| IVOD_ID |
159646 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/159646 |
| 日期 |
2025-03-26 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-19-5 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第5次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
5 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第5次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-03-26T12:24:54+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-03-26T12:34:36+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:42 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/8cb7ec0b2cd1ea34aee14310e948164c280a1269ac70bedcfc5b9943c8bb92c4fe35119236caa9935ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
賴瑞隆 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:24:54 - 12:34:36 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-03-26T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第5次全體委員會議（事由：邀請農業部部長列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。【3月26日及27日二天一次會】） |
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謝謝主席 請陳部長部長這一次的總預算的審查 農業部被刪跟凍也相當的多刪的總數是多少 |
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農業部的部分總共刪的是20.14億那被凍結的部分呢30億左右30.94吧凍的部分呢就是30億左右這兩應該也是創下這幾年的新高嘛對不對對 |
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我想這個那這個對整個未來的農業部的運作會不會產生重大的影響我想一定是有影響的喔特別是在山檢的部分喔因為他刪了很多特定的科目那剛才有特別提到就是說國內的採旅費其實我們農業部非常多的要去現勘的不管是天然災害或者是山區這個大概一定都會影響啦那我今天特別注意到包括我們的一些 |
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這個將來要天然災損的部分也會受到影響是這樣嗎是這個是主要是在特別收入基金的部分嗎對因為過往我想委員都很支持我們的很多基金的預算但是基金預算一旦被刪減以後在預算法規定就不能就沒有了 |
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沒有以後超支的部分就不能動用第二億倍金可是天然災害有它的不確定性以去年來講我們就超過了40億那行政院所以去年三個颱風農損40億所以去年花了多少農損70幾億70幾億所以花了40億然後增加就是行政院撥補特別給我們的40億那其中有一部分行政院二倍金給我們40億有一部分是二倍金那我們自己的基金花了多少 |
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我們今年的基金是611億然後我們天然災害編列的是27 28今年到39億所以這個3減掉了9000萬其實會影響到未來我們跟中央爭取到二倍金的一個對還有因為產交調節也會有影響因為產交調節我們進行也會因為 |
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天氣的不順的時候資金才要調節的時候經費不夠那也不能申請動用二倍金那如果今年像去年一樣一樣遇到了這樣三個颱風遇到了可能70億的一個災損的話那我們在協助農民跟整個救助上會不會產生影響 |
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一定會有影響但是以農業部的立場我們一定想辦法去協助那必要的時候可能就要用借的方式來處理跟銀行借嗎沒有我們可能可能就還是要抱怨啊用跟我們的農債基金來借錢跟農債基金來借錢對就原來本來這些可以但是這不是常態齁這個就是說因為很多委員不知道說他刪的好像只有九千萬意思而已但是相對他影響的是後面第二預備金的動資 |
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所以這個部長好不好把這個再講得更清楚一點為什麼刪掉了九千萬影響到第二預備金的動資我想我們的特別收入基金包括農發農損農還有天然災害基金本身我們都是利用公務去撥補以後 |
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那公務撥補如果說在撥補的這個項目裡面有被刪減的時候那只要你刪減那你依照預算法就不能動資第二預備金可是很可就是說我們的基金每一年都超支大概30億到50億所以等同說這個項目被刪減了所以未來無法申請行政院的第二預備金的動用行政院第二預備金是我們主要當我們超支的時候可以請行政院支援 |
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那現在就不行了去年是動用了多少去年光災損的部分就40億了40億的行政院地位備金所以今年度如果發生這樣狀況因為被刪減而無法動用這40億的地位備金對 就不能向行政院申請所以這40億的地位備金就不能跟行政院申請 |
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對 我們變成說要想辦法由行政院看有沒有其他的經委可以來支持所以這樣的刪減其實對於農民造成很大的一個影響是非常大的影響這幾年特別是氣候異常的狀況所以永遠不知道會是什麼狀況去年連來三個大颱風的影響所以造成這麼多農損那今年這樣刪減導致於40億的第二倍機無法動用這對農業跟對農民其實是很大的一個風險 |
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對 一個很重要的就是去年三個颱風 今年各位委員可以 我跟委員報告今年從年初到現在已經二十幾個品項公告為天然災害最主要是低溫 低溫還有一些比較低的溫度所以其實氣候變遷已經造成這種極端天道造成農業的損失越來越頻繁部長有沒有什麼樣的補救措施可以來做的 |
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我想我們如果說必須要超支的時候我們還是會向行政院爭取他除了第二預備金還有沒有其他的經費可以來協助的那如果不能協助的時候我想我們還是會申請去向農債基金來借錢 |
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那另外我們這幾年的防疫也做得不錯啦不管是口蹄疫 出瘟等等我們都做了很多很不錯的結果但是我也看到我們的這個防疫的預算也被刪減包括被刪減被凍結這個會不會產生影響非常大的影響其實我們 |
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做非洲豬瘟是亞洲就是只有日本和我國是還是維持非洲豬瘟的非疫區那非疫區的一個宣導除了在邊境的宣導是非常重要的那這些東西都需要一些經費來支持那整個那個豬瘟現在我們拔針了嘛但是我們還是要更謹慎的去處理持續的去做宣導 |
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所以要不斷宣導 包括在這個入戶禁的部分那些的經費也是這邊的經費嘛我們是希望說像這類的媒體文宣是其實我們的宣導算做得相當因為進來之後一直不斷的提醒你不要帶一些相關的豬肉製品啊不要什麼甚至有很多的其實也減少被開罰同時間也減少入闖的機會所以這個很重要就這些經費被這樣的刪除凍結了之後會導致未來執行商會不會遇到問題 |
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對 所以我也希望委員能夠了解其實農業部的這些媒宣的部分其實都是在針對我們的相關的這些政策還有必須要我們的利害關係人老百姓知道的這些訊息的傳遞啦那這個傳遞是非常重要的我覺得就為了一個雞蛋用這種報復性的煽動我認為很不合理 |
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雞蛋是一個政策性的因素嘛就當時的時候缺蛋的時候大家是怎麼在罵的罵沒有蛋連個蛋都沒得吃就趕快努力從國外禁蛋進來以後然後又開始罵啊為什麼禁蛋進來啊那禁蛋進來就有能力禁蛋呢我們當然就努力的努力讓他能夠進來嘛那如果任何的違法或輸這個都可以調查嘛但是用這樣的方式來惡意的去把這些的經費全部給凍結跟刪除我認為這個其實對對農民對國家都是個傷害部長應該同意這樣的看法吧 |
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是 我想我們在經濟委員會所有的委員因為對農業夠了解所以我們在經濟委員的委員經費都沒什麼刪那很可惜的就是在黨團的部分那些對農業不夠了解的人這又是另外一個問題在經濟委員會內大家理性討論之後都認為可以的到了朝野協商的時候完全不理解用政治因素直接把你砍掉那經濟委員會在審什麼預算那根本就不用審了嘛到朝野審上去的非理性非專業的人員全部照政治判斷來刪那這樣子經濟委員會幹嘛 |
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幹嘛開就直接送出去就好了國外旅費我們並不是國外旅費就是出差去玩的其實有非常多的國內旅費國外旅費其實都是針對農產品的行銷還有對於天然災害看災有實際需求這幾年能夠不斷的往外行銷出去也是靠這些經費嘛但如果不該花的我們都已經努力在要求刪減了嘛但是你不能夠不分青紅皂白的這樣亂山亂棟整體要求你就是直接 |
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整體的棟 整體的山那對於有需要的這些部分一方面又要馬兒好又要馬兒不吃草不喝水那是怎麼活你要農業推廣要做得好又要照顧農民又要整個行銷什麼都要做那你又不給他經費又要把他砍光光又要把他棟結掉那你要怎麼做 |
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有的動機還要求到大院來報告那還不是在委員會的報告大院的報告有可能拖到下半年那情同是被刪除掉那要怎麼做所以我認為這些的都是亂象啦我認為這個都應該我還是希望農業部還是要持續的不斷對外發聲讓大家知道這些惡劣的狀況才能夠遏止將來這樣的事情不斷的發生好不好我覺得農民跟農業是大家的不應該分任何的黨派應該要公平來思考 |
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這樣惡劣的做法如果未來持續發生的話我覺得對台灣的農民是非常不利的最後一個請教一下前鎮漁港的招商進度目前狀況怎麼樣 |
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我是不是可以請那個漁業署署長說明一下包委員我們那一個多工農運銷中心那之前有經過三次的這一個標注作業那當時因為還在興建中所以廠商沒有辦法預期他未來可以做什麼那目前接近完工了我們現在改走促餐去年底我們也辦了一次你年限拉到多長 |
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年限現在基本上會是20年20年那我們現在基本上因為跟委員報告那一個運銷中心的量體非常大啦他地坪大概就2萬坪所以未來的這一個招商條件裡面我們會盡量減少這些廠商該有的負擔那怎麼樣來增加誘因部長這個請跟署長協助好不好 |
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一定要增加更多願意順利的找到好的廠商來這個我多次的強調一定要找到好的廠商找到好的廠商這件事情就會很順利成功如果找到不好的廠商不夠強的廠商的話那他就會非常的辛苦那我希望這件事情大家那麼努力部長一定要盯緊這整個進度好不好我找時間再跟部長詳談謝謝 |