| IVOD_ID |
159740 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/159740 |
| 日期 |
2025-03-27 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-23-4 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期交通委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
4 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
23 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
交通委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期交通委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-03-27T11:45:06+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-03-27T11:56:24+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:11:18 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/ae27c1b40c0db900e6692ed9b84f74d12ba64e6561398ad09b62a44c83059aaf93c5041e5e26a2c65ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
林國成 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:45:06 - 11:56:24 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-03-27T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期交通委員會第4次全體委員會議（事由：邀請國家通訊傳播委員會代理主任委員陳崇樹列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。） |
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請陳代主委陳代主委因為我在想一項我在問政是較為理性就事論事但是我也知道NCC從頭開始讓我進入立法院以後 |
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我一直都非常關心NCC當然因為這個單位是一個專業獨立單位但是我要奉勸陳代主委跟所有的官員不要跟他們搞政治甚至於你來看我的時候從陳耀祥 |
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翁代主委到你現在我都提供很多很多的解套方式但是你們從來是不會做的當然或許我這些解套都是基於站在我們貴單位的立場來做解套幾例 |
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陳耀祥的時候 進電視的小組 我當召集人我說你資料給我 法驗調走的你不要給我從來也不給我第二個 我們翁代主委的時候 他跟我講 |
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只要他通過什麼資料都給我我就感覺很奇怪他要通過在什麼資料才給我但是還是沒有解決但是陳代主委你來看我的時候我還是一直鼓勵你NCC是一個獨立單位NCC是一個專業審查的單位不要太有政治性的東西 |
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所以從早上到現在我剛剛代理主席的時候我看到每一個委員不要任何事情就是立法院我現在只有一個很簡單的例子我要請教陳代主委我們NCC的現在花園人是誰黃祖蜜黃祖蜜嘛好 |
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黃淑敏 人家剛才魯明哲委員已經講得很清楚 你講ECMO理論幹什麼所以這些東西啊 我說實在的花園人說實在的 代表單位在花園的時候 要特別小心好 陳主委 我話再說回來現在我們貴單位 NCC的委員 |
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也就是王政家委員他公然造謠他造謠他的理由就說現在委員不足的當中就是通通立法院他在他的臉書公開的採訪都這樣講陳太主委這個事情怎麼處理 |
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香港人報告NCC委員都是獨立行駛之前獨立行駛之前是業務之內啊陳主委 |
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不能這樣 不要閃避這種東西我可以跟你講政策性的東西跟行政院長的職權我不會要求你做但是現在你是代主委耶怎麼一個委員可以代表我們單位去講這些東西來攻擊立法立法院說現在 |
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沒有委員就是立法院他可以這樣狗斷嗎我們對媒體是在管這些造謠等等不實報導的東西那你現在NCC的委員公然去造謠到底是誰的錯那我現在問你一句話請問一下 |
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我們的預算 業務會如何去刪 那是另外一回事我們的解凍案 你有沒有送上來啦 有沒有程序進行中但是 陳代主委 我特別提醒你交通委員會有幾個單位 都已經送進來了 |
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我們兩位召委不是喜智捷排就是我排我們很樂意趕快解凍不要一天到晚好像師父我們立法宴是不動情理好像故意要現在是反而你們行政單位一直在指責立法宴 |
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所以陳太子委我一再我一再再強調NCC的單位它是獨立單位它是一個專業單位它是有一定的威信不要太政治化這是我一直在勉勵你的就是該怎麼做就怎麼做行政該怎麼走就該怎麼走我必須要提醒你該送的就趕快送所以啊 |
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這個部分我還是希望我們陳代主委這委員可以單獨公開去批評立法院嗎我現在很納悶的是這一點跟委員報告如果在機關的領域內的機關在公領域特別是機關NCC領域內的部分當然是合一制沒有個人的色彩那這邊我們都謹守分級那這個之外的部分就尊重每個人的言論自由 |
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這個就言論自由 奇怪啦跟你們有關的就談言論自由我跟你講喔 陳太祖偉我一向我不喜歡對就對 不就都不對我不喜歡在那邊閃來閃去 那沒有意義啦總是要見公婆的陳太祖偉 總是要見公婆 我拜託你 |
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查清楚他是代表誰講說委員是造成今天的局面都是立法院這個是有業務利弊關係耶他如果去表述他邪術法律的見解我沒有意見可是把所有責任推到立法院來這點我不認同所以主委你認為還是言論自由嗎 |
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他就是NCC委員嘛 |
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主委這你就要調查嘛你要約束嘛就像我剛才當主席你們的人把我當成太次長這樣不好嘛沒規律不好互相尊重是有必要的這些本來就是要這樣啊不是這樣嗎所以我還是要拜託下個禮拜我還是排NCC |
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如果你沒有妥善的調查清楚他什麼樣的原因指責立法院全部的責任那很簡單我跟你講我下個禮拜還要追 |
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我下個禮拜還要追那剛好很不幸這會期我是當召委所以這件事情他如果不解釋清楚我一定會盯到底我先跟你講另外一個就是主委我說實在的我要很冒昧的請教你750塊3C的審查費你們怎麼算出來的 |
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我們是根據規定法第七條辦理審查要收行政規費行政規費包括人工產品直接費用還有材料還有包括其他的間接費用部分對謝謝我們這個請我們處長來補充好你怎麼算出來了我想來想去有時候真的他買一個3C產品差不多50塊或100塊啊你們審查費就要750塊請問一下有人這樣的嗎 |
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報告委員那個他3C的產品上面他必須要有那個海關的身份證跟姓名然後他要放上行入還有一個切結書那我們要去這個你們已經送到宴會裡來要延期可能我下個禮拜也有排這個審查啦那我希望 |
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548.686 |
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572.507 |
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處長這裡你們怎麼審查的依據計算出來的東西私底下提供給我們本委員會好不好我們才知道你們這個750說要收就收 說不收就不收這個牽涉到人民的利益關係你們做就做 不做就不做你們說要收750那行政院院長講一句話就會造成民怨你們就馬上收回來 |
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573.488 |
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591.117 |
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我們立法院就是你們備查不備查隨便你們要就要不要就不要這樣的話是有一點似乎不太尊重立法院的意思陳主委所以我希望處長你還是要提供這些資料最後我還要用一點時間就是 |
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很多同仁都已經談到換照的問題嘛那其實不是我們不審啊你看公平會也審完了啊 |
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那怎麼會不審呢 不是不審的問題啊所以我還是希望啦 因為電視公務台這個也是一個非常嚴重的因為接下來也要審嘛那所以我最後我還是要拜託就是亡羊補老的動作 |
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654.409 |
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該做的還是要做還是要回歸原來也就是行政無法處理當然你們就不能用行政去處分這些人要延期不延期或者什麼原因應該要讓業者去了解所以不要中斷不要把中斷的責任全部推給立法院這樣的話不好啦 |
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因為你們是專業單位真的不要寫政治啊那這樣不好因為你們是專業單位你們是獨立單位所以獨立行駛發揮專業的監督這是很重要的好不好 主委好 沒問題那750那個要提供給粉絲好不好沒問題好 謝謝謝謝學業委員謝謝教委 |