| IVOD_ID |
159776 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/159776 |
| 日期 |
2025-03-31 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-20-6 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期財政委員會第6次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
6 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期財政委員會第6次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-03-31T09:27:59+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-03-31T09:37:21+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:22 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/22902bedf9a457e5cec32a28ebdf360e81b41d2d230a5ab3e0e68ba40c49a00ffd677b50cfd03a095ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
吳秉叡 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:27:59 - 09:37:21 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-03-31T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期財政委員會第6次全體委員會議（事由：邀請金融監督管理委員會彭主任委員金隆、財政部、中央銀行、國家發展委員會及法務部就「如何促進台灣金融市場規模發展之執行策略（包括國際金融業務OBU，國際保險業務OIU，國際證券業務OSU)」進行專題報告，並備質詢。） |
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主席 麻煩請金管會彭主委好 彭主委委員早早齁 早剛剛各單位的報告都看了一下這個 |
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超額儲蓄過去累積10年已經達到30兆以上然後去年一年是4兆多一點點那這樣一直不停的累積喔如果不想辦法要處理用這麼大的資金在追求小的少的資產的話那個資產會 |
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等於就是會過熱了導致很多方面包括不動產的不適當的高漲跟這個可能都有一點關係所以如何可以增加台灣的財富對其他的國家的投資尤其是美國川普總統上台之後 |
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川普總統他現在就是譬如說提出的對等關稅等等就是要站在美國的立場希望大家能夠平等的對待他尤其台灣是對美國非常高的貿易順差去年就有700多億739億美金所以是對美國第六大的全美國統計 |
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台灣是對他是第六大的這個順差的國家那在這樣的狀況之下賴總統有鑒於這一點他也曾經提倡說希望台灣的廠商如果美國的投資環境適當的時候然後他策略上認為可以的話應該擴大對美國的投資這一點不知道你的看法怎麼樣 |
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我想我們在推動這個計畫的時候其實本來就是希望我們國人的財富能夠做更合理的運用那不要過度集中在某一些特定的這個方向去那也是這要必須透過專業的人來 |
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來做一個規劃當然比如說我們台灣的這個投資的工具或市場可能沒辦法容納台灣這麼多的這個資金所以勢必有一部分是要合理的分配在海外去做這樣的一個投資像比如我們過去很多金融業的資產就是做這樣這個分配但是我們希望說能夠有一個更專業的方式來幫國人來做這件事情 |
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如果現在政府的角度是希望台灣優良的廠商可以去美國當然經過那公司的評估去做比較多一點的投資那你贊不贊成台灣的個人在跟美國平等互惠狀況之下讓個人也能夠多一點到美國去投資 |
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這個跟委員報告我想所以我們其實上很難用政策去限制一個資金的完整的流向當美國的機會比較多他的相對的國際的資金的競爭力強他自然就會引導那個資本過去那我的意思是說我們在政府政策上應該要 |
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讓這些錢能夠留在台灣建設台灣促進我們產業的發展這是雙向的 |
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那我覺得我們不會去刻意的去說那個錢一定要留在台灣假設國外有很好的我們也透過專業的團隊來幫我們的不管是個人或法人來做這樣的一個安排 |
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投資的目的是要獲利啦投資的目的不是說錢跑去美國然後就留在那邊主要看機會還有就是它未來的譬如說很多的台灣的這個大型的保險公司也在美國買了非常多的美債啊美國公債啊那全世界認為說這是信用平等最好的不會跳票的等等投資的目的是為了要賺錢嘛是 安全跟賺錢問題是這樣子啊你光只有台灣這一方面的法令放寬 |
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還不夠啊你跟美國之間有沒有辦法可以談一個平等互惠譬如說讓台灣的個人直接投資美國的股市呢不要現在主要的管道都要經過副委託啊 |
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那可以降低中間的這些勞費啊有沒有辦法這一點當然是國際資金呢他會尋找一個降低交易成本的方式因為主要是我們現在我們國內有相關的產業比如我們證券業他就從事這個業務所以我們當然是站在我們自己的法規架構下面才會衍生出這個付委託的一個架構我想相對從對方國家大概也會有這樣的一個考慮啦我想 |
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但是我們在國際上的交易現在越來越大越來越透明很多人他也有辦法透過自己的力量直接可以去做這個買賣不過就是相對他有一定的門檻跟所謂的這個對這個金融市場的理解 |
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如果你有綠卡或是說你是有雙重國籍你投資直接投資美國股市沒有問題啦那現在問題是說能不能對談我知道現在我有問過國內的證券業者他們說要去美國為什麼要用付委託的方式因為你去美國的交易所你要去註冊變成他們的會員那個會費相當的高啊還有保管銀行的問題啦就是相應你的錢你的那個款券那些都要有一個機構在那邊 |
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那我的意思是說我們有沒有這樣的想法跟一個這麼大的這個可以投資標的國家 |
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台灣直接投資美國美國直接投資台灣互相之間把這個法令把它處理好讓兩邊的人要投資都很方便那我們台灣就可以我不用經過這麼麻煩的手續我也不用經過這麼多的這個這個不用這麼多的費用然後我就直接可以投資美國的股市呢那美國人也可以直接來投資台灣的股市呢對這個是雙向互利的方式來做啦就是說所以這部分 |
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我們前一陣子也有請我們政企局去檢討比如說外國人投資台灣的一些的方式我想這部分這個方向我們來請我們的同仁針對這部分能不能針對這個東西來做一些分析跟做一些看看有什麼我們可以降低交易成本然後可以增加雙方投資因為畢竟我們要發展資金流通的一個中心能夠更方便我想交易成本更低應該是一個方向 |
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而且這有一個好處啊你投資可以希望我們的企業多投資美國那我們個人的資金也投資美國的股市那美國的資金也可以投資台灣的股市那這樣雙方面之間的更加緊密的結合嘛 |
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其實現在是這個機制是有的我們會來考慮就是說這樣的機制有沒有一些比如交易成本比較高的地方我們再來想因為其實我們外國人投資台灣的這個股市其實管道非常所以我們現在外資大概佔43%其實那個比重也是有的只是說剛剛委員所指教說假設個人的部分有沒有還有什麼其他可以來檢討的讓這部分可以更為順暢如果因為其實現在這個 |
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網路的關係這個資訊都是很充足的那美國的市場大家認為他的公式公信他的街市是更清楚的那所以如果投資美國市場是台灣投資人的一個選擇的話那當然還是在中央銀行管制的現在說一個人一千萬美金以下啦等等這些那些的管制還是可以在的 |
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但是如何讓台灣的人便利那我覺得金融會不會有這樣的想法如果有這樣的想法的話那是不是要跟美國這邊的政府對政府部門之間來去談這個如何來平等互惠然後讓雙方的國人都能夠比較方便的方式啊 |
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這跟我們其實上我們在壯大我們的資本市場計畫裡面怎麼樣擴大我們國際間比如資本市場的合作就是我們交易所也在推動像我們在推動那個ETF雙掛牌其實某種程度的精神是很類似的就是希望說兩方的資金相互投資能夠更便利除了標的以外還有整個流程的部分我想我們會再請我們交易所還有就是我們的 |
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但是ETF畢竟是一包的那我也不想要如果有人是對這個比較內行的我要直接舉一個例子現在特斯拉跌很多嘛那我直接下去買特斯拉的股票假設他的研究是這樣的話那這樣子可以讓他方便嗎等等這是整個比較大問題的框架所以這一方面也是可以努力的 |
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當然就是整個我們推動國際的這個所謂的資金的流通那怎麼樣強化這競爭因為他想要他跟其他國家的交易是這樣那我們所障礙多一分我們的競爭力就少一個那這當然很自然好那這個就是謝謝希望你們能夠在這方面加強努力謝謝好 謝謝委員 謝謝 |