| IVOD_ID |
159943 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/159943 |
| 日期 |
2025-04-09 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-23-6 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期交通委員會第6次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
6 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
23 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
交通委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期交通委員會第6次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-04-09T10:18:33+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-04-09T10:29:53+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:11:20 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/984603a5a250cdceb3b37474bd2d6ddab899a01abdeb36336e4b1f34053c89de76b3930739f4ced85ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
林俊憲 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:18:33 - 10:29:53 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-04-09T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期交通委員會第6次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請交通部部長陳世凱就「如何推動國際旅客來台觀光」及「提升國際機場量能與服務品質及增闢國際線航點航班之作為」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
二、處理113年度中央政府總預算附屬單位預算關於交通部主管預算凍結案計48案。
三、審查人民請願文書共12案。
【報告事項第(十二)案及第(十八)案如經院會復議，則不予處理】
【4月9日及10日二天一次會】） |
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感謝主席 本席邀請我們交通部陳部長還有我們觀光署周署長部長我先提一個問題給部長參考一下我們觀光署在推鐵道觀光其實我看起來有一點成效 |
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而且應該會越來越好因為這是一個新型態的旅遊那台灣其實鐵道的歷史非常悠久那也有很多的鐵道迷那你現在玩這種鐵道我看有幾條路線開出來去年一年 |
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因為目前大概我覺得應該有破20萬人因為山南號就最後一個花蓮漢池上我沒有寫上人數是這個統計數字還沒有給我所以大概一年已經有超過20萬人今年應該會更好吧今年一定會更好而且我看公共組很像有一個案子在主推鐵道旅遊節今年會推鐵道旅遊節那可不可以拜託推一下台南 |
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署長 這裡鐵道啊這裡環島之心啊 什麼明日號啦 藍皮節優號 海豐號 福生號 三藍號沒有一條線有停台纜 |
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針對這種觀光列車的部分大概台鐵他們有一個一套計畫那但是如果說觀光的部分的話我們會扛鐵跟那個沿鐵啊我覺得那個部分應該很有鐵道迷對台南是台灣鐵道文化的歷史重鎮是包括那個車站也是很重要是台灣最古老的火車站嘛那台南的鐵路啊就台鐵在台南一共有14個車站 |
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像後壁、新林、善化、永康、台南等等保安啦國定古蹟就是台南火車站,台南車站市定古蹟就是剛那個保安車站那總經理嘛,感謝總經理那歷史建築物就是後壁還有林鳳營車站 |
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那另外再加上一些支線好像台塘的五分車路線新營道柳營的八翁線後壁歐秋南的新港東線那麼多的鐵道觀光資源台鐵為什麼把台南挑過去報告委員我們了解台南地區周邊地區很多相關的文化觀光旅遊的一個豐富的資產 |
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所以我們明日號還有明日廚房跟我們的三藍海豐號每半年我們都會檢討行程都沒有檢討到台南為什麼不停不要挑怪我的問題你知道我要問什麼嘛拜託一下輔導或者推廣推動一下保護員 |
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介紹來台南庭我們結合六七八月觀光署有一個鐵道旅遊節那台鐵這邊其實已經有規劃了就是明日號在六月份會走台南明日號六月份可以停台南了喔對 停台南只有一條明日號啊真的沒辦法 要記住了 |
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後續我們還有山南海豐我們都會動態來做一個檢討因為把台南地區把它納入我們你說什麼號 山南號山南跟海豐讓台南豐富的鐵道歷史應該 我相信這個我們好好來推廣 這個絕對有吸引力好不好而且台南還有唐鐵對 我們還有唐鐵啊就我剛剛跟部長分享嘛整體的鐵道旅遊節也會結合唐鐵的部分 |
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湯田那五文車喔,你如果營業多一點台灣現在很少了啦台湯那五文車喔,就是新娘到女娘的八王線啦另外後面那新港東線,就非常有趣啦好不好,是不是大家來結合一下打造我們台南的古都觀光列車裡面那個鐵道把它拉進來另外啊,不是只有陸地的鐵道啦 |
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海上也一樣我們看一下我們台南的現在郵輪我已經在這邊喊話很多次了現在大概郵輪去年停靠台南的是零今年好像預估也是零那你國際郵輪不來就算了現在連國內的航線台南也是零為什麼會這樣 |
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在今年啦 今年有一個觀光會議這個不錯啦至少我們好像觀光署有召開一個全國的觀光會議嘛讓各縣市政府把他們的觀光的需求提出來這個我要肯定周署長我們去辦這樣的一個全國觀光大會上台南市政府就特別提出國內的航線是不是請觀光 |
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交通部來幫忙再恢復台南馬宮航線台南到馬宮委員在說是台南到馬宮的部分啦這個是台南市政府在觀光會議上我們請航港局來協助這個部分大家來溝通一下那目前是布袋啦布袋走馬宮這條航線是有的那我們來思考一下台南的部分怎麼來增加因為 |
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現在國際郵輪人數大概恢復到疫前的就是COVID-19前的85%了就是坐國際郵輪來台灣的旅客但國內航線的旅客數已經超越疫情之前了那台南都還零 |
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保護員其實我剛剛聽署長在說很像台南市政府也願意幫忙出一些錢讓我們一起結合起來來爭取這個航線因為他們希望能夠567配合那個花火節所以他們希望能夠加大力道來把台南跟馬宮這個航線把它串起來我覺得這個計畫還不錯重要就對就是一個定期航線嘛 |
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另外港務公司去年也說過去國際郵輪展在推銷台灣的時候應該要把台南納進來 |
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尤其那個國際的那個大展像那個邁阿密的遊輪展要積極去招商啦那你是有跟台南...我跟委員報告邁阿密現在在...正在那個邁阿密遊輪展我們有派員去全球的遊輪展正在邁阿密那去...往年的話就是我們找那個民政世界啦有跟台南市政府談就是我們也推銷就是美食還有就是一些它的古蹟啦 |
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但是他們評估以後就沒有下文但是我們還持續在努力那今年的話我們大概五六月那個我們總經理他會到日本去希望能夠因為日本對台南這邊也有一些親切感希望能夠拉一些那我們所有的場戰我們都準備好了 |
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好 這個基本上在這種行銷的推廣上那我們地方政府也需要中央的一個幫忙因為同時我們也看到說鄒書長前幾天有一個新聞就是公安署有統計到國內旅遊天數就國人啊國人在排國內旅遊的平均天數大概只有一點不到一天半那幾乎國內旅遊都是當天往返 |
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所以到後來就說那我們是不是應該要推動啊讓國人旅遊可以有留宿至少要住一個晚上嘛那如果來推動這個當然我看這個問題很久但是都沒有人去碰觸啦有的人不願意再過夜是因為覺得第一他國人旅遊排的大部分都是假日 |
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當他在假日的時候在台灣國內旅遊偏偏假日的住宿 那個金額都嚇死人比較貴 假日比較貴 平日其實蠻便宜的都是很貴 很可怕的貴這些都是以倍數 甚至好幾倍這種不合理的一種狀態像這種狀況 你不解決 就會惡性循環 |
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大家就國內旅遊都一天就趕快解決就當天去當天回來那這樣就失去了國內旅遊推動它最重要的嘛你當然你在那邊住一晚你一定是多消費這必然那為什麼這個問題講了那麼久都沒辦法解決呢 |
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報告委員有沒有什麼方式台灣目前的交通的狀況尤其是高鐵大家很習慣搭之後很多人確實是習慣一日遊那一日遊已經佔了百分之七十幾的比例其實很高那我們觀光署也在努力希望大家能夠留宿那也就是我們未來辦的活動我們會希望盡量辦在晚上讓大家例如說我從台北到了台南 |
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那因為要參加活動是晚上你就一定會留宿嘛或者是像一些演唱會經濟也是這個概念它是晚上的活動那你必然要在那個都市裡面留宿一晚那我們會來調整這個活動的時間過去就是早上比較多那未來我們希望夜間的這個活動要多一些 |
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但是你那個台灣住宿價格那麼高的問題這個這個確實也是個現象啊你不覺得嗎 署長是是是你不會覺得我們的價值是怎樣其實這個跟那個地價稅 房屋稅都有關係因為我們那個地方政府是不是啦 它是平日假日的價差啦對對 他們那次還是用這個什麼地價稅 你現在在說什麼啦 |
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假日的部分是比較高 對因為它有一個大概我們算起來大概百分之三十啦當然就旅館業者說因為我平常碰到這裡沒人客沒有可能我整個就是禮拜五禮拜六啊但是有時候你就是殺雞取卵啦你價格 價格飆那麼高那根本沒有人去啊那你不能太不合理啦這實際上有沒有有沒有那個價格定價 |
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確實有那個烘台價格的那個狀況還是要注意一下還是要補導業者對那個因為一般旅館他在掛牌上市那我再請問一下有沒有因為價格太高到目前為止受處罰的案例 |
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他們都沒有超過他的標價他們都是用標價來降低來販售平日打折的折數比較多平日就是照標價平東就有個案例啊平常800後來賣了7000多10倍那個直接取締了那直接取締我覺得跟你說像這種狀況你還是要有一定的資本有有那直接取締而且我們重罰平東縣政府直接重罰15萬 |
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如果國內旅遊都是一天玩板 那國內觀光怎麼擠得來來匆匆 去匆匆啊好不好喔 謝謝部長 謝謝署長 |