| IVOD_ID |
159973 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/159973 |
| 日期 |
2025-04-09 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-19-7 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第7次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
7 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第7次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-04-09T11:37:06+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-04-09T11:44:12+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:07:06 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/984603a5a250cdced0ccfad63457b502a0ce932bdb5123482eb6e21b32d8c6be87251998cad1e1525ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
徐巧芯 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:37:06 - 11:44:12 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-04-09T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第7次全體委員會議（事由：邀請經濟部部長及國家發展委員會主任委員就「國際經貿情勢變化，提出協助國內傳統產業及中小企業因應之對策」進行報告，並備質詢。） |
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徐巧欣委员做询答谢谢主席那我们有请经济部长郭部长 |
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文雲好部長好新聞傳出呢聯電要與全國第五大晶圓代工廠企業這個格羅方德傳出合併的消息那也引發很多人的批評說先把護國神山台積電賣掉了連二哥聯電也要賣那請問部長對這件事情您是樂觀其成還是倍感憂心我想這些假設性的這個他們已經談到滿深入了 |
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我們的訊息是我認為這是假設性的命題你認為他們不會合併是假消息我們到目前為止沒有收到這樣的申請所以你認為這個聯電跟格羅方德不會合併我們沒有收到這方面的訊息嘛好那如果說他們合併的話您是樂觀其成還是您會有所憂心 |
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我們認為這是假設性的命題假設性的問題你還是可以回答因為就兩個第一個就是他們會合併第二個就是他們不會合併你只有兩種選擇而已如果他們合併了你會倍感憂心還是你會樂觀其成如果他們不合併你會倍感憂心還是樂觀其成這不算是一個假設性的問題因為你只有兩種選擇你認為你要跟我討論的是學術性的探討 |
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就我要問你作為一個經濟部長的探討如果是學術性的探討我認為他們不可能合併你認為他們不可能合併好你認為他們不可能合併嗎那業界有那如果合併了呢你今天要怎麼如果他們最終合併了你今天在這裡的就不會合併你確定他們不會合併就對了我說是學術性的探討他就是不會合併好沒有啦我只是問你說那如果他們最後合併了你在這裡告訴大家說不會合併 |
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能夠了解的範圍之內 為什麼 不會合併呢我知道了 這個經濟部長告訴我們說他們不會合併那經濟部長您在5月11號到14號去這個企業領袖訪美團那參加這個美國投資高峰會裡面那有沒有可能去見證他們相關的這個MOU |
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我們會有哪一些的資源假設性的題目嘛你就已經要準備去參加了嘛那你去參加之後你2025年有沒有要去參加這個高峰會你有沒有要赴美參加這個高峰會 |
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參加這個美國的這個3月10月的這個高峰會有沒有這個是由行政院在調整的那你沒有要參加目前都是動態的動態的所以你2025有沒有要去參加你不知道 |
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你說我不知道什麼你不知道你2025年美國投資高峰會你自己本人有沒有去參加我本人去不去參加不是我決定的而是由行政院決定的所以你本人不知道目前我現在目前當然是沒有說到這個指示你不知道那我也沒辦法你好像很多事情都不知道 |
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那先前三月在亞利桑那州訪台的時候不存在的事情不存在的事情的意思就是說你不會喔因為其他很多部門他今天他要準備今年要去哪裡哪裡做拜訪的時候他們的schedule都已經出來了喔我就在你這裡才有聽過說哎呀我還不知道2025年的這個活動我要去還是不要去我就在這裡才聽過你講這樣子我繼續問喔你假設的問題不見得是我要知道的問題 |
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那是你這樣認為我不這樣認為我在其他所有的委員會裡面我詢問說你們今年要來哪一些的出訪大家都已經把2025年的schedule都排好了目前只有你不知道目前只有我知道假設性的問題你認為是假設性的問題 |
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但在其他的委員會的這個部長裡面他們都已經是把今年的時程表給規劃好了只有你不知道沒有關係那如果說呢這個川普他當天也說的時候有提到我們的 |
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要拿走台灣的台灣拿走所有的半導體跟晶片那後來呢商務部長又講川普之後會做更深入的研究看看要如何把全部的半導體製造從台灣移到美國那請問這個真的會發生嗎那我們會同意嗎 |
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我們對各種情境的假設我們都會評估啦我們都會評估你剛剛說不會所以我沒有講不會是你聽錯了因為你說你那等於說政府對於美國商業部部長已經說出來的要把 |
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全部的半導體從製造到台灣移到美國你們要現在開始做評估還是你們做評估已經做多久了我們早就有做評估了所以你們評估是要怎麼樣你們是所以你為什麼要說我是假設性的問題呢你們都已經做了評估了我就問說你們會同意還是不同意嘛你們評估的結果是什麼嘛評估的結果是什麼 |
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這種不是假設性的嗎有很多啊有很多很多是什麼你講個一個兩個來聽聽嘛啊一個兩個來聽聽啊不是啦你想要聽哪一個啊我隨便你我隨便你你講一兩個來聽就好因為我要知道你到底評估了什麼你說你有評估但是你評估了什麼你完全沒講那我到底知不知道那我到底能不能知道你有沒有評估啊那你就亂問啊沒有啊我亂問個屁啊 |
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你剛才說你們已經有評估了然後我問你說你評估了什麼你一個都講不出來那我就講說我們有很多你要聽哪一個啊那我隨便你講一個嘛我現在在講嘛你剛才提供的Global Foundry跟聯電這個事情我可以告訴你不可能好 |
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然後呢所以我們不會同意嘛對不對所以我們最後我們講說所以美國商業部長講說如果我們要把全部的半導體從台灣移到美國我們是反對的我們不會同意對吧 |
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我們會有各種情境的假設你剛剛已經說了連電不會去合併跟美國這邊合併所以你的意思就已經很清楚了你不會讓全部的半導體從台灣移到美國嗎這就是一個邏輯嗎我時間到了謝謝你這個邏輯怪怪的好謝謝 |