| IVOD_ID |
159931 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/159931 |
| 日期 |
2025-04-09 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-19-7 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第7次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
7 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第7次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-04-09T09:51:47+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-04-09T10:04:46+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:12:59 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/984603a5a250cdce4a8d4a6ebefa15eca0ce932bdb5123486e4b1f34053c89de1d297194e58c514e5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
楊瓊瓔 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:51:47 - 10:04:46 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-04-09T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第7次全體委員會議（事由：邀請經濟部部長及國家發展委員會主任委員就「國際經貿情勢變化，提出協助國內傳統產業及中小企業因應之對策」進行報告，並備質詢。） |
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主席好 陽泉發言 邀請部長跟國防會主委郭部長 劉主委 |
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委員長兩位好我們一起加油那首先要請教部長全民關注的這個關稅應對在4月3號美國總統川普他宣布了加徵我們32%的對等關稅時那首先請問政府有沒有事先先前評估到會這麼高有沒有從美方得到相關的資訊有沒有提早 |
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必備到因應關稅的措施請做說明報告委員我想這一部分我們可以 各位說明委員報告我們當時設了很多版本最高的版本其實我們是到35%最高的版本是35%對對對我們當時有好幾個版本那有比較好的有比較弱的但是 |
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但是他這次的工資你比較好的你認為你們很多版本最高35最低是多少我25最低是10最低是10我們都有版本在應變是是是那請教 |
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您所謂的最高35%到最低的10%因為我們看到在4月1號執政黨的這個黨團總召柯總召他不只鐵口直言說美國只會收10%更說是國安會議的總結 他參加 他也看到 |
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所以換句話說 如果照剛剛劉主委所說的在川普這個宣布前 我們政府就已經有預估是10%是最底線 是最輕的那最高是35% 是不是如此 |
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是不是如此我們的評估當然是根據各種不同的情境那我們也曾經評估到高標是35所以換句話說對這很好要事先評估是很好所以本校要請教因為宣布的時候落差那麼大跟柯總召落差那麼大所以本校要請教所以當時柯總召說的 |
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也是你們的研判之內報告委員柯總召不代表行政院好 這句話我們聽到了柯總召不代表行政院那同時我要請教那880億的方案是當時就有的方案還是事後得到32%的加徵才開始討論又是以什麼為基準呢請做說明 |
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我們當然是事後事到32%以後我們趕快再調整加碼放大加碼出來第一個階段我們認為880億是不是可以來滿足這個紓困的方案因為我們大概整個加起來 |
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我們大概看一下就是說受到影響的可能就是傳統產業跟中小微企業那在那個電子伺服器的部分高科技的產品可能影響不大這個是我們都確認過了 |
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所以我們880億就是針對中小微企業跟這個傳產以這個為主但這是第一階段如果這個談判出來的結果以後如果我們能夠快速談判達到一個好的結果大概我們預估880億應該可以滿足這樣的一個需求如果我們談判的結果不如我們的預期那麼當然這個金額會加大 |
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好 這個就是大家一定要一起團結而且我們要事先也有預作我們的應對措施那所以本校要請教我們是出國導向的國家美國關稅來提高的做法對於我們這樣子的一個經濟體它絕對是很大 |
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的一個衝擊那外媒的彭博也預估該稅率將會導致台灣對美出口累減會63%那導致我們國內的GDP會降到3.8%會降這麼多在這樣的情況之下大型的公司或許它有迴轉的空間 |
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就像剛剛部長所說的我們對於中小企業它是直接面臨到生存的一個壓力在這樣的情況之下我們看到台灣的中小企業激佔我們的九成產值我們的就業人口也即將要有在中小企業裡頭要有千萬人在這樣子的一個重大 |
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經濟的動脈下去如果處理不佳 它當然經濟的停滯當然是跟整個社會會連動那換句話說是全米要承受所以在這樣的情況之下 我必須要強調目前為止我們的談判大家似乎認為我們的準備不夠周延而且慢半拍在這樣的一個情況之下呢我們要看到紓困 |
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緊急紓困是第一個階段最迫切需要的對不對 部長你們兩位都點頭我們繼續討論緊急紓困880億的內容當中幾乎都是我們中長期的政策而且包括政府的轉型AI導入它沒有辦法即刻救援啊所以在這樣的一個情況之下本席要請教 |
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像我們中小企業他們既然面臨了生存的壓力這是非常嚴肅的一個議題他們除了需要要解決關稅就請政府我們全力的支持勇敢的有專業有能力的去談判 |
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那同時就像中小企業所馬上面臨到的請教部長跟主委我們針對於基台的更新這些的利息補貼你們做足了準備嗎 準備怎麼做甚至土地的租賃要不要協助他們來做補貼 |
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中小企業信保基金你必須要有填單他已經連他的單都被轉單抽單他沒有業績中小企業信保基金能不能延續下來協助跟銀行一起寬鬆的帶給我們的中小企業急迫必須需要銀行會不會雨天收傘會不會抽銀根 |
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請教報告委員回答你的問題第一個銀行一定不會抽銀根好這是我們一直進行監督銀行一定不可以抽銀根部長對不對我們現在的中小企業署創新署我們現在開辦馬上辦中心來協助這些中小微企業他們碰到的問題不會每家都一樣所以我們一對一的輔導一對一的幫助他們解決問題 |
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銀行一定不可抽銀根這是部長告訴我們的我心裡踏實一點我也給我們所有的中小企業說不會雨天收傘大家共體時艱也務必一定要落實到在現階段我們絕對不能抽銀根部長 |
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這個是行政院的決策決策一定要落實不會去戳銀根這一句話讓我們繼續來討論本下請教台中市整個機械產業的一個重鎮那麼我們是不是已經掌控因為目前大家很緊張在中張頭是整個機械的胖修啦我們都在這裡好緊張自行車業燈手工具機工具機這個零件 |
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還有我們的扣件我們都好緊張各個工會也都發出了聲音所以在這樣的情況之下我們政府針對於產業鏈的人力流失跟失業風險的擴散所以要請教國防會在這裡你是不是會考慮設立了產業轉型與人力穩定基金作為我們整個緩衝轉單期的時候它的人事成本它的再訓資源的一個來源 |
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請教有沒有跨部會去討論我們目前是有跨部會討論我們跟經濟部這些單位有在討論過相關的問題那我們是一個再次轉型的專案那委員這邊提的產業轉型與能力穩定基金我想這也許也可以作為一個思考的方向之一謝謝你納入本席的建議 |
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思考之一但是我請你務必要這麼做因為依照勞基法老闆是不能不給薪的那我們雙邊都要讓他們穩定下來除了不要抽銀根但是人力我們還要保留住在這個階段我們如果再做再訓的工作我覺得是非常適當 |
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所以用這兩點意見也提供給主委我非常的希望可以聽到你納入這兩項來協助我們的產業好的好謝謝你 接下來本席要請問部長台灣投資美國隊我們主要的產業是什麼半導體ICT或者是什麼產業那這些 |
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你在投資的時候當然你也不能隨便給你還必須要有所評估那到底有多少項目有多少人可以配合做得來盤點的嗎還有我們的輔導措施到底是什麼所謂的台灣投資美國隊請做說明報告委員所有企業要往外走它只有兩個選項第一個看重當地的市場第二個看重當地的資源 |
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我們是民主的國家我們對企業只有輔導那麼他有意願到美國發展我們會幫助他早日能夠出海落地早日能夠賺錢我們基本上這個我們可以思考我們到美國去做的是優勢產品還是做的是競爭的產品 |
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是 所以我們項目有盤點了嗎因為既然喊出了這個口號絕對有所措施請問有哪些產業我們的盤點是這樣子就是說這個是在談判的過程美國希望我們哪一些東西去投資我們要保護國內的產業所以我們要衡量國內的產業有沒有到海外去發展的這個能力所以我們這個才綜合在 |
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考量的部分中和在考量的部分還沒有確定哪一些項目是嗎但是我們基本上就是會整合如果去外國投資我們要縮短它的交易成本縮短它的配送成本所以我們大概是比較建議是整個供應鏈一起走整個供應鏈一起走打一個台灣國家隊這樣的一個概念就是換句話說半導體跟ICT產業是已經在這項目之內 |
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可以這麼解讀嗎這要看對方的希望我們也希望政府你必須要有輔導的措施所以因此排除非關稅的貿易障礙那請教美國最在意的是什麼呢 |
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我們有很多嘛譬如說我們的一些稅上面的部分或者是一些在行銷上面的措施讓美國覺得說你這個不是公平的競爭這一些叫做貿易障礙 |
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我們當然會從各方面去解釋可能是國內的文化的關係可能國內的習慣的關係所以我們主要還是要保護國內的這些產業所以我們會透過他們在這個協商或者是在談判的過程裡面讓對方完全了解保護國內的產業這是基本的概念 |
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本系列提出必須要能夠保護我們民生食安以及我們的農牧產業是的這兩點請務必一定要嚴肅與正一起加油 謝謝 |