| IVOD_ID |
159939 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/159939 |
| 日期 |
2025-04-09 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-23-6 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期交通委員會第6次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
6 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
23 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
交通委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期交通委員會第6次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-04-09T09:31:43+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-04-09T09:44:55+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:13:12 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/984603a5a250cdce085b288a32c6cecdb899a01abdeb36336e4b1f34053c89dea478bf4b7292ce505ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
洪孟楷 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:31:43 - 09:44:55 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-04-09T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期交通委員會第6次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請交通部部長陳世凱就「如何推動國際旅客來台觀光」及「提升國際機場量能與服務品質及增闢國際線航點航班之作為」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
二、處理113年度中央政府總預算附屬單位預算關於交通部主管預算凍結案計48案。
三、審查人民請願文書共12案。
【報告事項第(十二)案及第(十八)案如經院會復議，則不予處理】
【4月9日及10日二天一次會】） |
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好主席謝謝麻煩請陳士凱部長那另外相關的同仁如果有問到業務也請直接上來好先請部長 |
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好 部長委員長今天洋洋灑灑非常多的一個業務喔但是我想一個一個來我今天總共分三個部分一個是機場的管理一個是國旅的狀況還有我們世界遊客的一個吸引首先第一我不知道 |
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部長我們兩三個禮拜前也去參訪陶基嘛然後也看了第三航廈的一個工程那我們也認為重大工程對於我們國家的發展絕對有正向的一個幫助那您知道2024年我們陶基的排名在全世界是第幾名嗎 |
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六十幾 六十六那確實差強人意 為什麼因為2023年是82有進步但是不夠好因為我們最好的時候曾經到13名那請教現在有沒有掌握今年有可能往前或是往後的排名我想今年的部分排名應該是會往前啦你知道什麼時候會公佈嗎 |
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今天 朝偉排得非常好今天此時此刻馬德里4月9號當然有時差的問題可是在馬德里會公布今年的排名那我們想知道 |
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來沒關係資料問清楚一點再回答想知道就是說那我們目前掌握的狀況因為以往都跟我們推說是因為疫情的關係所以說我們的排名往後落後但全世界都受到疫情的影響是 報告委員那現在也已經恢復了我們也期待是好的排名我們去年比前年好那今年的排名也會比去年好但是詳細的這個數字我們要尊重這個主辦的單位由他們來公布這個部分我們不能講但是能夠確定的是我們是 |
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會比去年再往前我們會比去年再更好我們都希望好還要更好那最好是要回復到我們最好的排名13名的時候甚至更超前可是我們現在看到桃園機場到第三航廈整個完成的時候佔多少的這個旅客運量一年4500萬那去年我們的這個旅客運量有多少 |
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4400多萬是所以換言之其實我們並沒有超前部署因為到目前你看啊現在的狀況一行下二行下加起來是3000多萬人口可是因為我們現在是爆量所以說到2027年年底才開始使用的這個第三行下即便是它完成那那個時候也跟我們現在的一個運量差不多 |
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那我們有什麼樣的辦法更加提升我們整體的服務一方面我們現在既有的行下它的效率的提升其實我們整體的這個運量可以再提升一些那另外就是我們在九月份或者是在今年年底之前我們的這個北郎廳也就是第三行下的北郎廳如果啟用的話其實它的整體的運量也可以再提升一些是啦部長我剛剛已經跟你請教嘛你說當今天是你們的資料給我的資料嘛第三行下整個啟用之後 |
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上限是四千五百萬嘛是不是光是三行下OK光三行下就可以四千五百萬所以說整體的提升可以有更高是不是整體來說的話如果T1加T2加T3的話加起來是八千多萬所以預計沒有到八千多萬啦但預計就是會有更高的一個提升好來 |
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那再來我想請教一下在國旅的一個部分其實連鎖反應也是我們現在有看到就是說整體的一個成本因為從去年年底開始就有跟環境部這邊有做一次性的備品是不能使用的 |
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是 對不對好 可是馬上就會有民眾反應就是說到目前為止我們明明已經講說不是說一次限備品不給使用而是說不應該主動的提供是 不主動提供對 可是可以用購買或是說用可以購買或者詢問的方式來 我們來看一下部長有沒有看到1月時候的新聞這個新政策上路之後其實很多的 |
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不管是我們的這些觀光客我們的一個相關人員就開始要講啊就說我只需要牙膏牙刷但是他告訴我們這一些有一些旅館告訴我們就是說他全套是要用販賣的那反而會造成更不環保的狀況來再看下一頁 |
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你說要花一百塊去買備品我想備品一百塊但是裡面會去全套所以反而他有一些東西他不需要反而沒有用到更不環保那甚至他做出來的結論就是說其實這根本就是省成本嘛變成變相的漲價飯店業者沒有準備這樣的一個物品然後變相的漲價給這個住客來去做一個使用再來 |
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不提供所以說甚至那個時候還傳出說沐浴乳也沒有提供後來證實是說要提供的是大容量的沐浴乳可是最後又有人講是說國旅反而是雪上加霜 |
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部長現在政策上路業已經三個多月了有沒有注意到這樣的狀況以及現在到底我們的飯店業者他們提供備品的一個狀況是什麼報告委員您剛剛所提到的沒有錯我們這個是配合環境部的政策所以整體的這個飯店必須要來配合那這三個月我們除了輔導我們的業者 |
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讓我們的旅客能夠更方便的取用之外那如果有遇到的所謂的您剛剛所提的那幾個亂象的部分我們也會盡量去輔導業者也跟業者去溝通怎麼樣讓民眾更便利的能夠取得到他需要的東西那另外就是說針對這個100塊它是一整套的我想有可能是因為飯店業者他們如果還要再分批 |
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來包裝的話對他們來講是可能人力上的成本會提高是人力上的成本所以他就是用整套的他看起來他是整套他其實是散裝但是他看起來他是用整套來販售所以某種無形當中是一個變相的漲價部長環境部會推給說這個主管機關是我們觀光署 |
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是我們交通部 交通部現在又推給環境部但是我們現在要看的是 最重點在於是說我們不希望因為國旅大家過去最常被人家詬病 國旅是什麼問題價格嘛 房價太高嘛那現在在這樣子的一個政策上路之後 又變成影響到人家大家會覺得是說好像無形變價又漲價 |
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跟委員報告一下如果是個案的部分我們也很樂意大家告訴我們我們會個案來做處理那通案的部分其實我們也在這個要求到目前為止我們掌握多少飯店他是如果說在櫃台或說他可以來提供只要有旅客有詢問是 |
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現在大概六都的部分大概都比較就是說已經那有關於非六都的部分我們也持續在關心那麼我們也跟工協會也正式行為給工協會那這些部分我們同步來做那當然也是呼籲我們只是說他索取的話如果有那當然要免費提供但是他如果比較精美的比較自己額外的希望有一個部分他是可以收費那這個部分我們已經通案去要求了 |
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組長這個部分是不是可以再給本席相關資料好針對我們怎麼樣來跟旅館公會業者溝通那並且重點在於是不要讓消費者認為說我們的房價一直居高不下是來部長最後 |
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我們今年的觀光人口人數預計目標如果要說目標的話我去年有說過去年沒達成的我們今年來達成那也就是說去年所定的目標是1000萬我們今年盡量朝1000萬的目標有機會嗎第一季我們的觀光人口數有多少我們第一季已經到210萬210萬 |
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那如果說照這樣子的一個推估比起去年成長了差不多3%左右啦是我有看到你們的新聞稿但是第一季210萬我們剛剛報告的時候有講到美國關稅的問題全球性的一個衝擊有可能會造成 |
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相對應的很多產業都受到連結我們自己觀光業其實也有也很有可能會受到連結跟波動對不對因為如果說整體的一個經濟下滑或者是通貨膨脹甚至有無薪假還失業率的一個部分的話其實觀光也會受到影響有沒有算過我們在這一次的一個關稅因應 |
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報告委員我覺得這個部分關稅到現在大家都說影響非常大但是實際的影響到底有多少我相信各國到目前為止沒有一個數字所以它到底影響到什麼程度什麼層面我們現在只能觀察但你說現在要仔細計算出來說實在的台灣到底現在關稅是百分之三十二還是百分之多少政府要去談 |
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還有就是我們相關的一些政策要去做調整嘛來但是部長我不希望是我們的自我感覺良好是因為我沒有看到另外的一個資訊喔來下一張針對國際上的一個統計其實就亞洲國家來講2024年觀光客願意來亞洲玩那並且他來去做一個旅遊的時候其實台灣是倒數 |
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這確實這是很客觀的一個數字確實倒數那我們現在在看到你報告裡面也有提到我們也希望是說針對這一次的這個相關的一些活動這也是過去本席也一直提到就是說我們也要結合不要說只是單打獨鬥是相關的一個活動能夠來去亮點吸引更多的一個觀光客所以你這邊有提到說114年世界壯年運動會賞鳥博覽會露營大會等等在台灣舉辦 |
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那世界壯年運動會雙北舉辦也在一個月就要上場了有沒有掌握這一次世界壯年運動會我們會有多少的一個觀光客的人數目前的話是新北市跟台北市的觀傳局跟觀旅局我們保持密切聯繫那他們也希望能夠多一些能夠提前來 |
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來旅遊或者是延後回去我現在在問的是數字有沒有掌握能夠增加多少看部長這邊的微笑我想是說第一季的210萬可能對部長來講這個是一個最低的標準我們也希望逐步的提高第二季 第三季尤其是暑假的旺季還沒有到來 |
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那但是一樣嘛你現在既然會列出來是說我們有相關的一個活動那就代表是說本席也期待你們應該是要更積極的來去做宣傳宣導甚至利用這樣的一個機會為期兩個禮拜的時間全世界的運動員都來到台灣的時候可以有增加更多的亮點甚至引導他們不只是在雙北地區 |
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是台中高雄台南花蓮台東也都可以去玩啊特別跟委員報告一下那現在掌握了多少我們針對這個壯年運動會的部分我們有跟新北市跟台北市有一個合作那他也有獎勵措施我們也有獎勵措施是那這個獎勵措施的部分不能重複特別跟委員報告一下所以預計 |
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但是實際的申請數還不明確那現在掌握了有多少觀光客會過來或是說飯店現在在居住那兩個禮拜的時間入住率我們有保持聯繫啦但是因為新北市跟台北市還沒有具體的數字告訴我們我們會持續跟他保持聯繫署長 副長 |
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我想這是你們的報告既然你們在提供給立法院講到說會以相關的主題宣傳並且來適逢相關的活動來去做推廣本席認同本席更希望看到說不是只是寫在紙上好看而是真真正正能夠利用機會借力使力搭順風車讓 |
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效益能夠出來這是為什麼我現在在請教還剩一個月不到照理講如果說你們認為這是真的很重要或說真的很可以協助宣傳的你們應該現在已經可以掌握了這一點 |
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我們宿外的16個處都有在幫忙行銷好 署長你剛剛講說你是不是可以再整理相關資料提供給本席並且也提供給本席相關你們的成效預計推廣會因為這樣子有帶來什麼樣的一個效力可以嗎是好 謝謝好 謝謝 |