| IVOD_ID |
159886 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/159886 |
| 日期 |
2025-04-07 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
聯席會議-11-3-23,36-1 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期交通、司法及法制委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
1 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
23 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[1] |
36 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
交通委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[1] |
司法及法制委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期交通、司法及法制委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-04-07T10:19:02+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-04-07T10:28:59+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:57 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/c41b1a0504d137e598d85dd35135c265daa51b2df98f8e7f9acb4c1531107a79e3f5687b5b8c8e805ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
林國成 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:19:02 - 10:28:59 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-04-07T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期交通、司法及法制委員會第1次聯席會議（事由：審查一、委員蔡其昌等17人、二、委員林宜瑾等27人、三、委員楊瓊瓔等21人及四、委員徐富癸等17人分別擬具「國營臺灣鐵路股份有限公司設置條例第十條及第二十三條條文修正草案」案。
【以上各案詢答完畢後，進行處理】） |
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包主席 請我們 正是我們吳董事長 還有我們馮總經理請市長還有馮總政委好好 正是 我問這個題目台鐵董事長什麼時候產生 |
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你說未來的事對你現在是代理嘛對我現在是代理因為我現在問你是問政策長官有在有在努力在找這個適合的人選好那現在都還沒有確定就對了好那個其實政策我們很可惜的就杜威董事長其實他蠻 |
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聽底下的建議 其實工會給我的意見對他的離開有一點依依不捨其實他也是老台鐵所以當然這是一些所有所屬員工的一個心聲其實未來要找 他既然堅持要找 |
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未來要找還是要像可以聽見工會聲音的董事長所以這點我特別跟我們正式要做一個建議讓部長考慮到這個問題千萬不要以顏色之分就是專長取勝 |
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也就是用專業人才來經營台鐵公司這樣的成功率會比較高所以我特別跟政策去做一個建議現在吳董事長現在你們在做任何決策有沒有考慮因為我們台鐵有兩個工會一個企業工會一個產業工會他們的意見你們有沒有採納 |
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工會的意見杜威的時候不要講啦就是你現在在代理董事長的部分所以我跟委員報告工會意見其實我們都有在溝通他的意見我們都會來來聽聽他的意見是怎麼樣那當然如果說有不一樣意見我們會進行溝通這個部分我們都溝通的管道很暢通吳董事長我給你提供一個意見工會有四大問題第一 |
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維修預算不足的問題這個那個董事長聽完以後再來做回答另外就是留財待遇方案失敗的問題還有新人招募落後的問題還有人事政策錯誤的問題這四個問題董事長 |
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總經理也可以回答到底有沒有聽得進去那我看這四個題目很簡單耶董事長 鍾經緯這四個都是為公司好的議案啊那你們為什麼他們提出來的時候你都不要聽這是什麼意思我也不知道因為這裡面四個 |
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主題當中他沒有行司為他加薪或者為他要爭取什麼獎金等等都是為了公司經營這四個方向董事長你的看法這四個問題到底你有什麼看法剛講的預算不足我現在上任以後其實也跟到工會去跟他們談過溝通過 |
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那我想只要他提出我們目前的預算一些急迫性的預算我們這邊都一定他講的是維修啦維修預算不足的問題啦我想有他急迫性我們一定會處理因為這涉及到安全問題嘛那招募的問題呢 |
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招募問題我講這樣子因為現在我們台鐵公司有分兩個制度一個就是原來留任的留任就是原來自衛制的人所以他適用原來的那現在這個所謂的從人員他大概目前行政院也核定了一個新級的的一個那個薪水的一個方案那這裡面我剛看因為我們的他從人員他可以4.4個月原來的就職的部分留任人員大概只有2.5 |
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我想這4.4就是一個機率另外最近我們在跟部裡面我們在爭取所謂的從人員的那些危險加急還有這個偏遠地區加急的部分如果這些的部分從原來的我們的起薪大概3萬6大概可以達到4萬4左右最高可以到4萬4 |
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好了吳董我們說實在的啦 工會的意見當然我們要重視啦其實我看完這些啊還有一個最重要的我希望吳董事長要去注意就是人事政策的錯誤 |
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這個要特別因為所謂人事政策的錯誤講快一點嘛他不是這個專長然後你們擺在這個專長這個是非常嚴重所以當然這種實力也不需要一一攤在陽光下可是我必須要讓吳董事長還有馮總經理你們要去了解在整個晉升方面不能因為啊 |
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親疏遠離有所差別這樣的話就沒有公平競爭當然所有的員工他就無法去用賣命的心態去做我們的員工該做的事所以這個非常重要非常重要那個 |
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來總經理我現在就是說以為台鐵國營公司化之後應該在國安因為每一次我都問到那個安全的問題那安全的問題當然我一直在拜託各位領導幹部也就是說你應該要比照高鐵的風險管理也就是風險的監控這個部分我們接下來看 |
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我們來看一下 112年我們還是國營的時候那改為公司的話 113年為什麼他的事故本來7770件那為什麼113年又增加1009件 |
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董事長為什麼這樣總經理你還可以回答我先講一下再請總經理補充這個部分我想跟委員報告一三因為他的有零四零二就是去年零四零二地震造成尤其是花東的部分造成真的比較大的影響 |
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那以最近來講像這陣子我們發生過我也不曉得為什麼會車子會從平台開到我的軌道上因為這樣導致我雙向的都變成沒辦法通影響我一千多分鐘這我想對我們來講都是一個很大的問題扣除這些應該是跟原來可能跟去年應該是應該要更進步啦 |
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你公司化之後有很多事情就像我們下午要幫你們鬆綁了這些有關法令的限制這些等等基本上我們都支持嘛但是你不能公司化以後比國營化的時候因為國營化它法令限制比較多嘛那公司化以後它依照公司化的經營那範圍會比較大所以我還是希望最後一個 |
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我想特別要提醒董事長跟總經理也就是應安會給我們台鐵公司的應安改善的問題你們都只有做半套喔做半套這點我要提醒啊董事長就是公司的安全就是客戶的平安所以你們不能因為啊就是這個 |
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應安會給你們的東西你們都遲遲不改進這對理科是沒有保障的所以我還是希望董事長跟總經理要針對這些問題啊特別要去做一些適度的改進那當然我們也希望 |
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公司化之後當然範圍比較寬那也希望著重在旅客安全跟我們的運安安全的方面要去投入更多的改善那我憑良心講 |
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我從來不做台鐵那我為了這個事情我一直去做台鐵那做台鐵主要是試看看你們有沒有改進確實多部分的班次你們說做到準時的這個問題所以我還是要勉勵啊特別勉勵我們吳董事長還有馮總經理特別要去註解第一 |
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公會的問題第二該改進的要改進這點我特別拜託兩位可以做到這樣對理科安全平安才會有所幫助好不好這是我們應該做的好謝謝好謝謝委員 |