IVOD_ID |
159758 |
IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/159758 |
日期 |
2025-03-27 |
會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-26-4 |
會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
會議資料.屆 |
11 |
會議資料.會期 |
3 |
會議資料.會次 |
4 |
會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
26 |
會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
影片種類 |
Clip |
開始時間 |
2025-03-27T13:11:23+08:00 |
結束時間 |
2025-03-27T13:21:57+08:00 |
影片長度 |
00:10:34 |
支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/ae27c1b40c0db900791a170e72b169f97648dfe0a0275fc53cf129e64e549d191b9d0562b452a15f5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
委員名稱 |
楊曜 |
委員發言時間 |
13:11:23 - 13:21:57 |
會議時間 |
2025-03-27T09:00:00+08:00 |
會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第4次全體委員會議(事由:邀請衛生福利部、勞動部、國家發展委員會、教育部、法務部針對「少子女化衝擊,如何營造友善托育環境」進行專題報告,並備質詢。) |
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謝謝主席主席請一下衛福部理事長養委員好市長好市長就是少子化是一個全球性的問題啊是是沒錯我們看就是我國的爭議率是一路下滑沒錯 |
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南韓比較特殊南韓曾經是總和生育率全球幾乎是最低的他們在2024年也就是去年他們的生育率有微乎的回升 |
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請教一下次長你們有沒有研究到底是什麼原因非常感謝委員的關心據我所知去年的數字它本來是確實全世界競賠莫作就TFR是0.7去年大概回到0.76 |
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那這個其實對韓國人就很大的一個改變那據我了解因為我之前在學界也認識很多很多韓國的一個朋友其實昨天就有韓國學者也有來拜訪我我有這個問題我要請教他是說他們最近確實有一些除了津貼之外另外其實公托啦他們公托的比例老實說確實比我們高這是第二個重點第三個最重要的就是其實各地方政府他們的社會住宅 |
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他們的住宅啦住宅那邊的可以讓就是說他有分胎次別嘛一胎二胎三胎他的這一個補助的額度確實比台灣來得更高那我覺得這確實台灣應該要來借進的地方就是你總是讓其實韓國他們在最近這幾年他們的房價也漲得非常非常驚人那年輕人也付不起跟台灣同樣問題可是他們用社會住宅這一個方式我覺得確實應該可以來考慮我這個 |
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當然社宅好像不是衛福部那部分比較是內政部用社宅來當作誘因我個人也覺得好像是一個很很好的方法可以就這樣子就是他們的公托做得比我們好沒錯然後他們的社宅的誘因誘高沒錯還有嗎 |
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還是我這裡還有一個問題就是因為只有一年啦所以也不見得因為他大概就是只有去年才開始所以可能可能還需要長期觀察那你提的 |
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那公托的部分零到二歲是你對 我們的分工是這樣你要不要也直接講一下就是好 各位委員包括我們現在目前有關公托的部分我們現在目前主要就是有一些一些托育方面的一些設施那這裡面包括就是說我們現在目前各位委員包括我們現在目前有總共497 |
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497的這個托林中心嘛那我們現在目前接下來我們會來趕快來做這個積極的佈建那今年應該會再多增加46處嘛還會增加大概94處那預計可以再多增加3000名的這個小朋友 |
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那也就是說現在497我們就算500啦那你們在多久之內會再增加這個 |
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大概時程大概多久一般我們大概到一個據點的推估大概都在兩年左右那但是其實大概到即使到今年都一直陸陸續續各縣市政府還有在額外再申請的所以這個數字還在持續的增加當中對因為托嬰中心除了其他的配備以外便利性也是一個很重要的就是怎麼讓怎麼廣布據點 |
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當然啦 要廣佈據點拖延人力的還是有問題啦所以整個政策其實我們不能只看一個點啦只看一個點都會覺得好像很容易啦不過不管怎麼樣就是 |
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很感謝次長大概也就之前的經歷所以剛好有外國的朋友可以跟我做溝通今天也就很快速的回答了這兩個你剛才說是三個可是我聽是一個托育一個是托育另外一個是住宅就兩個嘛 |
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因為還有一個就補貼啦他們也一樣跟台灣也有這一個因為補貼好像也都比我們高這個數字我必須要再來這邊認一下我們現在目前大概就是一五六七我這邊有資料啦不過就是 |
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時間的關係所以我可能不那個就是確實他們的補貼也比我們高不過各類補貼也是要看政府的整體財政那我也希望因為我們常常講說少子女化其實是一個國安的危機沒錯這個我們確實就是盡可能的我們把別人 |
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別人在推的好的政策好像剛剛次長講的涉災的部分我們可能也會跟內政部來做一個討論那托育的部分不管0到2歲或者是以上的是屬於教育部我也都希望能夠趕快去廣布據點培養人力讓年輕的父母其實確實是 |
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職業家庭兩頭燒有它一定的困難點太困難它就越不想生嘛所以我們還是盡可能用政府的力量來協助他們好謝謝次長次長請回感謝委員謝謝主席我請一下勞動部理事長 |
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養委員好市長好市長我因為時間的關係所以我就簡單問一個問題你們現在在研議要修正就業保險法就是讓雙清假如領滿6個月的育嬰留職停薪的可以再增加一個月這是你們的方向是不是可是每年我們大概有9萬個人來 |
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來申請一因留職去年是九萬三千對不對那假如按照你們現在的規定就是雙親都要滿六個月才各加一個月是不是這樣子對方向是這樣那這樣子可以受惠的是只有兩萬一千人左右我們的資料是大概這樣子我提一個建議是 |
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你們要不要 因為我們現在是一流值可以申請勞保投保薪資的八成的津貼嘛 |
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六成然後補貼兩成六成補貼兩成那能不能就是不要用六個月來算因為六個月來算就是只有大概兩成多一點的人有申請育嬰留職的人數裡面只有大概兩成多一點點的人可以享受到政府的這一項鼓勵 |
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能不能從勤領的部分譬如說政府勤領六成嘛政府補貼兩成嘛能不能直接就是政府補貼兩成五或者是三成市長懂我的意思嗎 |
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用公務預算是不是不是你們現在這兩層是用公務預算多這個月你們也是有兩層是公務預算六層是基金那就是公務預算的部分 |
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你們應該要去思考看看,能不能不要用各滿六個月,各加一個月。就是有請領的,就直接是基金負擔六成,然後公務預算負擔兩成五到三成。 |
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了解我的意思這樣子可以受惠的人數比較多其實我時間的關係因為雙親都必須要滿12個月對很多家庭其實是有譬如說父母親離異的啦比較會有一些 |
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困難出來所以就直接假如說我們有打算要多鼓勵就直接是在經營的層數上做增加是了解委員的意思我沒有要你在這邊直接回答不過你們這個真的可以回去做個思考謝謝主席 |