IVOD_ID |
159606 |
IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/159606 |
日期 |
2025-03-26 |
會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-19-5 |
會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第5次全體委員會議 |
會議資料.屆 |
11 |
會議資料.會期 |
3 |
會議資料.會次 |
5 |
會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
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19 |
會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第5次全體委員會議 |
影片種類 |
Clip |
開始時間 |
2025-03-26T09:45:57+08:00 |
結束時間 |
2025-03-26T09:57:07+08:00 |
影片長度 |
00:11:10 |
支援功能[0] |
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video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/8cb7ec0b2cd1ea34d19d5cdb0a43781d280a1269ac70bedcc80eeefacbca121be389c4a505309a2e5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
委員名稱 |
邱議瑩 |
委員發言時間 |
09:45:57 - 09:57:07 |
會議時間 |
2025-03-26T09:00:00+08:00 |
會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第5次全體委員會議(事由:邀請農業部部長列席報告業務概況,並備質詢。【3月26日及27日二天一次會】) |
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謝謝主席 我請一下陳部長好 請部長 |
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部長好部長我想這個每一次農業部都會把你們未來的工作跟過去所推動的業務都報導的非常詳細但最近有一個新聞我想還是要趁這個機會是不是讓部長來說明一下現在地方各地農會各地區的農民都非常緊張因為有國民黨的委員說配合租地種電就會喪失農保資格他說政府對於老農養套殺 |
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那到底這件事情是不是真的同時間我們看到去年在審查預算提案的時候國民黨的馬文君委員說 |
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農業部對種電的農民沒有取消他的農保資格但是對於其他有盈利事業登記證的農民是把他取消資格很顯然在這件事情上面就有人在造謠了到底農地種電會不會被取消資格這是一件事情 |
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政府有沒有對老農養套殺這是另外一件事情這是第二件事情第三件事情我其實更想知道就是說在我們現在一直不斷的在推動無法耕作的這些老農他如果願意把他的農地釋出不管是去種電或者是租給青農協助青農能夠真正實質從事農業耕作但是因為你們現在配合審計部的這個調查是不是會導致 |
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地主跟租約的這些實耕者關係惡化那這個問題要怎麼解決部長來給您時間回答好 謝謝委員我這邊還是要去強調就是整個的一個榮保的資格其實 |
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要加入農盲都知道,他必須要有一分地,然後要實際從農。那相對的,就像剛才委員所提到的,65歲以上的老農,我們是鼓勵他把農地租給青年農民。所以在這個部分其實我們已經放寬了,他的土地就不需要再擁有0.1分地,所以他就沒有所謂的農保,因為地不夠的問題。 |
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所以65歲以上的農民他租給人家他的農保資格不會喪失嗎即使是租給重電的也不會喪失嗎對 是都不會喪失所以這也是很清楚的一定要一定要澄清我覺得這個農業部也要去做一個澄清對 這個我想我們一定澄清就是65歲以上的老農是完全不會受到影響 |
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這是要特別去澄清的然後第二個部分就是65歲以下的部分就誠如我剛才簡報我講的我們為了配合國家能源政策那你的土地如果租給光電業者的時候你的土地的持份如果土地的擁有不到一分地的時候我們也讓他能夠繼續擁有農保所以後續也不會對這個配合光電政策的也不會受到影響 |
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好 部長我覺得像這些很奇怪農業的東西啊 謠言很快就會散佈然後搞到所有的農民人心惶惶我認為像這個應該農業部要很快速的回擊或者是很快速的反應但是你們現在的快速反應呢會出現一個很大的落差就是你們的預算被砍你們的宣傳預算被砍我現在要跟您談到的是 |
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你的轄下的業務費被砍了你的預算差旅費被砍了宣傳預算也被砍了差旅費被砍很多人覺得差旅費被砍沒什麼差旅費被砍是我很在意啊為什麼因為你們要隨時下鄉啊你們要隨時下鄉不管是勘栽不管是協助農民種植你的農改廠隨時都要去協助農民做農業的技術的改良嘛你差旅費被砍 |
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怎麼樣去幫助農民那你以後叫你這些同仁是怎麼樣走路去還是騎腳踏車去未來怎麼樣去勘栽你現在現在的天氣變化這麼大 |
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屏東的芒果已經只開花不結果慢慢的會往上延伸會到高雄到台南是這些看災要不要看玉荷包今年去年年底的時候花開得很漂亮現在開始發現問題了只開花不結果要不要去看災怎麼去看災這個預算這樣被砍還有您剛剛講到的你的這個錢 |
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業務費被刪了以後你們不能去申請基金的撥補基金就撥補過來他們說基金撥補過來沒問題啊可是你不能申請預備金啊去年的農損總共你申請預備金撥補多少錢去年天然災害的話撥補的將近40億撥補了40億那今年預算這樣被砍的話 |
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你一毛錢都申請不到對 二倍金就不能一相關的預算法是不可以的按照預算法一毛錢都申請不到是那怎麼辦所以我們只能你要怎麼處理我們只能向行政院祈求風調雨順颱風永遠都不會來第一個我要還是要去擲筊 |
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我跟委員報告就是過去委員都知道這件事情所以我們的基金公務撥補基金大概都不會被刪那這次被刪了以後真的是對二倍金影響那二倍金不能的話我們只能再看行政院有沒有其他的方面的一個基金或者是像我覺得行政院能夠救助的方法都救助了然後在經濟委員會裡頭其實我們在經濟委員會裡頭我們是沒有刪這個錢的 |
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每一個委員在現場的委員包括國民黨的委員大家都說來自農業縣大家對農業都是支持是沒有刪這個錢的啊為什麼到了院會到了富坤崎所領導的黨團就會把這個錢刪掉那未來我們要怎麼樣協助農民去處理第三個這個錢的問題還小事啊台灣的農產品被他們說的一文不值啊 |
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部長我給你看一個這個是民國86年的專欄報導當時的農委會說要把台灣的水果走向精品路線所以呢現在我們台灣的農民很認真很努力啊一直希望能夠把台灣的水果打向世界舞台打向國際舞台你看到人家日本細張哈蜜瓜兩顆賣300萬日元 |
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紅葡萄一串賣160萬日元芒果兩顆賣60萬日元這是精品走向這是精品走向但是不是每一顆都是這樣賣啦對不對這個也是台灣希望有一天我們的我們的水果也是能站在日本的精品市場不是嗎是這是我們努力的目標好結果你看一下 |
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我們外銷日本的水果銷量是成長比如說去年跟2016比我們的出口銷量是大幅增加547%可是我們的金額只有成長232% |
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鳳梨外銷日本9年成長了16倍總共成長了1614%但是我們的金額只增加了1469換句話說我們只有拼量沒有拼到價錢 |
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這跟我們當時想要做的其實是相違背嘛部長 你這樣懂我的意思嗎我知道因為天災 因為天氣冷 香蕉長不出來所以香蕉價格貴還竟然被國民黨的王宏威說這是詐騙他說香蕉怎麼可以這麼貴台灣的香蕉怎麼可以這麼貴你知道 岐山的蕉農聽了內心都在淌血啊 |
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不緊張的話就很悲哀啊買這個介紹也不是他要的 市場沒用 你當然介紹就管嘛結果他跟你說 香蕉不能這麼貴還有人說要去引進廉價的香蕉進來到底是誰在破壞台灣的農業啊到底是誰在殺害台灣的農業啊我直接用殺害兩個字 不是損害而已 是殺害啊 |
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不然像現在你要怎麼做我跟委員報告齁就是在我們經濟委員會的委員包括國民黨包括民進黨包括任何政黨 |
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對農業夠了解當你對農業不夠了解才會講這樣子的一個話當我們農民受到天然災害的時候那相關的這些量太少的時候就算他價格比較高也沒辦法滿足他的過往的收入啊是啊所以這個部分我們一定是堅持絕對不會從類似的其他的水果我們也不會從其他的國家去進口來打擊我們自己的農民 |
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所以我是覺得這樣就是說有一些人對農業不了解的還是要多讀點書或者是到鄉下去走一走或者是農業部你們應該利用宣傳的時候讓大家多一點了解農業知識可是很可惜你們的宣傳經費也被砍所以不懂的人還是不懂 |
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那我們希望能夠把台灣的水果推向國際不只是只有量我們希望那個價錢要把它拉高你要讓農民真的能夠透過外銷可以多賺一點錢可以賺得到錢這個是我們一直在努力的目標所以我想 |
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預算被砍未來的這個災損的補助到底從何而來這個我們還需要一直努力啊那我不知道國民黨的委員願不願意協助願不願意去跟他們的副坤崎總召說放過農民一馬 |
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放過農民一馬 幫幫台灣的農業如果他們願意 我們可以在這裡給他拍拍手如果不願意 那他們很顯然就是扼殺台灣農業的幫兇啊我必須要講這麼重的話 部長 |