IVOD_ID |
159714 |
IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/159714 |
日期 |
2025-03-27 |
會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-19-5 |
會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第5次全體委員會議 |
會議資料.屆 |
11 |
會議資料.會期 |
3 |
會議資料.會次 |
5 |
會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
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19 |
會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第5次全體委員會議 |
影片種類 |
Clip |
開始時間 |
2025-03-27T11:34:16+08:00 |
結束時間 |
2025-03-27T11:43:14+08:00 |
影片長度 |
00:08:58 |
支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/ae27c1b40c0db9005f283f6c67b2e0e51e62e9fce1db2a03b9e3eaef4bc790330a97a5adeee0372c5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
委員名稱 |
伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe |
委員發言時間 |
11:34:16 - 11:43:14 |
會議時間 |
2025-03-27T09:00:00+08:00 |
會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第5次全體委員會議(事由:邀請國家發展委員會主任委員、農業部部長、內政部首長、財政部首長、行政院主計總處首長就「鄉村發展總體檢討及如何提升城鄉發展韌性之規劃方向」進行報告,並備質詢。【3月26日及27日二天一次會】) |
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謝謝主席有請國土署徐彥新副署長好請副署長委員午安午安我們的國土計劃法在修法之後呢延後了6年所以在國土計劃法的第45條呢也做了這樣的一個修正文字也就是說 |
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直轄市縣市主管機關 要在直轄市縣市國土計畫公告實施後的10年內依中央主管機關指定之日期 以並公告國土功能分區圖所以在這邊先請教一下副署長 |
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除了南投縣以外21個直轄市縣市政府都已經把國土功能分區圖報請內政部的國土計畫審議委員會來審議那請教一下審了沒有報告我們陸續都在審然後有9個已經那個審議通過了好那請教一下那9個審議完成的修正核定之後可以公告嗎會公告嗎現在我們 |
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全部來一起通告政策是這樣子政策全部一起公告法規也是這樣子定的所以是說10年內公告沒有因為就是現在還有陸續在審的還有你剛剛講的南投所以要全部22個是 |
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全部審完一併公告那我現在就是要來關心這個問題我請教一下內政部有來核定補助原民地區的鄉村地區這樣的一個經費就是所謂的鄉規從110年度那你們最後一筆113年度的最後一筆呢是仁愛鄉對不對那我請教一下今年會繼續補助嗎 |
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會繼續會繼續補助那我再請教一下那沒有審議沒有核定國土功能分區那這些鄉村地區整體規劃能執行嗎因為如果還沒通過就是適用區域計畫法的相關的審議跟開發許可的機制那這個機制因為大家都有鄉規那鄉規 |
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一旦經過這個地方鄉村剛才講地方創生等等東西都會整合在一起對空間有一定的看法的規範那這就會是我們不管是地方跟中央都會依這個東西來做相關的審查所以意思就是說從110年度獲得核定補助的其實他也已經完成了也結案了那請教一下副署長他下一步要幹嘛 |
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你說接下來要做那個那就要經過公告之後我們會有另外一塊下一個步驟的通盤檢討那請教副署長那公告什麼時候您這樣看就我們立場應該是越快越好因為他說10年內公告嘛是所以全部22個走完就會公告 |
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對 如果大家都在這個過程中可以公告我們就公告副組長我要讓您了解一下我上個禮拜我有去萊義高中借一個教室去主持一個會議可能您也很清楚知道我們原住民有很多很多的土地問題而且非常難解那這些人其實引頸氣盼 |
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我們國土計畫法如果按照原定5月1號上路就可以解套但是呢他們對於延後6年要繼續等6年非常的無奈因為他們等了很久那幾戶人家很特別因為呢他們那個地方都沒有所有權那更何況水電表 |
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講難聽一點都是私階也沒有門牌號很辛苦可是呢我現在特別講一下這個仁愛鄉因為這是我上上個禮拜我也去做會刊因為南投縣仁愛鄉他是最後一個他是在紀錄上他最後一筆拿到鄉規那這是他的公墓在例行的一個公墓那他們的部落的村長所有的人呢 領長都一起來拜託為什麼 |
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因為您看一下這個他的土地建物的查詢資料他這個使用的分區他叫森林區他叫森林區那您也很清楚 |
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按照我們非都變更邊定的原則這種森林區是萬萬絕對沒有辦法變更為殯葬用地所以他們當初一直在等這個鄉規啊國土公門分區啊就一直等他們過去想要申請我們的殯葬量能計畫 |
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一直沒有辦法 就在等這個國土計畫是他們唯一的解套完了 要等六年然後呢 這個殯葬量能提升計畫編到114 也不知道有沒有下一期 |
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其實這樣的問題在原鄉地區很多很多原本以為5月1號就要上路的國土計劃法可以讓這些歷史塵蚵一一的被解決掉完了就沒辦法所以呢我請教一下就是副署長像這樣的一個狀況您覺得怎麼辦 |
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這個案子的詳細狀況例如他還有什麼敏感什麼東西我比較不清楚這部分個案部分我們可以會後我們去 |
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我們請我們組裡面 科裡面去看是怎麼樣可以去幫忙那就是來我辦公室看怎麼協助解決嗎可以嗎可以好 謝謝那副處長我請您看一個圖一樣就是國土計畫法它在第15條它有寫直轄市縣市國土計畫每5年通盤檢討一次這個是沒有修的但是你看這個圖 |
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直轄市縣市國土計畫已經公告在110年已經公告那現在問題來了國土公能分區延後就是到120年那剛才我講的相規從110年就開始做了直到現在 您說也會繼續補助 |
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好那現在呢按照我剛才念的直轄市縣市國土計畫通盤檢討沒有修所以他是維持每5年檢討一次所以預計他是會落在115年我現在就想問那鄉村地區整體規劃他到底是要等120年的還是等115年應該是全面實施之後 |
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所以我就是想要來請教一下副署長您的意見我認為是為了不打劫也不違法我是希望內政部乾脆就以115通檢來做一個標準 |
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我希望各縣市國土功能分區先到先審可以先公告核定那第二個部分就是我也希望內政部這邊殯葬量能提升計畫能夠持續的提報編列經費因為很多地方都還很辛苦特別我提到原住民族地區從日本人來從室內葬要在戶外葬戶外葬之後土葬現在又要改成火葬 |
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我們其實是一直在適應國家的法令要有一個適應期但是我們也希望我們的政府能夠體恤也能夠給我們繼續的來等候我們所有的人都願意跟上政府的政策計畫副組長這樣可以嗎有關這個先審先核定因為剛剛已經講在法裡面的規定我們也必須要依法決定那可以以115為基準嗎 |
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應該現在法院沒辦法去做這件事情但是因為已經有相規指導的跟我們區計在審查的相關的這個配套跟部分那個署長也有指示我們組裡面去看去盤整看是這些指引跟準則跟地方線是第一線的問題這部分我們來做調節應該可以解決 |
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一部分的問題好 那我希望這兩個部分我聽起來就是有不錯的一個態度的表示那我們就希望到辦公室來看怎麼樣來解決這些遇到困難的部落好不好是好 謝謝副組長 謝謝主席 |