| IVOD_ID |
160081 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/160081 |
| 日期 |
2025-04-10 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-35-7 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期外交及國防委員會第7次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
7 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
35 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
外交及國防委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期外交及國防委員會第7次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-04-10T11:04:01+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-04-10T11:15:12+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:11:11 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/127fafa562dc9712628a0c965ec3708ef9600c3f6b437ac21a30f584bceeba99d2cd062b3136c4615ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
楊瓊瓔 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:04:01 - 11:15:12 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-04-10T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期外交及國防委員會第7次全體委員會議（事由：邀請外交部部長、經濟部次長、大陸委員會副主任委員、財政部次長、國家發展委員會副主任委員、行政院經貿談判辦公室副總談判代表、中央銀行副總裁報告「美國開啟全球貿易制裁及與中共競合下，我外交經貿戰略佈局及因應」，並備質詢。） |
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我們來討論美國對等關稅政策峰迴路轉川普在9日宣布暫緩對等關稅90天 |
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期間對於貿易夥伴的部分全面來施行10%的關稅但是我們也不能掉以輕心因為訊息萬變政府應該要更積極的來應對總統也宣布了由行政院副院長來領軍的關稅談判小組其中裡面包括我們整個國安體系、外交體系、經貿、辦公室等 |
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政府也持續說透過各種的方案以及管道來做溝通所以本期要請教昨天國發會主委在經濟委員會他說了他說我們是優先的剛剛經濟部部長郭部長在經濟委員會我跟他的詢問當中他說我們是列在第一波那我們看到鄰近國家日韓不管是見面或者通電話都已經上入ING了 |
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那所以首先在這邊請教,我們什麼時候會談?是,那麼我們掌握所有的管道把訊息做充分的溝通那麼跟委員報告,我們現在就像這個已經說了就是說我們已經掛了號,那麼就是由美國來按照他的這個時程跟他對於這個,我們會爭取 |
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那麼爭取的兩個東西就是第一個是說我們的整個的談判的內容必須要齊備那麼第二個是說那麼也要跟美國隨時保持信任那我要跟這個委員說明一下我們現在這個駐美代表處透過所有的管道包括國會包括智庫包括這個對於川普總統的影響力請告訴本席提問是說我也將郭部長所說的我們是列在第一波 |
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國發會主委告訴我們的是我們是優先那我們呢我們在這90天內我們會在30天內談嗎因為川普的次子艾瑞克他說了他在社群平台上面發文他說我絕對不會想要當最後一個跟川普 |
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這個協商的國家因為第一個來談判的就是贏家最後一個是輸家當然社群上面的所說明也不代表美國的官方但是一定是越早談對我們越好所以請教市長我們在這樣的一個條件之下那我們的這個台美又是非常的友好我們會在30天內慘嗎 |
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這個我們沒有辦法做保證那麼要看看這個對方掌握的這個情況談判辦公室來謝謝談判辦公室謝謝委員我們會在30天內談嗎就誠如郭部長說的我們是第一波誠如劉主委說的我們是優先請說明 |
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我想我們就是努力爭取那我覺得對台灣來說我們知己知彼知友都是我們現在在等待的過程就是我們實際上在觀察其他國家去跟美國現在談判的一個過程實際上也是協助台灣來準備所以我覺得不論是 |
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我想你們兩位今天代表來到立法院答詢那就是非常重要在這一次談判當中的重要的重中之重我們也希望因為產業很緊張我們的農業也很緊張在這種情況之下我們希望能夠盡速來談這是人民的心聲我們不希望聽到的都是 |
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沒有答案的那我們真的非常希望大家加油好好的來幫助我們自己的國內產業以及我們的人民所以接下來本席要請教今天在報告書當中我們也擴大對美國的投資讓台美經貿合作更加的密切來提升台灣經貿戰略的地位那我們也 |
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看到你們的報告除了台積電對美債投資至少一千億美元之外台灣的企業也響應美國商務部所舉辦的選擇美國投資高峰會那外交部也跟相關的單位產業來協助來瞭解要怎麼樣赴美來投資所以本席要請教經濟部也在這裡那請教外交部跟經濟部政府所組的台灣投資美國 |
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剛剛在經濟委員會當中我們也跟部長充分來討論那麼也針對了總統在外媒當中所說的我們針對哪一些項目那郭部長也回答對 我們就是朝這個方向的項目去做所以本席要請教重點是不是在半導體跟ICT產業是不是如此 |
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但是我們也希望在國內的產業我們究竟是要怎麼樣能夠維護我們的根基能夠穩定下來我想這個也是在你們談判的過程當中保障國內產業也是非常的重要所以請教是不是朝總統先生所說的這個方向在外媒他的投書上面所說的來請 |
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是 那總統今天在這個Bloomberg上面所發表的這個台灣的這個路徑圖那正是我們所要進行的跟美方的這個談判的策略包括投資 包括採購那跟委員報告所以項目方向大概就是 |
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這個這些項目基本上面是這些項目但是不只限於這些項目比如說有關於半導體就是台積電這個承諾的這個1000億美金加上之前已經開始投產的這個650億美金再加上這個其他的這個SelectUSA上面可能有很多的這個ITC產業會過去但是也要 |
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包括所謂的我們在這個中油跟這個阿拉斯加已經簽訂了這個意向書那麼關於他們有關於這個天然氣管的這個投資案那這些東西都是對於台灣非常重要的包括說天然氣這是增加台灣的能源韌性包括對於台積電包括ITC產業其實一定程度上是我們要來就近客戶我們的大量採購有將天然氣呢要這個 |
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這個達到大概三成左右剛剛這個經濟部也應許了也說大概是這個方向那同時包括了這個能源的方向呢還有很多其他的能源也包括的能源新技術所以我要請教經濟部 |
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也就是所謂的能源新技術是包括了核電嗎請教報告委員因為現在技術的發展這個核電它現在是有在進步所以我們如果是要有採購核能相關的產品必須要有三個原則第一個就是要去確保核能的安全第二個 |
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要核廢料的處置一定要完善第三個最重要的就是必須要有全民的共識這三點的基本原則是一定要掌握住的但是我們是持一個開放的態度來進行討論 |
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一個開放的態度這是我們這一段時間這一兩個月來聽到的政府告訴我們在新人員的這個新技術裡頭我們是採開放的那所以接下來本席要請教原本的32%讓大家就是繃緊了神經那總統也喊出了五項的這個策略因應那麼也喊出了比照美墨加那個自貿協定 |
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那也就是說我們從零關稅開始來談但是本想要請教外交部跟我們的經貿辦我們會朝FTA或者是BTA還是單純由我們自己主動來降關稅來談呢因為我們知道 |
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有學者就指出了川普上議院的時候他就不談FTA所以如果想要在這個架構上去談降關稅似乎不是很可能但是也不是不可能因為現在千變萬化但是郭部長昨天也特別表示會朝這個方向他也說機率高不高他沒有辦法去做決定 |
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所以我們在蔡總統的時候她也以這個方向但是我們萊豬進來了我們還是得不到什麼所以在這樣的一個情況之下想要請教辦公室跟外交部我們現在談判的方向 |
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到底是什麼呢請說謝謝委員那我想我們基本上就是從零關稅開始談那現在台灣出口到美國有76%零關稅美國到台灣則62%零關稅所以我們就是從這個基礎往上去討論探討哪一些產品可以逐步的去擴大我們零關稅 |
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的範圍那目的就是要去降低我們的貿易利差以及降低我們對等關稅的稅率所以這個不論是採取哪一種的經貿協定的模式那我想這個都是我們要去跟美國協商的方向結果想要去平衡這個均衡嘛那請教會專部 |
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貿易談判主要是由OTM來負責但是外交部的這個策略已經全面配合第二個是說我們的首要的目標當然是要減低我們的關稅那麼第二個是說在這個上面是不是能夠把這個制度化台美的雙邊貿易的關係能夠制度化 |
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所以再包括您所提到的FTA啦Bilateral Trade Agreement等等的這些東西我想都是在我們談判的這個目標之一但是能夠達到多少就看是雙方的這個談判的具體的這個結果多少的選項因為是多元那所以本席給一個答案國內的產業務必能夠要保障國內的農業 |
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以及國內的食安是在你們談判當中非常重要的必要因子的一個保障這是本席語重心長的來建議你們我們希望台灣是一個好的國家我們務必一定要好好的保障我們的人民謝謝 |