| IVOD_ID |
159814 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/159814 |
| 日期 |
2025-03-31 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-20-6 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期財政委員會第6次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
6 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期財政委員會第6次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-03-31T11:00:18+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-03-31T11:13:48+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:13:30 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/22902bedf9a457e5df54be70b86e4d2681b41d2d230a5ab3c75f6b5b4b5fbf8c0058b4a0f6ef72a65ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
羅明才 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:00:18 - 11:13:48 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-03-31T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期財政委員會第6次全體委員會議（事由：邀請金融監督管理委員會彭主任委員金隆、財政部、中央銀行、國家發展委員會及法務部就「如何促進台灣金融市場規模發展之執行策略（包括國際金融業務OBU，國際保險業務OIU，國際證券業務OSU)」進行專題報告，並備質詢。） |
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朱熹各位委員、朱烈熹官員大家好朱熹可不可以請監管會彭朱偉財政部阮次長、央行的朱副總裁 |
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主委好委員好你要力推台灣成亞洲的資產管理中心利益良善我們看到你從上個會期到現在 |
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很努力在做可是因為周邊單位啊步伐不一致造成啊成效不彰你們在財政部大概就是稅的部分以及央行的部分你們有沒有成為一個一個team財經的team然後可以真的來支持你成為亞洲的 |
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這個資產管理中心那我請問一下財政部那因為主推的是金管會嘛財政部準備好了嗎我們基本上協助金管會來推動這個亞洲資產管理中心會全力支持還是做一半我們當然全力支持比如說最近在修OIU條例我們就同意嘛謝謝 央行那請問央行也準備好了嗎 |
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我們現在有兩個部分有一部分就是在報告中寫的 已經做的還有一部分是因為要配合金管會這邊有時系我們在那裡弄所以在我們報告中有四個部分第四點 雅灣專區這邊副總裁這樣 你準備好了沒啊 |
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是準備在修正,我們外匯局有個team因為我看到主委他很積極,畢竟剛剛上任以彭主委他是點子王,以及他看起來比較年輕比較有很高的理想,想要做點事 |
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可是,現在即便匯20萬回來,你央行也查三次、四次啊,台幣喔那你每次都是,當然啦,你們都說是要查一些這個什麼洗錢啊等等的齁,那請問央行 |
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已經洗了這個三年多了說要找這個洗錢的國際的什麼洗錢請問央行啊你們這幾年有發現哪一筆是洗錢的比較大筆的有沒有我想這個應該不是央行業務對不對有沒有啦我問一下因為這個是外匯局外匯局你們管的沒關係你是副總裁可能剛來還不大清楚來外匯局 |
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因為你要成為亞洲的資產管理中心勢必需要一個很自由進出的金融中心當然你的管控是在你的核心那應該是要利益良善 |
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就是鼓勵為普遍那有問題你再特例抓出來好我們再回歸到這個問題央行這去年啊去年一整年你們查獲的洗錢有幾例金額是多少我想洗錢不是我們央行這邊去去查或怎麼樣那他銀行之間會去通報那個洗錢的主管機關 |
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所以我們央行的立場來講最主要還是為了假設不是扣除洗錢方面的我們的那五十萬、一百萬相關的一些目前的規範大概都是最主要還是為了編制我們的國際收支所需來做這樣的一個銀行端會報給我們大概都是為了方便我們做比較準確的國際收支的一個編制所以去年一整年所謂的洗錢防治真正查到國際洗錢的有幾筆 |
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總金額有多少這跟委員報告我們回去check一下就是我們目前應該是我了解是應該沒有這樣的一個每次回答都check一下你不是要說亞洲資產管理中心嗎所以當主委在往前衝的時候你們都在後面扯後腿 |
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所以你造成現在的情況是普遍的台商在講你五十萬八十萬明明人家學他的兒子小孩就在英國念書匯錢過去匯是匯到學校你一次要問三次要問四次 |
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主委如果存在的情況是這麼嚴苛請問你要做的亞洲資產管理中心有哪一個人的錢願意回來台灣當然我們現在 |
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其實從金額來看我們確實在推動這個過程當中已經在逐步顯現成效也跟剛剛委員稍微這個說明一下其實我們各個部會在過去我們非常非常密集的溝通那沒有委員講說他們就扯後腿那主委你記得因為各個部會有他自己非常專業的考量我們都尊重但是我們持續的希望他給我們一些協助也有若干的時間了 |
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大概還沒超過30年其實我們一般的公務人員大家都很認真唯一要突破的一個破口就是你把三個單位因為你每次我發現你要推都是A推B B推C答案永遠說我要再查查看我再去了解一下有幾個案例那洗錢總共有多少錢每次都有不斷的科目會出現 |
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那造成你的推動力道明顯的打折我建議一個可以解決你的方法這個方法是累積多年的經驗如果你這個方法做起來做不成那你來找我我請你吃一碗牛肉麵你要不要試試看這個方法呢說難也不難你就把三個單位 |
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重要的單位重要的人可以決定的人你全部叫過來從現在現在是早上現在11點嘛你就說我們為了推動台灣成為亞洲的資產管理中心大家心裡都沒有障礙就從現在11點現在11點開始開會開到中午肚子餓了叫便當 |
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還沒有結論沒有關係到了晚上給他們選擇繼續吃便當你總要給他選擇啊吃這個排骨飯或是雞腿飯或是什麼飯通通可以你要讓他們有選擇晚上開完還沒有結論繼續開吃宵夜所以你要有這個精神才有辦法突破 |
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不然我看半年以來所謂OBU OIU OSU特別OIU的部分有沒有成果 |
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OIU的部分剛剛有說明過去年基期很低今年我們有開放新商品跟新的做法我應該很有信心應該一定會有一些成果今天是幾月了今天是3月31號這個截至3月底之前OIU做了幾件金額是多少去年我們有個金額我們請局長待會馬上補充過來局長馬上說去年沒有嘛今年做了多少 |
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注意聽喔 這很重要是 報告委員 今年的到1月份的那個有效契約件數不好意思 有效契約件數總共有672件那保費收入100多件 總金額多少到今年1月底的總金額有1600億左右1000多對 1600億 保費收入1000多億是不是抱歉 1000多萬 |
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哇 我看一張 我以為是不是一千多億所以一百多件 總共是多少大聲一點 勇敢說出來 |
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到今年一月份為止是一千六百萬哇 一千多萬我們龐大的團隊我想所有東西都一定要不要講OSU 來講一下有幾件OSU 我們拒絕同仁來給委員這個數字 |
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那我們是不是OBU要準備一下好OBU不用啦因為OBU大家都很熟OSU的部分總共幾件那總金額多少一千七百多萬多少一千多一千多億一千七百對一千七百一千七百二十五億美元一千多億是不是對對一千多億一千多億美元喔每一千七百 |
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交易量對,就1700多億美元多億?有那麼多?有啊,OSUC有那麼多那它那個內容是什麼?為什麼這個金額會?是因為都是外資嗎?外資的進出還是? |
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主要是智盈的部分智盈的買賣所產生的智盈 買台股嗎買台股OK那我們發現買台股的部分今天那個股市暴跌 |
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今天波動比較大所以我剛剛講那個數字你再參考看看其實那個金額也不多啦因為買賣買賣像台灣的平均量那個成交量就大概五千多億了嘛所以你這個加一加其實跟你的目標還相距非常遠總之我希望你們這個三個單位要合作 |
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那當然我們會持續交談合作然後努力的達成協議做出成績好 那請問一下主委今天股市為什麼暴跌 |
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今天我想因為很多原因啦當我說今天早上從我們我們前一天我們的期貨那個收盤美國大概也我們相關聯動比較高的指數呢也做了蠻大的修正啦所以我們台灣是反映這個國際股市大概這樣一個情形所以台股會不會再跌這我不是分析師我無法做對未來做預測如果台股再暴跌的話國安基金會不會進場 |
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我想這一次這個股市不是只有台灣的股市是全球股市都受到美國關稅政策的影響所以現在充滿了不確定性關稅政策的影響我上次在這邊質詢的時候所有的官員說影響不大結果影響不大台積電已經破一千塊了一直質疑 |
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直墜式的下滑股市最怕的就是不確定性跟預期心理所以像這種到目前因為他是講說4月2號他要宣布他的政策所以現在大家都在觀望所以台股如果再跌1000點破2萬以後國安基金會不會進場這個我們到時候會評估到時候會如果有必要的話會召開這個相關委員會議那麼來就可能會進場也可能不會進場 |
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會討論這個事情會討論這個事 國安基金會討論這個事可是國安基金的規模只有五千億啊主委你希望多少億的規模才會夠彭主委這個金管會員沒辦法去對這個做評論因為這個畢竟我們對資本市場我們是一個資本市場的監理現在是五千億吧那個要由主政單位來決定那你覺得夠不夠 |
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因為9年前規模只有7兆多現在市值的規道已經超過了幾億幾兆70兆左右我來說明一下可以嗎因為我們國安基金會成立的時候是民國89年那時候的市值大概是7兆多 |
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大概八九兆最近大概七十幾兆有一點修正超過九倍多我想就是說你可能會後找個時間到羅明財委員的辦公室 |