| IVOD_ID |
160037 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/160037 |
| 日期 |
2025-04-10 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-19-8 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第8次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
8 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第8次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-04-10T09:32:08+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-04-10T09:42:08+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:00 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/127fafa562dc971205ce0a18a6f0e097f11452c3877738cadffdecc4c49be5a776d6fe535e5dfa9f5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
邱議瑩 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:32:08 - 09:42:08 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-04-10T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第8次全體委員會議（事由：邀請經濟部部長、農業部部長及財政部首長就「因應美國關税政策以維持我國農漁畜業及關鍵產業競爭力之協助措施」進行報告，並備質詢。） |
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謝謝主席我是不是請一下郭部長還有陳部長好請郭部長跟陳部長兩位部長早請問一下兩位部長昨天晚上有沒有睡覺昨天有沒有睡覺有啊那你們是什麼時候掌握到這個川普總統的政策轉變這件事情 |
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我們很快就因為他是在臺灣的凌晨發布的嘛所以你們的所謂很快是大概幾點的時候掌握我是早上五點早上五點那陳部長呢大概六點左右好那所以你們兩位的這個報告因為我相信你們昨天準備的報告應該跟今天早上的是不太一樣的嘛剛剛我看經濟部的同仁很辛苦啊還在更改這個今天要來做業務報告的內容就是說 |
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我特別問這個事情是川普總統在4月9號臨時又更改了他的這個關稅的政策現在的關稅政策全世界各國大概有70幾國是調降到10但中國的稅率增加到125%這個對全世界的經濟又引起很大的變化我看今天的台股已經漲了現在是漲了多少點 |
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一千多點了所以那個整個變化是非常的大我要請教兩位的就是說剛剛經濟部也特別談到了這一些現在的九十天啊我們其實無法預測川普什麼時候會再改變他現在跟大家說這個關稅將到時為期九十天不知道什麼時候會再改變但是對中國的稅率增加到百分之一百二十五這件事情 |
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我覺得他很有可能還會再改變他的改變很有可能會再提高那經濟部對於這個90天的暫緩期我認為不是對經濟部或者是農業部來講他不是鬆一口氣而是你們應該要更加的滾動式檢討比如說我的推測會不會再引發另外一波的台商回流潮 |
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部長您的看法是什麼報告委員我想這就在我們的推論之內啦所以你們經濟部也做了這樣的推論就認為很可能會引發另外一波新一波的台商回流潮這個我們因為在過去啊就針對這個飛鴻供應鏈有提出一些這個基本假設並沒有在這個關稅之前 |
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那所以我們其實都有把這個命題我們有經過一些推論那我們現在是要加速來了解在中國的台商他們如何在這90天裡面能夠移動他們能夠移動對他們來講或者他們在中國的台商他只是在服務的這個客人都在這個中國或者是跟中國友好的國家 |
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那這個部分我們就不協助他不是說不協助他就長遠我們還是要協助他因為他畢竟是我們的國人那國人的產業是關心國人產業協助他們發展協助他們未來有競爭力我們優先是他們如果產品是出口到美國的我們協助他移轉生產基地 |
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所以我想這個部分可能經濟部未來的工作不會是只有了解國內的產業對於本來我們昨天以前談的是川普總統科徵32%的關稅所以對於產業造成的影響現在我們要關心的是如果是現在這個狀態有可能更多我們的台商會需要政府更多的協助讓他就像剛剛部長您所說的轉移 |
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他的這個產區所以這個部分可能要請經濟部這邊也要隨時密切的掌控昨天你們說滾動是檢討我看這個滾動還滾動的蠻快的一夜之間就變化很多來部長那您那個郭部長您請回我先要請教農業的部分這個陳部長昨天下午我們在前陣的這個漁港談到了養殖漁業對於這個農業的衝擊這關稅對養殖漁業的衝擊 |
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那其實我們看到台美的這個農產的貿易概況這個逆超大概是達到28億元其實我們比較擔心就是說現在關稅到時大幅下降了之後其實農業部提出了很多的三大面向六大措施那這個東西 |
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其實過去本來就一直在做或者是說做的力道沒有那麼大那現在面臨到這樣子一個關稅的調整是不是農業部應該要更往前更往前瞻的方向去走其實面對到的我想 |
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農業的衝擊其實應該相對是最大的比如說我們談到毛豆美國目前對毛豆的科稅其實只有3.8%那川普總統這個宣布未來毛豆的科稅是10% |
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你這個造成的衝擊政府應該如何因應我一次把它問完然後再讓你一併回答然後像稻米如果我們把美國米的這個零關稅放進來的話那台灣米的競爭力就會完全不見了所以對於台灣稻米的衝擊相對來講是高的 |
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那農業部有沒有什麼因應的措施我就這兩個問題請部長您回答好不好第一個部分是有關於整個產業支持的部分那剛才委員講的的確我們有一些措施是過去就有的去做個某個程度的延續但是這些措施其實都是在跟產業在對談裡面以後所得到的所以不管他的措施是舊的還是新的只要對產業好我們都會去執行 |
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那有一個非常重要的就是在這次的不同的關稅的一個情況之下對中國的關稅提得高的時候其實對我們來講是一種機會特別是在美國的這些產地有很多像毛豆像吳國瑜其實都是中國為大宗的輸出國這個時候其實我們可以用更好的新的佈局去搶光這個美國市場所以後續我想我們會從這個方向去協助他們 |
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更去加速美國的相關的一個佈局這是第一個部分第二個部分是接下來可能會談的關稅的部分那我要跟委員報告就是糧食的一個供應是確保我們糧食安全的一個非常重要的農業部的責任所以 |
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以目前為止我們現在美國所關切的是我們的關稅政府購買的稻米大概有9萬4千多噸裡面有6萬4千多噸是來自於美國的他是希望我們底價能夠更透明 |
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那這個部分我想我們在根據政府採購法裡面是可以先公告底價然後價低者得這個是可以調整的但是水那個倒數本身我想我們絕對就會堅守不會讓美國的關稅就是這個關稅降低因為 |
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總統也講過了是從零開始談他不是說全部都是降到零針對農產品的部分院長跟總統也強調農民優先所以這個部分我們會確保所以我們的零關稅的部分對於農產農漁產的部分其實我們還是有採守一個底線他應該不會是從零開始所以他應該還是會有一個底線是這樣嗎 |
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是這樣子的就是農業的部分我想主要的會影響到我們農民權益的會影響到我們產業發展的我們都會去堅持他有必須有適當的關稅去來做一個相關的硬的確保糧食安全這個部分其實部長這個農業跟工業其實很大的不同比如說你說工業螺絲如果今天沒有單他就停下來 |
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但是他停下來他可以減少Maybe他可以減少一些損失可是你養魚 種菜 種米 |
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你剩下的就是剩下 棄下的就是棄下不是說我今天沒棄他就停下來他就不長大所以對於農業的整體的影響我認為會相對的他的觀察期可能是要比較長一點所以我們在對於農業政策的調整上面我認為農業部其實也應該可以加快腳步去做這個台灣的整體的農業外銷的佈局 |
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過去我們有好幾次的經驗因為中國突然喊卡不買石斑不買鳳梨不買什麼我們可以自己內銷去做調整但是你現在面臨到的是外銷到美國去或者是一個全球的農產佈局我想這個部分也考驗到農業部的危機應變處理跟我們在整體農業轉型上面我們其實應該要下更多的工夫 |
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去做所以我其實還是支持你們剛剛提到的這幾大面向但是我認為那個錢還是遠遠不足啦假如可以的話我希望能夠把那個經費增加把整個做大讓台灣的農業發展能夠更健全這個是我比較期待農業部能夠去做到的部分好嗎好非常謝謝委員的提醒我想我們會針對整個整體的這些佈局會有一個更積極的一個去討論好謝謝 |