| IVOD_ID |
159630 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/159630 |
| 日期 |
2025-03-26 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-19-5 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第5次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
5 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第5次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-03-26T11:41:06+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-03-26T11:49:17+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:11 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
gazette |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/8cb7ec0b2cd1ea34f4eff6795d9e37aa280a1269ac70bedc320df3df7f6ba36de766b101dd82558b5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
邱志偉 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:41:06 - 11:49:17 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-03-26T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第5次全體委員會議（事由：邀請農業部部長列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。【3月26日及27日二天一次會】） |
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謝謝主席 我請農業部陳部長另外輔導師陳市長 訓務師李市長漁業署王署長還有農水署李署長來請部長和署長幾個問題請教這個採訪法通過 |
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然後這個裝送總運算啊在經過立法院這個非理性的這個煽動之後當然會影響到你們業務的推動啊你們這本報告裡面啊業務報告裡面財化法影響的然後這個這個裝送總運算不當煽動所影響的影響哪些業務推動最為劇烈最為嚴重 |
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我先問一下啦漁業署黃市長我們現在財化法影響到大概最大一塊就是我們補助地方政府這些漁業建設啦或是養殖生產區的一個建設的部分因為到時候這裡如果切下去可能就我們的部分漁業署的部分可能會達到將近那我們怎麼去照顧農漁民呢 |
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農業部所有預算都是照顧農民農民都集中在這個中南部我不曉得這個在野黨中南部的立委是怎麼看到這種事情還有良心嗎口口聲聲在照顧農民跟漁民有大幅度非理性的煽動而且委員會我主持的農委會的農業部預算我們是跨黨派支持 |
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幾乎在院會的時候協商被兩三個惡人啊不分青紅皂白用情緒性非理性的來糟蹋農民來糟蹋漁民非常惡劣你說影響幾億跟委員報告大概將近會十億十億十億要用來照顧漁民的想到這個我這個血壓就升高 |
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來 農水署的部分 請問一下那個李署長農水署對地方上的這個農村建設非常重要不盪山洞還有這個採訪法修正之後 中央的補助的權限降低了好 影響多少金額 |
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呃 報告委員我是農村水保署不是農村水保署這一樣 農村保守不是三個字啦三個字才是農村水保署 五個字是我們農村水保署 來是 謝謝委員關心因為這次的三項講重點 講重點因為我要精準諮詢 是是我們的治山防災目前是大概是通過43億但是問題是影響幾億嘛影響喔 |
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總共解鎖2.7億2.7億要做農村水土保食對不對我要說明一下2.7億是刪除以我們現在目前如果說這種錢他刪了下去這種事要保護農民生產的安全這種錢刪了下去 |
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如果現在照這個財務法移出去的部分各部位平均分攤的時候各部位如果平均分攤的話 那個就是240億 總共大概240億你說整個農業部預算對 會大概240億到250億被移出去啦如果說照部位就是原本用在農營民身上 用在農業身上就少240億對不對 對這種國會也要不要罷掉 |
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大罷免大成功才能對得起這個農民還有剛剛是農村發展與水土保守署沒有錯另外我問一下那個徐牧師這個市長這個 |
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在紫關區的這個批發市場還有一個設備的這個補助紫關區這個非常重要是一個重要的一個這個家庭的批發市場這部分我希望能夠支持這經費也不多他們自籌五成希望中午那會不會受到這次影響會會你看看看 |
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政府要做事 要照顧農民 要扶國立民這個可惡的在野黨三農民的預算 三餘民的預算這些是擁有農民資產就是說受到影響那能不能補助我跟委員報告齁 在可能的情況之下我們一定會盡量去維持我們對地方 特別是農業的協助我唯一能夠解決這個問題就是大罷免 大成果 |
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國會才能恢復常態 恢復理性 恢復這個國會該有的素質跟水準才能繼續福國利民好 另外這個湖內區農會 湖內區農會是農撫師陳市長 那個我們有開過門嘛這部分有沒有受到影響 |
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因為這個福島農會的那個推廣教育設施的改善的話這一部分是在編在基金裡面所以沒有影響目前是沒有受影響這裡就比較安心不過我要跟委員說明我們基金每年由公務預算撥補大概371億370億左右由公務預算撥補所以它是會間接的還是會有影響不過我想我們還是會在可能的範圍之內來盡量來協助 |
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這個部長你不要再講你越講我心都碎了這個沒有辦法去體訓農民是一個沒有辦法去照顧農民這些是惡質政客這是沒有良心的政客沒有良心的政黨老天有眼啊會懲罰他們來台電預算被砍 |
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電費可能會調漲那農漁用的電調漲預算能不能追加我有一個報告就是我們對於農漁民本身用電的優惠跟補貼的政策不會變那去年上漲了以後我們今年度變了24.6億26億但是今年電價如果有調整的時候我想我們還是維持我們的政策但是我們會 |
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更積極的向行政院去做爭取相關的一個預算會不會影響目前的對農業用電的補助因為這個用電本身24.26億是編列上一波漲價的一個補助這一次在漲價的話我們專家的經費就沒有了大概20幾億 |
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還要增加20幾億如果調整的幅度跟上次是一樣的話就是24.26億那我們現在還不知道電費是怎樣的調整不過不管怎麼樣我想我們都還會努力要一定要用額外的經費啦因為在我們現在的預算裡面是沒辦法挪用的所以三萬七千戶的農業用戶都會受到影響我希望能夠舉例去證據因為我時間到了遵守時間是一個 |
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謝謝邱委員把時間掌握得非常的精準那30秒是我送給你的 |
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邱委員志偉：（11時41分）謝謝主席，我請農業部陳部長，另外是輔導司陳司長、畜牧司李司長、漁業署王署長，還有農水署李署長。 |
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主席：請部長、司長和署長。 |
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邱委員志偉：本席有幾個問題請教，財劃法修正通過，加上中央政府總預算經過立法院非理性的刪、凍之後，當然會影響到你們的業務推動。在你們今天這本業務報告裡面，財劃法和中央政府總預算不當刪、凍對哪些業務推動的影響最為嚴重？我先問一下漁業署王署長。 |
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王署長茂城：委員好。現在財劃法影響到的最大一塊大概就是我們補助地方政府的漁業建設或是養殖生產區建設的部分，因為到時候…… |
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邱委員志偉：影響到的經費有多少錢？ |
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王署長茂城：這裡如果切下去，我們漁業署的部分可能會達到將近…… |
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邱委員志偉：那我們怎麼去照顧農、漁民呢？農業部所有預算都是照顧農、漁民，農、漁民都集中在中南部，我不曉得在野黨中南部的立委是怎麼看待這個事情，他們還有良心嗎？口口聲聲說要照顧農民跟漁民，卻大幅度、非理性地刪、凍預算！在委員會我主持的會議當中，農業部預算我們是跨黨派地支持，結果在院會的時候，被兩、三個惡人不分青紅皂白用情緒性、非理性的方式來糟蹋農民、糟蹋漁民，非常惡劣！你說影響幾億？ |
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王署長茂城：跟委員報告，大概會將近10億。 |
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邱委員志偉：10億？ |
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王署長茂城：嗯！ |
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邱委員志偉：10億是要用來照顧漁民的耶！ |
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想到這個，我的血壓就升高。 |
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接下來是農水署的部分，請問李署長，農水署對地方上的農村建設非常重要，總預算不當刪、凍還有財劃法修正之後，中央補助的權限降低了，影響多少金額？ |
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李署長鎮洋：報告委員，我是農村水保署，不是農水署。 |
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邱委員志偉：一樣！簡稱啦！你們是農村發展及…… |
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李署長鎮洋：我們是5個字，不是3個字，3個字的才是農水署，5個字的是我們。 |
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邱委員志偉：好，農村水保署，請說明。 |
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李署長鎮洋：謝謝委員關心，因為這次的…… |
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邱委員志偉：講重點！講重點！因為我要精準質詢。 |
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李署長鎮洋：是。我們治山防災目前大概是通過43億，但問題是…… |
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邱委員志偉：影響幾億嘛！ |
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李署長鎮洋：影響哦？總共減少2.72億。 |
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邱委員志偉：2.72億你要做農村水土保持，對不對？ |
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陳部長駿季：我要說明一下，那個2.72億是刪除喔！以我們目前如果說…… |
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邱委員志偉：這種錢他刪得下去！這種是要保護農民生產的安全，這種錢刪得下去！ |
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陳部長駿季：如果現在照這個…… |
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邱委員志偉：真的是無血無淚！ |
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陳部長駿季：如果照現在這個財劃法移出去的話，各部會平均分攤的時候…… |
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邱委員志偉：這種就要把他罷掉，你知道嗎？ |
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陳部長駿季：那個就是240億、總共大概240億。 |
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邱委員志偉：你說整個農業部的預算？ |
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陳部長駿季：對，大概會有240億到250億被移出去。如果照部會…… |
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邱委員志偉：就是原本要用在農、漁民身上，結果就少了240億，對不對？ |
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陳部長駿季：對。 |
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邱委員志偉：這種國會議員要不要罷掉？罷！大罷免、大成宮，才能對得起農民！ |
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剛剛是農村發展及水土保持署，沒有錯吧？ |
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李署長鎮洋：對！ |
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邱委員志偉：接下來我要問一下畜牧司。司長，在梓官區批發市場有一個設備的補助，梓官區非常重要，那是一個重要的家禽批發市場，這個部分我希望能夠支持，經費也不多，他們自籌五成，會不會受到這次的影響？ |
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李司長宜謙：會，一定會。 |
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邱委員志偉：你看！你看看！政府要做事、要照顧農民、要福國利民，這個可惡的在野黨竟然刪農民的預算、刪漁民的預算！這些是用在農民身上的，結果你說會受到影響，那能不能補助？ |
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陳部長駿季：我跟委員報告，在可能的情況之下，我們一定會儘量去維持我們對地方，特別是農業的補助。 |
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邱委員志偉：唯一能夠解決這個問題的方法就是大罷免、大成宮啦！這樣國會才能恢復常態、恢復理性、恢復國會該有素質跟水準，才能繼續福國利民啦！ |
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好，另外是湖內區農會的事情，請問農輔司陳司長，我們開過會嘛！ |
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陳司長俊言：是。 |
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邱委員志偉：這部分有沒有受到影響？ |
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陳司長俊言：輔導農會教育設施改善的部分是編在基金裡面…… |
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邱委員志偉：對啦，所以沒有影響嘛！ |
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陳司長俊言：目前是沒有受影響。 |
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邱委員志偉：這就比較讓人安心。 |
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陳部長駿季：不過我要跟委員說明，我們基金每年由公務預算撥補大概370億左右…… |
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邱委員志偉：有沒有受到影響？ |
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陳部長駿季：由公務預算撥補啦！所以它還是會間接受到影響，不過我想我們還是會在可能的範圍之內儘量來協助。 |
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邱委員志偉：部長，你不要再講了，你越講，我心都碎了！沒有辦法體恤農民、照顧農民的是惡質政客，是沒有良心的政客、沒有良心的政黨！老天有眼，「天公伯」會懲罰他們！ |
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另外，補貼台電的預算被砍，電費可能會調漲，農、漁用電調漲的預算能不能追加？ |
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陳部長駿季：我跟委員報告，我們對農、漁民本身用電的優惠跟補貼政策不會變，去年電價上漲以後，我們今年度編了24.26億，今年電價如果調整的話，我想我們還是會維持我們的政策，但是我們會更積極地向行政院爭取相關的預算。 |
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邱委員志偉：會不會影響目前對農、漁用電的補助？ |
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陳部長駿季：因為這個用電本身24.26億的編列是上一波漲價的補助…… |
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邱委員志偉：對，沒有錯。 |
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陳部長駿季：這一次再漲價的話，我們的經費就沒有了。 |
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邱委員志偉：要增加多少？ |
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陳部長駿季：大概二十幾億啦！ |
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邱委員志偉：還要增加二十幾億？ |
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陳部長駿季：沒有。如果調整幅度跟上次一樣的話，就是24.26億啦！ |
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邱委員志偉：對。 |
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陳部長駿季：我們現在還不知道電費要做怎樣的調整，不過不管怎麼樣，我們都會努力去爭取。一定要用額外的經費啦，因為在我們現在的預算裡面是沒有辦法挪用的。 |
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邱委員志偉：所以3萬7,000戶的農業用戶都會受到影響？我希望你們積極去爭取。 |
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陳部長駿季：農、漁的部分都需要。 |
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邱委員志偉：我的時間到了，遵守時間是一個國會議員該有的素質。謝謝主席讓我多講了30秒。 |
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主席：謝謝邱委員把時間掌握得非常精準。那30秒是我送給你的。 |
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下一位請許宇甄許委員。 |
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368 |
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委員會-11-3-19-5 |
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蔡易餘 |
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林岱樺 |
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邱議瑩 |
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張嘉郡 |
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楊瓊瓔 |
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張啓楷 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw |
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謝衣鳯 |
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呂玉玲 |
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陳超明 |
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翁曉玲 |
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邱志偉 |
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許宇甄 |
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鍾佳濱 |
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郭國文 |
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陳亭妃 |
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賴瑞隆 |
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鄭正鈐 |
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李坤城 |
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黃捷 |
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徐欣瑩 |
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張雅琳 |
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陳冠廷 |
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王美惠 |
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林德福 |
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2025-03-26 |
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1143201 |
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立法院第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第5次全體委員會議紀錄 |
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邀請農業部部長列席報告業務概況，並備質詢 |
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1143201_00005 |