| IVOD_ID |
159824 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/159824 |
| 日期 |
2025-03-31 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-19-6 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第6次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
6 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第6次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-03-31T11:45:28+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-03-31T11:58:20+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:12:52 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/22902bedf9a457e594d36f8610c3d1c5ab992d8b3314b746c75f6b5b4b5fbf8cebd3dc688115573a5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
陳超明 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:45:28 - 11:58:20 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-03-31T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第6次全體委員會議（事由：邀請經濟部部長、農業部部長、內政部首長及國家科學及技術委員會首長就「2025年防洪抗旱計畫」進行報告，並備質詢。） |
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主席好 首先有請我們農業部我們的黃處長黃處長市委員好黃處長好今年我們專案在討論防洪抗旱但是我看農業部的報告裡面有農業水庫要增加清一那苗栗縣的農業水庫有幾座 |
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一共有三座,算很內行,很快清楚狀況,哪三座?明德、大埔還有一個是? |
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再稍微想想看,比較小你都忘記了,你看大不看小,叫做建壇水庫,再照瞧。你今天去,我期盼了很久,以前農業水庫要找水利子他都不管,他說屬於農業部的,今天我終於等到你了,看你們的報告有增加了一條。 |
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就是農業水庫要清理那這三個水庫大埔水庫還有明德水庫還有建壇水庫啊現在主管單位是在哪裡我要好好找到他要好好的去研究是我們農水省啦我會帶你去會刊 |
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尤其大埔水庫是鄰近的科學延期竹蘭的科學延期苗栗縣兩個重症頭文症跟竹蘭症所以那個真的要強那個汙泥到夏天的時候很臭啊今天你們提出計畫能不能幫我改善完成 |
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那至於免得水庫在乾旱的時候我有去看過那時錢都在水利市那邊你們農業部分的很少所以這樣本來要清一結果要清不清的樣子看起來是勉強而清我希望啊次長這個幫我加強改善好不好好的委員這些部分我們都會在我們的預算裡面大力的來執行 |
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這說完我會持續的追蹤蔡市長我再帶您去苗栗以下謝謝再來請我們的經濟部次我們的賴市長賴市長 |
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委員好賴次長好你當了次長隨意使跟國營事業都是你在監督管理的單位那我們高雄來的賴瑞榮委員非常優秀我非常欣佩但是關於 |
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他說啊這次電價調整不調整是將來要留給新民意啊我想說我算幾年以後什麼叫做新民意信從他叫做新民意不信從就不是新民意嘛 |
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他講的也明喔這次所謂不調整電價是為了要留給市民你不要這樣炒作啊藍部的也不要有這樣藍綠的觀念啦跟委員會說明我們在審議委員會的話完全沒有討論到這個議題沒有沒有你講的他講的很清楚就是要留給大罷免用的 |
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不增加定位如果定位一增加的時候民眾會反感他為了大罷免案所以你們執政黨不敢調整定價我感覺你們都沒擔心是因為關稅的措施而沒被宣示現在對於各國對於經濟的前景甚至為物價的波動委員會的審查日後有擔憂還是你所指定的人你大了解 |
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增資2500億你們用增資說不是補貼的再增加500億3000億你們電價調整到現在已經多收了1600億你們5000億的資本額已經給你們4600億在那一邊了怎麼會歸得那麼厲害啊 |
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我們是要面對問題我們是講你們的政策有錯誤啦當然裡面還要再去了解一下你也好好了解一下你剛剛過來我不好意思逼問了太緊但是不要有這種觀念為了大罷免不調整電價讓百姓覺得它是一種恩惠不是這樣去處理事情沒有 台電的負債比已經達到93%了 |
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那即便台電公司員工非常的努力這個狀況還是要改善都為了一時的利益政黨的利益不要這麼做啊我真的警告啦習近平沒有成功的時候他要怎麼辦大家做事情要合理公平公正嘛 |
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不要這樣亂講不是他亂講因為他是我尊重的委員可能他要選高雄市長我幫他宣傳一下好不好再來我們水利市 |
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恭喜啊,林市長,我看你報告寫得很好,有水的時候無災,用水有度,再來你說水清衣油,非常的完美,台灣真的是一個美好的社會。 |
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但是我只是說我為省議員到現在幾十年看水利局到水利市真的把主要的河川出要河川都整治的確確實實不錯我們中央管理的河川還有幾條主要的河川確實從水利局到現在已經進步很多那你今天提出來我非常欣賞的一句話就是怎樣全流域的治理 |
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就是整條街要安裝,洪水來的時候要怎樣去釋散掉那位處長你現在是變成導師我怎麼特別說這樣,我今天要特別提到,我一直在提但是不曉得是軍會的欠缺,離地山上是屬於農業部的 |
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那個裡面是在管理的那一個地方我們比較看不到在深山裡面再來深山一出來到一般的河流的時候就開始要整治這裡面也有農業部的水保室但是在這裡我一直在看剛剛你們講到淡化廠賴市長你淡化廠你們水利市一共騙了多少億算農政區請問一下 |
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一個廠差不多是300多億包括建設包括營運那建設的部分因為我們是20年所以我一直在講我還在研究這個問題 |
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講到南部的滯洪池南部的滯洪池你們少了一樣什麼叫做滯洪池要加湖流水這樣才有真正的效應因為我看過湖流水我這些年看不起這樣東西結果你們歷史做的湖流水缺水的時候真的很有需要你要往下去垂水抽出來所以說彰化廠你不只把這個湖流水滯洪池做在那邊 |
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你依照你的流域下來看它的那個高度怎麼樣你們要去排像你一潭水庫要供應給我們縣里跟通宵的結果你們都農業水都沒有用我一直在強調一件事情那個丘陵地的凹地你就去把它看這個水路怎麼走你們不要啦把它當成住房池又加了浮流水你們反而不準 |
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阿咱水包括溶水使得在灌溉水你們說喔溶液用水讓位很多你就在海邊靠近最低的地方把那些水灌溉的時候沒有用的水全部把它存到那個地方土地要買你也要買要吃你也要吃因為真正要改潔之道在這個地方尤其 |
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廖處長,你在水利市的時候還做了一個開花裡面要的排水流量就是水源都把它存起來,水要湊出來,你只要這樣,你只要當化廠蓋的整層樓,不然台灣人做千福之國,那裡面起來不用走不準。 |
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又能防治防洪,水才來最少,你有消化的地方。你這樣在地上活,你也真不...啊,我們現在怎麼喝水,就是地方自己的排水溝管理不好。像高雄哪裡有高,我來做水管,我集中在那裡把它蓋掉。你那普通的水溝不清,當然會淹水啦。這是有轉型跟沒轉型,天天都在講自己有多好。 |
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要了解經濟戰我現在還說依照這樣製黃池加忽略水大膽的去做真的台灣才會不缺水才會說你們有水無災 |
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用水的時候,大家高興用一點,不覺得怎麼樣,不要急急急急。當然像今年,我相信你水過了,你要注意防洪的問題,今年沒有旱災。但是我剛剛講的,我不曉得你們看法怎麼樣,秋林地到處哪裡都可以做我們的製索,要加浮流水。 |
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像桃園你看到很多的水塘山,你在找辦法改進做湖流水嘛,那澳白乾脆就要跳出來,水源不斷。我是醜人,但是我摸過這個地方,天天在跑,天天被罵,罵到有血淚,這樣一點姿勢,我不知道會不會痛,你告訴我。 |
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謝謝委員指導的意見多元的水資源的供給就是我們的政策目標而委員所提到方案裡面涉及到許多需要科學調查的部分在經濟部的地方中心針對於九大的地下水分區水源地址都有很好的調查 |
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也是因為這些調查包括水利署下游的地下水的調查所以我們在百年大旱每找一口井它的出水量都達到我們預期的目標但是浮流水是很好的一個水源但是要看地質狀況 |
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所以我們現在對水資源開發是適地適用,然後多元開發,還有倍元我告訴你,我告訴你幾年了,你現在要告訴我現在先去做處長,我通宵的丘陵地,燕尼的丘陵地那個地方我說你們去做一個做王子水庫精美化的作用 |
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那根本會改變當地的一個休閒產業,這點你能答應我?現在你就提出這個結尾,我跟你們說,我跟你們說啊現在海地都沒有錢,都幾千億都用在擁抱啊這個就是行政院之所以要成立水及流域永續推動小組的目的好啦,次長,講得那麼準,你想什麼計畫只要你把我們實現當是你們承諾要做的啦 |
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你們只說趴著,水沒有流逝,打井下來又抽不到水,都是表面的河口的崩潰啊我是很真心的講,好不好?你只是你的領域市長,我帶你們去看怎麼去做因為真的會做下來很漂亮,當地修行觀光產業會活化 |
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是 謝謝委員指導不是是啊 阿市長你要怎麼做 我會找你來看喔 好吧好 要多時間 要請委員長去指導沒有沒有 你不要手手給我回答一下我是跟蹤事情很緊的人謝謝委員好不好 拜託一下 這幾個問題解決我頭就不會變得那麼白了 謝謝好 謝謝 |