IVOD_ID |
159826 |
IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/159826 |
日期 |
2025-03-31 |
會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-19-6 |
會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第6次全體委員會議 |
會議資料.屆 |
11 |
會議資料.會期 |
3 |
會議資料.會次 |
6 |
會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第6次全體委員會議 |
影片種類 |
Clip |
開始時間 |
2025-03-31T11:58:30+08:00 |
結束時間 |
2025-03-31T12:05:19+08:00 |
影片長度 |
00:06:49 |
支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/22902bedf9a457e5fa17a76c09ede124ab992d8b3314b7460a011cf12bb02137465aa8e1d032cc685ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
委員名稱 |
鍾佳濱 |
委員發言時間 |
11:58:30 - 12:05:19 |
會議時間 |
2025-03-31T09:00:00+08:00 |
會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第6次全體委員會議(事由:邀請經濟部部長、農業部部長、內政部首長及國家科學及技術委員會首長就「2025年防洪抗旱計畫」進行報告,並備質詢。) |
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中午我們不休息延長開會時間到詢答結束主席在堂委員先進列席的政府金融省官員會長官員夥伴媒體記者女士先生有請我們經濟部賴次長和水利署的林署長也請農業部的黃次長和漁業署的陳副署長 |
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好 委員好 次長好 署長好 副署長好這個餘溫設施配合黃紅要合理認定那麼設施農業可以減少災損 那推廣以租代購好 首先請教我們的賴署長那個河川地可以設置餘溫嗎 |
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河川地經過評估啊在我們的管理辦法裡面我們漁溫經過許可之後是可以的是可以的嘛 經過水理分析無妨礙河防安全者在河川管理法第62條嘛那個黃市長 |
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你知道我們屏東有很多河川堤臺灣是荒溪型的平常沒有水 那河川堤有很多農民在利用副署長 副署長 陳副署長有交請過你去屏東嘛 屏東 屏北地區是不是很多漁民的漁運是設在河川堤上面平常是我們水利單位在管理嘛好 那我請問一下水利署漁運的所有設施都被允許設在河川堤裡面嗎 |
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只要剛剛特別談到無防礙對無防礙我們水流是可以設置的沒有問題在去年的9月13號就是為了能夠讓離港地區的養殖漁業用地那樣合法申請嘛他們也去登記了但是都遇到一個問題 |
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河川橋啊 都啊 你這喔 寮仔啦 放工具的啦 地皮寮的啦一個很明顯的問題 你們就知道肥料喔 飼料啦 飼料在餘溫旁邊 它一定有炸 因為怕它就糊嘛但是呢 你們說 那個是行水區 所以呢 市中的不能炸可以有門啊 門 把他封起來 怕人家吐了但是那就沒有辦法達到你那個飼料間可以防雨的效果啊 怎麼解決 有辦法解決嗎 |
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因為在這個高灘地裡面如果加蓋類似這種庫房的建築物的話我們都希望它有透水性有透水性啊你要市民弄到危起來那恐怕就是啊你市民沒危就好 那市民就擋著了所以這個有一些技術我們盡量是能夠透水的方式來處理來 次長 來次長有沒有辦法請我們的水利主管機關的協助農業部門餘溫來認定 |
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現在基本上所謂的工具間只要在一定的規模不造成妨礙水流的狀態之下但是事實上我們現在七合分數去現場看的很多是超過我們諸位想像的我瞭解但這些的部分對於水流是沒有錯我完全支持所以我希望說認定標準要一致 |
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你要知道這個漁民會活動比高 為什麼他會失敗的不行 了解齁所以我希望說次長請指示我們水利署配合我們漁政農政單位下去做合理的認定好嗎 標準把它抓出來那漁民才知道說什麼可以做什麼不可以做 好不好 可以齁沒有問題接下來我們請黃次長來來黃次長風災農損怎麼解 |
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氣候變遷我們只能靠政府的現金救助嗎我們也會強化我們的農業的韌性所以基本上在一些田間管理還有這個作物的這個焊作或者是輪作的這個部分我們都會來加強我們的輔導好謝謝 其實你們有一個做法除了現金救助之外你們農業部做了一個調查其實呢一般來講我們的現金救助平均每年只有31億 |
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農業損失大概在121億其實大部分是農民呢他七到八成是自己要承擔所以你們是鼓勵農業保險嘛對不對除了農業保險還有什麼方式可以減少農民的災損 |
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是不是我們透過設施農業,對不對?如果是溫室的設施,它可以擋風、避雨,還可以防蟲,是不是這樣子?所以農業部要鼓勵設施農業來減少包括天災、不管是旱災、水災的這樣的一個損害嗎? |
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對於這個方面我們一直都有在鼓勵好 但是問題來了來 下一頁為什麼農民他們比較不願轉從設施農業呢因為它的建置成本確實很高對 建置成本很高你馬上知道我要跟你請教的那農民沒有負擔那怎麼解決我們的農民就是有地有技術他有流動力但是他沒有資金所以我們一直 我一直在推廣農業部呢用 |
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我們本來對農民給他貸款通稅貸三分之一啦對不對但是三分之一他也在損失啦所以我就覺得說有沒有可能未來的農業會轉向農企那農企本身他的經營方式他有能力去做貸款的設定 |
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那是不是說地主農民提供土地 農企業去辦你專案貸款興建設施 農民還可以進來承租這個設施來使用像小黃瓜啦 這個茄子啦或者說其他的檳榔廢原轉做的設施 農業部知不知此 |
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對於委員這樣子把這個由這個農企業的這個部分事實上確實是也是一個選項那不過跟目前的這個我們台灣的小農的這個部分的話可能還是有一些落差但是我們願意來思考沒有錯台灣的農業是小農為主但是現在變成是老農小農變老農了 青農沒有地 |
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也沒有資金但是呢 今天老農有地 親農有勞動力如果透過農企業的介入透過 您是管農業金庫跟農金署嗎獨島啦另外一個市長獨島另外一個市長獨島 我記得是你 今天特別問你這一題那我今天選錯是不是另外一個市長是哪位市長是 |
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胡赤是胡赤在負責是吧好那不管這個事情我還在跟你們部長講簡單兩個結論請農業部加強輔導農民投入設施農業的栽培並評估由農企業來協助興建由我們農業部以租代購的方式來協助他們那也金剛那個署長也還有我們次長也下去了就是經濟部水利署請就實況研擬適當規範輔導我們的水產養殖戶在河川地上合法經營可以嗎好謝謝 |
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好谢谢 |