| IVOD_ID |
160087 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/160087 |
| 日期 |
2025-04-10 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-19-8 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第8次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
8 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第8次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-04-10T11:17:30+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-04-10T11:32:50+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:15:20 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/127fafa562dc9712d1e8c3b6039936aff11452c3877738ca1a30f584bceeba996175e7c94f56e9555ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
陳超明 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:17:30 - 11:32:50 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-04-10T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第8次全體委員會議（事由：邀請經濟部部長、農業部部長及財政部首長就「因應美國關税政策以維持我國農漁畜業及關鍵產業競爭力之協助措施」進行報告，並備質詢。） |
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首先有請我們財政部我們的理事長好 請理事長理事長好首先我請教我們的理事長根據我們的資料顯示3月底我們的外匯存底是5780億美金 |
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那又根據報導我們投資在美國國債是92%等於是5200億美金那現在美國的國債是負債36兆美金一年的利息就要增加一兆多的美金那現在 |
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美國發起這個關稅債當然現在90千的款重啟出來了但是我請教你他會不會在這個關稅債裡面來跟我們談條件譬如3年的美國國債3個月的美國國債你幫我延遲3年10年的美國國債你幫我延遲20年30年的美國國債延到50年 |
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第二個可能他會跟你偷偷的暗中要求不要互利息你們會不會遭遇到這樣的情形 |
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包委因為當然談判的內容我們現在也不是很清楚那當然這個部分我沒有辦法在這邊回應沒有辦法在這邊講我是簡直來叫你要注意川普生意人他會算這個我看他主要的目的就在這個地方所以你們要有準備經濟部長帶著微笑表示他認同還有一點現在兩岸的關係非常的嚴峻 |
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兩邊一開戰的時候我們做五千七百億的美債外匯存頂萬一不像台灣失敗的話做五千七百億的那個我們的 |
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外匯成品到底是死於中華人民共和國還是台灣獨立國還是台灣民主國還是美利堅共和國會歸死到哪裡這個情形有可能發生你不要笑笑不做準備委員非常高瞻眼睛不是高瞻眼睛是未雨卓妙 |
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先退下之憂而憂 後退下之樂而樂我看這個情況也要特別注意啊當然這個問題不能深談啦但是點出來 特別注意一下私底下再跟你請教啦有可能發生 有可能發生好不好請回座然後我來請我們的農業部長請農業部長喂齁 陳部長好 |
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那我們現在談判我們賴總統我們執政黨提出零居關稅的談判阿美國是農業大國我現在請教你一個事實的問題我們從美國進口的農產品比我們銷到美國的農產品一年大概差多少我們是勝差還是逆差逆差28億逆差多少28億 |
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加起來28億我們黃豆什麼都進口我們從美國買的東西36.9億我們銷到美國的是8.9億所以逆差是28億我們怎麼會進口那麼少我們不是疫苗那些很多我講的是美金喔好那你在這樣的一個狀況之下 |
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你所有的農產品我們這邊是逆差它是差你最好不要調不然會害死我們台灣農民你們敢不敢這樣紀理立生這個是一個談判的條件我想雙方的這些關稅的談判一定是基於雙方互贏的方向我說我們用這個來談 |
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28.多億跟我們8.9億在那幾兆進出口裡面那個微微的毛毛移的那個好像是我們在推你們要堅持計算 |
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因為我現在先跟你講你開放聯機關稅不是對美國的問題台灣的地位你也曉得為了維持各個友邦的關係如果其他國家提出來跟美國一樣聯關稅稅金你要怎樣這個才是重點這個才是問題啊 |
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我想所有的關稅談判裡面喔其實不同的國家也是一樣喔農業它有它的特性所以農業本身的這些談判絕對不是說所有的品項都是零關稅我覺得台灣的農業之後在G7八年的執政政案下來會很慘第一個 精緻農業一定要堅持第二個 能量物理要做好 |
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第三個深層加工要做好其實世界很廣大台灣人很聰明可以調各種料理做出最好的料理你們要不要在這方面研究我覺得你要改進到這個地方你才有辦法我們台灣農業歷史世界不然你自己丟在這裡可以說自給自足而已不然你就自己丟在這裡自給自足就好 |
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如果你們這樣的作為沒有新的師的作為現在我去看了很多工廠做的加工的產業做的非常清楚非常好現在人不煮飯啦這裡面的小姐都不會煮也不會殺雞殺鴨殺鵝啊不像我們改變觀念改變思維台灣的農業才有救 |
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謝謝委員的建議 其實我們已經在做了很多農產品的加工加值其實它的加工效益會比較大像中東你要消氣 你要曉得它的外勞有多少哪一個地方的外勞 什麼口味去研究嘛因為我跑過那個地方 我曉得啦好不好 因為我要問郡主會長好不好 好好 請回座 |
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郭部長好我今天的主題我有一個吃中的朋友很要好他是順利死於台獨了而且每次總統選舉特地趕回來台灣可以請假一個月替你們自治黨服刑那他為什麼雖然我吃中好友他為什麼會支持我他說我最不像自治人物的政治人物 |
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那我今天他發給的內容我讀給你聽我也不曉得他發這個內容我覺得他思想改變了他跟我講因為美國已經沒有政治才使世界大失所望因為中國要強國而不是幸福大國那裡面川普說台積電是假通 |
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他住在偉大的美利均共和國那美國就是強盜盜的這他寫給我一個簡訊表示他們的憤怒台灣幾十年的辛辛苦苦捐起來的IC產業 |
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你曉得以前成衣外銷大概要一百個貨櫃才能換他一台戰車一個飛彈我們是趕空前去賺的他們在榮華富貴在享受他不會忘記這一切大事罷錢罷職那我以這個事情我要問你請教你幾個問題台積電很重要 |
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美國威脅說你台積電不來建廠我就100%的關稅那美國它只要要掌握40%的產量控制且限制台灣台積電以後未來的外銷它有限制在 |
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中國在美國上山 台灣現在上山 你要怎麼來應付被他限制的時時 用的地方會大概那幾個國家在使用他會去用 會在周邊的應用所以台灣的電子競 包括台積電在台灣何去何從 你有想到嗎我這點你要先研究一下那你們以前也信誓旦旦說台積電的NR中心一定會不會到美國 |
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人家大國啊,不用嘴巴講得很滿啊你們現在乖乖也是要過去以前在修理台積電核心的商業精密核心的技術都要給他你們現在都不敢講當時對台灣我們愛台灣的保障在哪裡?絕對不被研發中心精密資料不被給他乖乖的奉送給他們另外我還要請教你統一作黨這個要特別注意 |
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台積電跟英特爾 國安會 劉思維說柴油跟汽油不能混合那我也很奇怪 到底能不能混合因為這卡路里有托勞斯還是什麼安置在他也想要製造一個嗆艇養一隻老虎來去咬台積電 怕他萬一受打這你要去考慮一下不然台灣的企業行行口口白奉獻給別人 |
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再來我要跟你談到第三點埃及的成熟製品現在連電是世界第四大的他要跟那個美國什麼格羅荒 |
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什麼公司第五大要合併我看是有可能你們講不可能報紙都寫你要去談判你要好好談判第一大的已經被拿走了第二大又被拿走了台灣剩下什麼跟我講好好的講剩下什麼 |
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你們想來要知道,這臺灣的感恐你以前有那小企業一直做到現在一個算起來也是一個中大企業每一步每一步都是臺灣人辛苦流血流亡自己打造出來,窮苦了人家沒有人保護你,只有自力困難不要輕易把臺灣打造到現在你們就輕易放鬆給別人,不要危殆 |
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可以去忍受,就忍受,我就要跟你說所以你要記得台灣剩下什麼但是我說台灣的企業家就是游牧民主哪裡有回炒就完了,很可憐的不然你們八年的執政提了好幾個政策,我現在也在聽別的,還原台商回台投資行動方案 |
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690.988 |
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705.624 |
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恍恍惚惚,熱熱鬧鬧,確實很多台商回來了。第二個,更留台灣企業加速投資行動方案。再來,中小企業加速投資方案,這些人花了幾十萬在這裡,要搞台灣這塊工啊。 |
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709.104 |
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735.305 |
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要更留台灣喔蔡英文當總統的時候就推動南向政策鼓勵中國在大陸的台商往東南亞去走我今天再看就不錯我們的賴執政黨的賴子熙我們現在的賴總統說要偷中日本我們要順化經貿 |
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753.274 |
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以美意取轉型,又以自由經濟的實力,立足台灣,步及全球,形成全球的台灣,再機適以人才相互依賴。但是我總得要強調,總值趨勢很厲害, |
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760.205 |
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770.619 |
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歐美的白種人永遠看不起黃種人我要跟你講這根深蒂固除了日本人以外他稍微不起勢仔細站起來 |
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798.984 |
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他把中國大陸講鄉巴佬台灣是不是鄉巴佬你去別人找才不會去別人找各種文化有很多不一樣我現在懷疑你們是把台灣這隻羊送入到那白種人歐美的虎口裡面我們自己做什麼台灣的外交關係能保護多少台商你講我們都心知肚明 |
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825.335 |
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站起來我就不講多,你也不用回答,我把我心中的感受跟你講順滋順滋台灣這塊土地搞得好,不像你的執政黨,東西南北都要遊牧民族變民搞得現在都不曉,感染要感染一個方向哪邊有草可以吃都是你們提出來八年時間的變化東西南北征戰 |
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844.648 |
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台商都到現在一無所有倒是在水深火熱在掙扎之中他賺的外匯是離不來台灣你們真的要好好愛惜這塊土地那我跟你講中小企業會變成一個痛苦區然後我跟台積電幾個高階主管 |
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862.519 |
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痛苦期就要磨練自己技術要磨要深化提升它的價值在中小企業大量的就中小企業如果台灣沒有留住中小企業就沒有未來台灣中小企業 |
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是真的是跟佔了70部分就業人口大企業你不要去管他現在錢多多你反而要照顧中小企業他自取生路已經有國際的成本主席站了那麼久 |
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我坐下來一談到執政團他就站起來了我是真心的為台灣我是蔣經營人謝謝委員的提示不是提示啦 感受遠深啦你可能平反時我們會更獲取更大的利益那一段來過我們有技術本領嘛我們獨一無二嘛 |
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這台電我相信你自己能感受得到台灣在助力更生助力成長的過程我們是驕傲的台灣但是不要被執政黨出賣掉謝謝 |