| IVOD_ID |
159991 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/159991 |
| 日期 |
2025-04-09 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-19-7 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第7次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
7 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第7次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-04-09T12:11:27+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-04-09T12:20:17+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:50 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/984603a5a250cdce164d78e197ab2b36a0ce932bdb5123482eb6e21b32d8c6be22361ff6ef9879315ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
李坤城 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:11:27 - 12:20:17 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-04-09T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第7次全體委員會議（事由：邀請經濟部部長及國家發展委員會主任委員就「國際經貿情勢變化，提出協助國內傳統產業及中小企業因應之對策」進行報告，並備質詢。） |
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謝謝主席我們請經濟部的郭部長還有國發會的劉主委 |
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部長跟主委都辛苦了最近這幾天為了美國關稅的事情相信大家都卯足全力在做這件事情可是其實因為我在財政委員會我在關稅還沒有公布之前其實不論是央行或是財政部都沒有提到會有課到32%這麼高的關稅所以這個32%的關稅出來之後有沒有超乎你們的預期 |
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報告委員我想這個整體的營業小組來講我們在做評估的時候是有算到35%有算到35%高標是35%那你們高標的35%是按照川普這種方式算出來的嗎因為他是算貿易逆差的不是我們有各種這個評估的方法各種評估的方法所以你們那時候算出來有最高到35%但是不是像川普這種算法就對了川普這種算法有沒有在你們的這個 |
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評估裡面他是一個比較舊的計算方式比較舊的計算方式應該好像是19400還是什麼時候的一個計算方式好那請教一下那就是說現在早上很多委員都很關心就是說接下來要跟這個美國談判嘛因為4月9號其實12點台灣的關稅其實就算是生效了嘛我們就是算是課32%了對不對 |
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就是今天開始出貨的就是32%今天開始出貨的到美國的就是算32%那你剛有提到啦就是說有什麼在船上的然後之前已經出貨的有一個時間的算法就對了那請問一下那現在我們跟美國的談判我剛看這個委員在問已經有接上線了而且是排在前面在談了 |
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我們當然在這個line上面我們應該是排在前面啦但是還沒有正式談還沒有正式談那其實川普的算法也很簡單貿易逆差這麼大他要的就是第一個你就是多買美國貨那第二個呢就是減少這個逆差就是擴大去美國投資嘛那這兩點的話目前我們做什麼樣的準備 |
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我們擴大買美國的東西這個部分我想我們都有在盤點然後實際依照國內的情形以不傷害國內的廠商的利益為主我們進行擴大對美國的採購 |
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因為我們採購的東西不是只有美國一個國家我們有很多其他的國家採購的東西我們可以稍微來在這上面做一些調整但民間的企業的部分我們比較沒有算到我們這一次但是我們在國營的企業 |
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我們的機構所需要的採購我們可以調整方向比如說大家可能關心的能源的問題能源問題可以攻擊的國家蠻多的所以根據在目前的這個階段我們就是擴大對美國的採購比如像天然氣比如說像天然氣其他的部分也有OK 好那現在開始對中國的關稅是課到這個104% |
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那我們還是有台商在那邊那這樣對台商的影響勒 |
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我們大概希望是這樣子就是說在這件事件會影響到我們的台商在中國的台商或在東南亞的台商那我們可能就是有兩個方向來幫助他們第一個就協助他們轉移不賣到美國賣到其他的國家因為美國畢竟佔整個全球的貿易市場沒有那麼大所以他還有其他的市場可以去 |
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去銷售這是幫助他第二個如果他的產品是以美國為重點那我們有兩個方式第一個就請他回來台灣製造台灣生產這個是優先第二個如果他是需要美國那邊的資源的他的市場跟資源都在美國那我們協助他 |
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到美国去透过我的之前跟大家报告的境外关内也就是说由我们政府跟美国政府来共同成立一个管理机构协助我们台商可以快速的出海落地然后在那地方做一站式的我们做一站式的服务让他们可以避免一些行政上面往来的时间过去在美国要设一个工厂最快要四年 |
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但是如果說我們用這個統一在這個行政的這樣的一個服務的話大概可以縮短成兩年對啊 那不短你這樣講是比較長期的耶大概要花一年到兩年的時間對 所以短期的話我們希望他轉移市場幫他調整訂單轉移市場或是另外一個 報告委員另外一個如果他的產品在美國由我們台灣的廠商在製造的 |
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我們請他幫台灣的品牌做OEM然後他市場上面照樣用他自己的品牌去銷售但是製造請我們台商在美國的同業幫他製造這說得通嗎?通了嗎?通當然是通啊有跟他們講過了嗎?這個我們在之前我們在這件事情之前就已經跟很多的業者在討論 |
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因為其實我們的網通設備我們的PC我們的筆電伺服器手機零件這個會受到很大的影響啊這個不見得我跟委員報告台灣的很多的廠商是做EMS他很多做EMS或是幫人家代工的所以那個稅是由美國的客戶在繳的所以你說這樣子課了104%的關稅對台灣的這些台商影響不大對台灣的才有對台灣的才有 |
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好我最後問一下就是說對於經濟的影響這個 |
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彭博他有說到 他說台灣對美國的出口可能會銳減63%導致對台灣GDP下滑約3.8% 這個劉主委是不是可以答一下因為他這個數字出來 其實還蠻震撼的其實目前我們有委託專業機構進行研究目前出來的數字是減少0.43到1.610.43到1.61 這是在 |
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關稅確定32%之後算了嗎對確定關稅之後我們委外研究的我們現在是在委託另外一家研究機構做第二次的檢核所以沒有像這個像這個什麼彭博他們所講的這一個會掉了這麼多就對了對目前是出來的數字是沒有 |
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好我再問最後就是其實這881比較是像是這一個讓台灣的廠商能夠渡過難關那我請問一下這881夠嗎 |
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880億其實它是一個可以隨時在市狀況再進行調整的我是覺得是880億可能還不夠雖然我不知道說談判的情況是怎麼樣但是這個短時間你用880億因為我不知道這個數字最後怎麼算出來的700是屬於工業部門 180是屬於這個農業部門但是我直覺啦我直覺這個對廠商來講可能還不夠啦那你們有沒有想說這個再爭取再多一點部長 |
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報告委員,我想881是我們有一個假設的稅率啦可能造成了這個影響所以我們大概881...你這假設的稅率是多少?這是我們有一個假設的,這個抱歉在這個地方不能夠來談因為現在還在談判嘛,所以這個部分只能X好不好X的話我們大概881是夠的,高於這個X |
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那881就像您所說的可能不夠我們會有第二次的特別預算所以是希望881就夠用就對了以下以下謝謝委員謝謝部長 謝謝主委 |