| IVOD_ID |
160041 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/160041 |
| 日期 |
2025-04-10 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-20-7 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期財政委員會第7次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
7 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期財政委員會第7次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-04-10T09:31:02+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-04-10T09:43:23+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:12:21 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/127fafa562dc9712bb4aa13f7b33d84739fb4699fde53261dffdecc4c49be5a704779979c8b02f845ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
林德福 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:31:02 - 09:43:23 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-04-10T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期財政委員會第7次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請中央銀行楊總裁金龍、金融監督管理委員會彭主任委員金隆、行政院主計總處陳主計長淑姿、財政部莊部長翠雲、經濟部郭部長智輝、農業部陳部長駿季就「川普對等關稅政策實施，對我國股匯市、經濟成長、物價、房市等項所造成之衝擊與因應措施」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
二、審查「納稅者權利保護法」4案：
(一)本院委員賴士葆等22人擬具「納稅者權利保護法部分條文修正草案」案。
(二)本院委員羅廷瑋等18人擬具「納稅者權利保護法第四條條文修正草案」案。
(三)本院委員林思銘等20人擬具「納稅者權利保護法第七條及第二十一條條文修正草案」案。
(四)本院委員林思銘等18人擬具「納稅者權利保護法第二十一條條文修正草案」案。
三、審查「加值型及非加值型營業稅法」9案：
(一) 本院委員鍾佳濱等18人、委員鍾佳濱等23人、委員郭國文等17人、委員吳沛憶等18人分別擬具「加值型及非加值型營業稅法部分條文修正草案」等4案。【本院委員吳沛憶等18人提案如經院會復議，則不予審查】
(二) 本院委員陳超明等18人、委員邱志偉等16人分別擬具「加值型及非加值型營業稅法第八條條文修正草案」等2案。
(三) 本院委員賴士葆等25人、委員顏寬恒等16人分別擬具「加值型及非加值型營業稅法第十三條條文修正草案」等2案。
(四) 本院委員賴士葆等22人擬具「加值型及非加值型營業稅法第五十八條條文修正草案」案。） |
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謝謝主席一位各部會首長還有各位同仁我們是不是我特別來邀請這個中央銀行楊總裁 |
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林委員早總裁你好我請教雖然川普昨天又宣布對於未報復美國的這些國家關稅措施暫緩90天的實施但針對川普關稅政策對我國股匯市以及經濟成長物價包括房市所造成的衝擊與因應的措施我請問總裁 |
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對於川普關稅政策我國各層面帶來的衝擊你認為影響是一時的還是有可能遞延的影響 |
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包委員這個就是說90天的這個觀察期這個舒緩的就是說他一開始對整個全球的影響但是這30天呢這個90天呢還必須要觀察所以就是說如果說這個這個不確定性還是依然的揮之不去還是存在他還是會存在那個莊財是那你認為這個 |
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會不會有可能這個地緣的影響又或者相互間會產生一些連動的效應會不會當然啦就是說剛剛也就是說如果這個不確定性的因素沒辦法消除的時候呢那麼這個影響就會一直遞延下去那這樣的話呢就事實上對整個全聯來講的話他的金融市場的一個波動度呢還是會還是會有總裁 |
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因為本席這個憂心的是這個基於受衝擊的是全球各大經濟體所以說影響時間長效應深遠那請問你認為會不會發生全球關稅戰會不會現在看起來就是說有一些的國家要去跟他談 |
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當然我在想這是我個人的看法就是說川普也知道就是說這一次的這個一開始的那個衝擊是非常大的所以應該就是說他在談判上應該會比較鬆一點但是至於對於那些就是說要跟他硬碰硬的這個還是會造成整個全球的一個經貿的影響 |
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而且是對岸中國你看他中國也是很硬喔是喔是喔是喔那不但這個不跟他談甚至於還也給美國加很大很大的關稅那因為以目前我們整個政府的因應措施九大面向二十項的措施總經費880億的協助方案你認為是不是足以來應付川普關稅政策帶給台灣的衝擊 |
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這個是我個人的看法啦我不能代表行政院來回答這個問題當然880億是現在的一個評估那現在就是說要一段期間之後還要再評估他這個880億是不是足夠 |
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如果說他的一個影響是很大他的衝擊是很大的話那恐怕這個金額還是要加大因為以你中央銀行專業的立場應該你是可以就是比較深入啦謝謝你鼓勵川普暫緩90天的實施新關稅你認為政府因應措施是不是也會有一些遞言的實施遞言效果的實施 |
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應該 我想呢 也應該要就未雨綢繆啊那所以就是說 雖然這三個月的時間可以再有一個密切的一個觀察不過呢 我總覺得提早準備是更好對啊 你要做充分的準備啊請問總裁 這次國安基金的進場你認為護盤基金需要多少嗎 |
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因為以前富盤基金說5000億不過市場有一些建議希望5000億能夠擴大不過如果說我們來看待我們的股市它的市值確實 |
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它是增加了將近是增加是很多的那你等於是賦水休息嘛那這個可以評估這個可以考慮不過這個是國安基金它本身要那你認為護盤的時間會不會比以前更久 |
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這個我沒辦法來預測這個我沒辦法預測總裁因為川普關稅政策的效應你認為會不會讓我們整個台灣股市提前走入熊市會不會現在目前還是那個uncertainty就是他的不確定性真的還是非常的高所以我們現在如果說要做一個很 |
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很直接的就是說下一個判斷說實在是言之過早那個總裁因為這種面對關稅政策的股市反應到底是這個人造熊市的短期現象還是會加速來催化 |
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整個台股啊走入空頭市場的前奏曲一鳴看所以還是在強調的就是說這個不確定性不確定性還是在強調這個不確定性如果說這個不確定性可以把它排除掉的時候呢我覺得啊應該股市他是還是會回歸到他的基本面總裁 |
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你曾說你對從對等關稅的角度來看台灣應該不在其中就算台灣對美順差大也因台美是互補的關係所以這個不是不公平這個貿易那我請問總裁是所以你對台美貿易的互補關係的看法對照美國對台灣科 |
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32%的關稅的決定請問到底是我們誤解台美關係還是美國根本就是吃定了我們你認為呢 吃定了台灣我認為他也不是單獨就台灣來就是說吃定了我們台灣只是說他的一個公式呢他的不合理性是適用所有的國家 |
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適用所有的國家所以我們也不能說他單獨對我們因為他的這個公式是太過粗劣了太過粗劣不是粗劣 粗暴對 應該是說粗暴太過粗暴了所以也不是說他只是針對台灣來那主要的就是說因為台灣對他的貿易順差是大了但是他都沒有考慮到台灣的這個對他的順差事實上是他需要我們的產品 |
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沒有 我們什麼都給人家的啊我們產品對它的生產力是有貢獻的也就是說我們台灣對它的一個共識是蠻大的我們產品對它的經濟的生產力是很有貢獻的現在最嚴重就是我們沒有籌碼跟人家談 |
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你認不認同因為你的戲隊我們台積電已經說要去那裡設廠那些衛星工廠也跟著都去甚至於啊他把其他的一些有關IC的產業全部都要過去你說未來我們是剩什麼對不對總裁針對川普的 |
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關稅政策請問總裁你認為川普真的是以對等關稅來作為出發點的決定如果是以賴總統回應川普不採取關稅報復從零關稅談起的立場台美之間能夠站在實質公平的立足點來談判協商嗎你認為呢 |
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我想這個是雙方啦雙方當然就是說要對等的話呢就必須要去好好的談那當然要去好好的談那這個呢彼此會互相更了解所以你看我想應該就是說各個國家去跟他談的話應該會有效果這是我個人的猜測但願如此啦總裁如果川普 |
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關稅政策是手段公平貿易是政策合法性的包裝最終目的是在其他方面請問你認為台灣要怎麼去面對這種不確定性的政策呢所以唯一的途徑還是就是說去跟他好好的談 |
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這是唯一的途徑總裁本席任何大多數人都不樂見好不容易慢慢互輸的疫後經濟又轉壞但是川普政策的不確定性的負面影響恐怕比較大 |
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那最近啦 台經院也公布二月景氣動向調查後張建義院長表示以對等關稅或是貿易量貿易順差來看台灣可能是汽車啦 農業產品影響較大那總裁 如果農產品關稅影響大請問你認為會不會對國內進出口農產品的價格產生這個聯乙的效應 |
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我想如果說是農業產品的話可能是會啦但是就是說這個也就是說如果說對這些的產業有發生比較大的損失的時候我覺得政府也可以考量到要做某些的一個補償 |
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那如果會的話你認為今年的CPI還有CCPI是不是會出現上修的空間會不會到目前為止我們還是認為我們的物價還是會穩定的會穩定總裁根據美國財經媒體彭博模型的推估一旦對台灣課徵32%的關稅台灣對美出口將減少 |
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約63%大約會讓GDP縮減3.8%那我請問總裁你認為彭博模型是高估還是低估整個關稅對台灣GDP萎縮的影響我想彭博的這個我總覺得是他可能是用很 |
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很悲觀的一個情境很悲觀的情境但是呢就誠如我們的報告所說的到目前為止呢這都是僅供參考而已啦因為後續還有談判啊什麼之類的所以這個就是還有一點就是主攻參考啦 |
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只供參考總裁請問你認為我們政府需不需要調整整個政策方向換句話說新南向國家萬一受關稅關稅戰的影響政府會不會調整既定的政策計畫會不會我想台灣是一個是一個小型開放的經濟體我們國際化還是要國際化的國際化還是國際化但是這一次的關稅的政策 |
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因為他的一個供應鏈的一個場所呢還是會做一些某些的調整所以還是會調整對啦事前要防範啦要做多元啦怎麼去杜絕防範好謝謝 |