| IVOD_ID |
159995 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/159995 |
| 日期 |
2025-04-09 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-19-7 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第7次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
7 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第7次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-04-09T12:20:25+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-04-09T12:28:25+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:00 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/984603a5a250cdce990ec624c5a343c5a0ce932bdb5123482eb6e21b32d8c6bec9b4925af52c8bb35ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
鍾佳濱 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:20:25 - 12:28:25 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-04-09T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第7次全體委員會議（事由：邀請經濟部部長及國家發展委員會主任委員就「國際經貿情勢變化，提出協助國內傳統產業及中小企業因應之對策」進行報告，並備質詢。） |
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主席 在場的委員 現屆列席的政府機關首長 官員 會長 工作夥伴 媒體 記者 女士先生有請郭部長跟劉主委郭部長 劉主委 |
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委員好 部長好 主委好兩位都是經貿財政的專家 容我班門弄斧今天我的題目是台灣要擴大對美採購 要降低美國對台的貿易逆差而且要嚴防中國起產地 避免遭美國圍堵我來先表述一下大家這幾天緊張的事情請問部長你認為川普總統 美國總統他要解決什麼問題他最念之再之的是什麼 |
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報告委員我想他解決三個問題但是念之再之的是他的這個金融失控的問題是 |
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然後呢然後再來就是貿易失衡的問題第三個解決製造空中化的問題很好大概跟我的很接近我覺得他要解決美國的赤字哪兩種赤字貿易赤字跟財政赤字貿易赤字主要來源是包括中國在內的不對等貿易就是逆差財政赤字他要削減政府支出要增加財政收入我這樣講劉主委認為有沒有符合川普的目前的想法 |
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有的 好 我們來看還有他解決他目前這個中低階階的解決機會是 很好 那製造他就會往下看來 川普開出各國不等的關稅清單目的是什麼大家都不合理啊部長你覺得他的目的是什麼 |
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一句話他的目的他的目的就叫你繳關稅啊我覺得不是這樣他要你上談判桌因為不合理嘛所以你會跟他argue嘛所以你要上談判桌但是談判的目的是什麼呢兩個目的第一他要維持對中國的高關稅第二他希望他的貿易主要對手友邦他建立一個零關稅的自由貿易同盟來對抗中國你認為我這個推測合理嗎 劉主委 |
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我想這是一個選項之一但是我很樂觀的認為他不是要跟其他的貿易對手課高關稅他是要叫你調低零關稅我就跟你成為一個零關稅的自由貿易同盟然後我們都對中國圍堵好往下看如果零關稅同盟圍堵中國產生什麼結果呢第一本來消亡美國的中國貨被同盟國取代因為中國高關稅嘛 |
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本來很有競爭力的 現在呢 盟國是零關稅所以盟國就取代銷往美國的中國貨 是不是這樣子 部長可以這樣的 這個方向來討論但是同樣的 中國也對你美國高關稅啊所以美國貨銷不到同盟國去 它要銷給誰銷給零關稅的同盟國嘛 是不是這樣子 |
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我們都是零關稅的同盟,所以他賣給我們,好,往下看所以美國輸台,如果是零關稅,能改善美國的貿易逆差嗎?有兩個可能一個是有的產品會啊,真的零關稅之後我們就跟美國買啊部長是不是這樣?什麼會跟美國買?主委你覺得哪個會跟美國買?零關稅後會有一些產品的確我直接跟你講,我來自農業圈,我們很擔心的,農產品 |
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黃小玉啊這些牛奶乳製品啊還有什麼還有這些其他的美國的出口大宗那我們要因應產業衝擊明天會問農業部但是有的產品不會什麼產品不會我請教一下美國車跟日本車都零關稅你覺得國人會買美國車還是日本車我直接講好了我想很多人都會選擇還是買日本車所以零關稅也不見得能解決美國銷台的輸售問題就要擴大採購往下看 |
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所以我在3月17號就建議要加大對美的採購其實最美採購的大家第一宗就是什麼 能源嘛所以部長 現在我們台電跟台灣中油是不是有擴大要跟美國採購天然氣有可能沒有 有可能 好 很好但是為什麼台灣過去不買呢因為跟澳洲買比較便宜啊 至少運匯便宜啊運匯跟關稅有沒有關係 沒有關係啊就算零關稅 我跟澳洲買運匯便宜啊 跟美國買運匯貴 |
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成本會提高 應經部要不要因應台電買比較貴的電纜器又不影響電價經濟部要不要因應 部長要不要因應這一部分我想我們會擴大評估啦從成本的概念 從時間的方面都可以評估好 下一頁但是 好啦 我們解決了對美擴大採購問題之後日月南都降到零關稅了 為什麼美國認為還不夠 |
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部長你覺得呢他這裡面有很多就是國家補助啊國家補助還有一個最重要的如果越南跟美國之間是零關稅但是越南跟中國也是零關稅中國就洗越南的產地去美國啊有沒有辦法防堵 |
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美國要防堵中國有沒有辦法防堵 不行除了我們之間彼此零關稅你越南要跟中國要建立一個關稅壁壘或非關稅壁壘 是不是這樣子你點頭嘛 往下看所以說台灣也要擔心美國我相信我們可以跟美國彼此零關稅這個希望可能很高但是當我們跟美國零關稅美國還是會把舊金金在卡上中國產品有沒有透過你台灣洗產地啊請問 部長 |
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有沒有這個過去的實例 有嘛從中國進口建制就到台灣來交貨其實又貼什麼 改標籤嘛養殖的東西 水產品透過活魚搬運跑到台灣來 有沒有有的是賣過去 有的是賣過來有沒有 好 往下看所以部長台灣輸出美國的主要商品有哪些你們有沒有統計你說產品的產品我們賣給美國的東西主要是半導體電子產業 |
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五金零件還有呢比較優勢的就是半導體嘛然後電子相關的零組件然後還有汽車零件的這個部分那一旦零關稅之後呢台灣很多的產品就更具有競爭力可以到美國市場了但是美國會擔心啊你的上游供應員有沒有來自中國是不是這樣子 |
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我們現在大概因為跟美國在談就是飛鴻供應鏈是我是意思說我們要注意到當美國這樣看越南的時候零關稅還不夠的時候我們台灣也要遇到當我們也跟他零關稅之後他還是會檢視你輸出到美國的東西有沒有含有中國成分是是這樣嗎是主委你同意嗎 |
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這是有可能的所以我做個結論其實這次我個人認為川普先生他主要的目的要解決美國的赤字包括貿易赤字跟財政赤字在貿易赤字部分最大的對手就是中國造成的不公平的貿易因此他要求 |
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主要的貿易對手跟他成立一個零關稅的自由貿易同盟要求彼此之間零關稅讓同盟的產品可以取代美國市場上的中國貨另外他也希望同盟國開放你的國內市場讓我美國商品銷售但是由於美國商品有它的非關稅因素台灣可能必須特定的去進行大量的採購另外當台灣想要對美國零關稅的時候美國也會嚴格防止 |
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我們台灣消美的產品有沒有含有中國成分所以結論請經濟部盤點消美的主要產品上游的供應鏈是不是含有中國製品可以嗎可以而且要提出調整對策因為我知道我們有很多的產業它是跟中國有一個供應鏈的關係一定要提出對策可以嗎這個是主委的事情嗎 |
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這部長的事情部長可以嗎我現在再交代他們馬上謝謝馬上處理可能我下午就拿到了好那麼就謝謝部長謝謝主委謝謝主席 |