| IVOD_ID |
159900 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/159900 |
| 日期 |
2025-04-07 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-15-8 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期內政委員會第8次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
8 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期內政委員會第8次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-04-07T11:10:21+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-04-07T11:20:15+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:54 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/c41b1a0504d137e5e0ad318f69f35e3e5410e0cc1efc9f3076318e8f2386bd98fa45173602f404955ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
洪孟楷 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:10:21 - 11:20:15 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-04-07T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
(變更議程)立法院第11屆第3會期內政委員會第8次全體委員會議（事由：邀請內政部部長、交通部就「市區道路品質改善計畫執行效益與檢討」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
【本次議案係114年度內政部國土管理署及所屬「生活圈道路交通系統建設計畫(市區道路)」業務費預算解凍條件之檢討改善專案報告】） |
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好主持謝謝麻煩請我們交通部公路局副局長來副局長 |
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本期今天特別感謝曹偉排這個市區道路品質改善計畫不管是內政部不管是交通部這兩大部會其實都對於市區道路有非常重要的責任那我先讓你看一下這個在上個月這是我們淡水地區關渡大橋 |
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關渡大橋因為砂石車而造成急刹而造成整個泥漿翻覆啊那一天剛好是禮拜五的下午所以說那一天真的道路非常的庸塞關渡大橋我想副理長應該很了解吧是它是交通量可能是最大的一個橋墩對不對那在 |
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淡江大橋今年年底完工之前其實都還是大家認為是說關渡大橋他的這個交通量非常需要來立即改善我先請教因為我們看到這樣的一個新聞當然那一天立即有做處理不管是地方的警察或者是我們相關的公務通人那有沒有釐清到底這個肇事責任以及對後續這個駕駛的球場 |
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公務員報告因為這個案子是我們公務部突然在處理所以我這邊沒有了解但是這個依照規定的部分還是就是我們會去追究如果是因為是砂石車的部分我們還是會去追究砂石車的有公共危險相關的法律責任嘛對不對好那本席才看喔我們去打大型砂石車擊殺泥漿翻覆 |
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發覺這不是特例這其實蠻常出現的我隨便搜尋一下2023年5月土石噴一地五股交流道前2025年3月砂石車擊殺害4名騎士慘摔跌還有 |
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剛剛我們吳清明委員所關心的土城也有大型砂石車擊殺還有中壢2024年9月所以大型砂石車不管是擊殺而造成這樣子的一個道路整個的狀況甚至造成後面用路人的一個危險那我想請教不管是公路局不管是相關單位我們有沒有針對這個部分可以來做更進一步的管制或是檢討 |
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跟委員報告就是就法令規定的部分讓他罰處罰這個是一定要的然後賠償一定要的但是假設就是說我們現在討論是防範未來的部分我要講的就是說我們會針對他的肇事資料是哪家貨運公司造成所以如果他一定期間超過幾件的時候我們就開始去跟 |
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我們監理當然就是直接找混公室直接訪查做教育訓練做處理的是這也是本席想要了解跟本席想的就是說有可能這些是累犯對因為一般來講通常會發生這個狀況有可能是超債 |
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有可能他就是債比較多然後他沒有保持適當的安全距離或者是說他讓前面的摩托車或是汽車來擊殺所以累犯的部分我們有所謂的不要說黑名單啦但我們有所謂的這個警示資料有管制有統計那目前 |
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比較常肇事的我們有哪些掌握資料我們業者我當然不能我還要再查但是就是比如說像台二線剛剛委員談到的有幾個快速到位尤其進出的時候會造成尤其是超速跟超債歡呼的這個最多所以我們都有在管制而且我們都有在注意尤其是業者的部分我們去做輔導 |
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然後做教育訓練這個部副議長這個私下請提供跟本席相關資料就是說我們怎麼樣協助業者輔導管制以及真真正正這種黑名單的部分當然如果說真的是交通意外沒有辦法避免但是如果說是有某些業者他特別警示或常出現這樣的一個狀況當然行政機關應該要介入來那另外喔 |
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淡江關渡大橋確實是非常嚴重那我們之前現在新北市府也在做這個所謂的淡北道路那我們也有在提出說要有關渡新橋的規劃那我想請教副市長淡江大橋管理單位是誰 |
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丹山大橋未來管理單位是我們公路局公路局是關渡大橋管理單位是誰我們也是我們公路局也是公路局是那關渡新橋未來管理單位或是施工計畫建設是誰 |
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這個目前應該是未來應該會納到市區道路那其實它道路定位要看新北市政府未來的規劃的定位才能決定那現在關渡新橋到底是由誰因為很多民眾也在期待啊是目前在新北市政府在辦理可行性評估當中新北市府辦理可行性評估是好可是另外一點喔副議長這個中央地方應該是一體共同同心來去做尤其是 |
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北海岸地區我想你不否認淡水現在人口越來越成長巴黎也越來越多人口成長那但關渡大橋的使用量也是全台最大嘛那關渡新橋連接淡水這一端台二線是管理機關是誰台二線目前管理機關也是我們公路局那關渡新橋連接到巴黎端大家也期待是說他能夠連接到64線64線管理單位是誰也是公路局那你會不會覺得很奇怪 |
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我今天三座橋淡江大橋是公路局關渡大橋是公路局結果我要新做關渡新橋結果是要新北市政府那關渡新橋淡水端這邊連接的道路是公路局巴黎端這邊連接的道路64線也是公路局結果我中間的橋樑是要新北市府那未來如果做起來的話那變成是特立獨行欸 |
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淡江大橋 關渡大橋是公路局管但是關渡新橋是新北市府那連接兩邊公路局管中間這段橋樑是新北市府所以 局長 副局長我現在先提出來 當然過去有很多的 不管是說我們那時候爭取淡北聯外道路的時候行政部門也是遲遲沒有拍板定案 到最後才拍板那也已經晚了兩三年的時間 |
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那但是我們現在期待的是關渡新橋趕快來施作那是不是能夠再跟新北師傅來共同討論到底現在可行明孤做完之後施工團隊計畫發包等等以及後來的維護管理我覺得這應該一比一討論吧 |
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跟委員報告這個是我們一直跟新北市政府都有在討論新北市政府他針對淡水和兩岸的道路的規劃其實他是整體的整個範圍在做處理的所以他不是主管我們的省道在處理因為整個我們省道是主幹但是其實車流都是區域性 |
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所以他整體的交通的路網怎麼建過是我們是要跟新北市政府一起來討論我們現在就講我當然是要講是一個更上位的計畫要怎麼樣來去做運輸管理因為我們不能只建零不建山只建樹不建林所以我現在在討論的我現在在提出來是說第一什麼時候新北市府可行性評估現在是新北市府這邊公務處要來做報那之後也會報給公務局 |
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也會報交通部審核到目前為止還沒有已經過了兩年了那是不是能夠關心一下因為2022年就核定的計畫嘛那時候就蘇貞昌院長還來到我們那邊拍板說淡北道路然後另外那時候也宣布說要有貫渡新橋嘛但我真的不希望說我們中央部會到最後只變成是 |
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補貼出錢的單位而中間的管理維護變成是跟地方兩個講好聽點是各自負責這樣講不好聽點就互踢皮球啊副局長這個是不是能夠我知道委員的意思啦是讓把層級拉高當然因為淡江大橋是公路局是關渡大橋是公路局沒有道理關渡新橋 |
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這樣一級吧 跟委員報告 因為關渡新橋是接淡北道路市政府管的那他未來要接到底是接台六市還是要應該未來還是接台六市啦所以需要溝通嘛 是兩邊的銜接也是公路局 好不好 |
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副議長什麼時候能夠比較明確跟新北市府討論針對關渡新橋的部分他也給本市一個後續的追蹤報告他還在其中報告還沒出來那我們會再催促新北市政府加速趕快來處理 |
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後續是不是也請給本席相關資料你們怎麼跟新北市府那新北市府現在的一個狀況我們一起共同再來這個是一個起點但是本席會持續追關渡新橋也是我們當地民眾非常期待不要說淡江大橋當然很期待但是淡江大橋也蠻久時間了那年底會完工本席也期待是說我們現在討論關渡新橋不要也拖那麼久時間我們一起來努力好嗎謝謝 |
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好 謝謝洪孟愷委員的質詢 下一位我們請 |