更多的紅人到這段時間去美國啊來協助怎麼樣去跟川普政府做更多的政策的協調磋商也好因為90天之後他是暫緩90天90天之後還不知道是不是90天之後如期上路 |
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還是會變 沒有人知道 只有川普知道但是我們做最壞的打算就是說如果九十天 三個月之後他要如期上路那我們還是要因應那九十天是黃金的九十天黃金的三個月你要把握這個時間去跟美國相關的部位包括他們農業部 包括他們的商務部包括跟白宮相關的經濟的閣員 |
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有更多的溝通 更多的協調在90天之內有一個進展讓美國可以接受我們做相關的政策的調整包括我們加強對美國的投資也要讓他們知道說投資哪些項目加強對美國的這個購買 |
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比方說對美國有哪些產品我們可以加強來對他們的購買來平衡對美國的貿易的這個順利差我們對他們的順差非常高所以因為順差高我們才被他認為是高關稅的國家嘛所以我們加強投資加強對美採購這個一定要在三十九十天之內確實到位 |
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品相經得都要清楚 當然也包括其他部會 包括我想能源也算是進一步吧 對不對包括天然氣的採購啦 包括相關的農產品的採購 也當然包括國防 |
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我覺得日本政府對這個因應我覺得還不錯從以前的這個歷任的這個這個首相對美國的貿易政策他們這個敏銳度非常高安倍 |
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安倍首相他跟美國的只要說稍微跟美國對這個日本貿易的這個有一些意見的時候安倍他就馬上立刻放下身上去談判透過加強的這個採購來把這個貿易的順差把它降下來得到美國的這個信任然後美日關係又變成一個很準同盟的關係 |
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另外一個極端例子就是這個中國中國對抗你看現在75國全部90天的暫緩對不對暫緩之後搞不好有這個談判的結果有談判的進度搞不好這些關稅又會再下降又會回到原來的水準所以我覺得這個是川普過去他的這個執政一貫的策略先用高壓高壓之後逼著你一定要去談判 |
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談判之後有一個好的結果也當成共識當然對雙方都是好的對他的美國的國家利益也是好的對台灣也不見之不好對貿易的對手國也不見之不好所以我說剛剛說對內的三個變對外我們要積極怎麼樣把握這次黃金三個月去跟美國建立起磋商的機制談判的這個具體成果這個很重要 |
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這個農業部有沒有相關的單位在美國我想農業部我們有農業組在那邊那其實特別是針對剛才委員所說的其實均能全權的貿易是非常重要的就是我們沒辦法依賴一個單一的國家所以我們在這一次的支持方案裡面我們其實也考慮到這個所以在這些相關的這些行銷面的部分除了美國市場以外我們也針對主要的目標市場也同步在啟動讓這些產品能夠有更多元的這些市場 |
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劇本不是我們寫的劇本是川普寫的但是我們要有因應劇本的相關的戰略你要想想看他可能會有哪些劇本過去說有這個李登輝總統說他掌握18套劇本對不對你們要設想到每一個scenario可能對台灣的產業衝擊對農業衝擊 |
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然後針對這些相關的影響我們去做對內的相關的協調也好或者是跟產業界座談也好對外要加強對這個溝通時間到了還有很多事情另外投資台灣三大方案這也是經濟部的業務 |
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我們希望說這一波的產業結構的調整這些全球供應鏈的重新的重組我希望有更多的這個核心關鍵產業能夠回來台灣但回來台灣你這個三大方案再延長到2027年對不對 那個市長 |
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這個部分我們已經有規劃了那院長也有表示那基本上我們會依照這個三大投資方案的這個部分就你剛剛所說的到2027的部分去做規劃這個如果這一波回來可能是關鍵的產業所以他們回來的中心反而是更高 |
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重要性更高所以我認為經濟部門要提供更好的EOE讓這些產業類重組的過程中願意來台灣再來投資回來台灣投資所以各國的經貿政策一定是以他的國家利益為主 |
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所以我們當然我們在規劃任何的這個經貿政策當然以台灣的國家利益為主產業政策的利益為主所以包括農民的利益為主我相信兩位包括陳部長包括剛剛郭部長也來還有賴市長我想這段時間執政團隊非常辛苦那我相信你們也做好準備只是說很多事情非超支在我們是超支在美方超支在川普政府但是我們這些所有劇本都要很清楚做盤點 |
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那我也提醒財政部理事長 |
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那個關稅啊 關稅你要怎麼利用這段時間做一些相關的全面盤點跟調整這個財政部有沒有相關的記錄因為關稅的調整主要還是要看這個產業主管機關他們對產業的這個影響評估啦那這部分財政部會來尊重主管機關評估的結果 |
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那相關主管機關也要針對各個品項的關稅目前是到底合不合理到底造成的順差對美國的影響有多大這個應該去盤點只要說主管機關做出相關的建議財政部都願意做調整嗎 |
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我們會經由這個主管機關做審慎評估因為他們會考量整個產業的這個發展還有就是會不會對台灣的就業造成影響或衝擊這個部分我們會尊重產業主管機關評估的意見我要特別謝謝史上這個最好的召委給我給我額外的幾分鐘謝謝你 |