| IVOD_ID |
159586 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/159586 |
| 日期 |
2025-03-24 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-19-4 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
4 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-03-24T10:35:07+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-03-24T10:45:09+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:02 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/01f072357e67ffc08c1a58045569502971db0abd93ed56f1fcfba9c389d3a535cd6849d3fc6a78aa5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
陳超明 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:35:07 - 10:45:09 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-03-24T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第4次全體委員會議（事由：審查：
一、行政院函請審議「電業法部分條文修正草案」案。
二、本院委員賴士葆等17人擬具「電業法第七十四條條文修正草案」案。
三、本院委員林岱樺等18人擬具「電業法第六條條文修正草案」案。
四、本院委員楊瓊瓔等20人擬具「電業法第六條條文修正草案」案。
五、本院委員邱議瑩等16人擬具「電業法第六條條文修正草案」案。
六、本院委員邱志偉等20人擬具「電業法部分條文修正草案」案。
七、本院委員鄭正鈐等19人擬具「電業法第七十四條條文修正草案」案。） |
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主席好首先有請我們的部長吳英豪部長好 |
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剛剛接到一個消息說媒體在報導經濟部有開會討論電價將要漲6%那部長說沒有但是我們的執政總長剛剛在我們財委會裡面回答說 |
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他們財政部有派人出席但是這個會議並不是部長主持會中說提到平均調漲8%有沒有這樣的事情報告委員我剛才也有在這裡跟大家報告我沒有主持過這樣的會議 |
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我現在是漲了多少?我曉得你沒有去指示,這個我們大概多少?我現在是要問你,你不要規則引東引西的,到底漲價多少?馬上要決定了嘛!我不知道,這個我沒有辦法,這審議委員要不會開會啊? |
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你現在越來越搞錯話我看報紙在寫說民生用電要漲11%企業用電要漲5%現在又有6%又有8%要漲這裡面也要早有階段嘛你搞得人心惶惶啊你這個部長要小心啊我跟你講報告委員 |
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因為以前小小公司現在變成一個大公司 |
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但是你在保證你手下四家國營企業第一個台電現在虧損累累讓你白頭化增加了很多中油也是虧損累累你又不敢講中油被你們壓的聲音都發不出來只有默默吃這個苦頭自來水公司的時候窮窮強強勉勉強強還是在虧損之中郵件基金給撥走 |
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你的台湯是來賣土地、租土地、勉強維生你提出你企業和中心這樣去做啊這個國家在你做財政經濟部長裡面有沒有改修規則呢?你有沒有什麼解決之道?簡單講一下 |
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調整電價 調整我們瓦斯價 調整我們水位 你的辦法我看只有這樣而已啦不一定啦 不一定齁 我有七個垢面啦 可以來協助他們那你趕快提一個報告 不然我現在每天都心不安慰 就要整天說 哎喲 水電要去啦 我要安裝什麼 |
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這齁,這我很怕是這樣啦我也很怕三人成虎,不一樣的事情說到變成這樣你常常不一樣的事情跟我們說到不一樣,害我們有時候要替你辯護都很困難是,謝謝委員,一定要替我辯護啦你剛剛說補錢兩千億,你們的執政黨的立委在回答問題你都微笑 |
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在結黨回答問題裡面的第一件事你說兩千億為什麼要補貼兩千億你說要五十億歷史我教你 我不理你轉角你就五十億歷史來 國庫來補貼不要搞到兩千億啊稍微想一下 頭腦稍微轉一下就會一樣啊這樣事情就改變了是 謝謝委員 |
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好不好 你用這個思維你跟我講嘛為了五十億的歷史 國庫保護才有 大家不會說話啦你拿兩千要出來 你知道嗎 |
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你們現在已經國庫補貼三千億你們的電費漲價大概一千億 四千億還在拿呢啊你現在還要貼兩千億 六千億掉 難怪大家會懷疑啊我們齁 當初在COVID-19的時候 隆重是動漲影響的是六千億喔 應用的是六千億喔 |
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我跟您說,這樣加起來,加那些太多錢,給我的政府應該有應變的技巧,不要說那些理由,替困難解決辦法,好不好?今天我回歸正題,電力修正法, |
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我一直那電業修正法你們來拜託我說不要啦他說是中央的政策一定要分家106年以前那個民進黨執政的時候台電那時候都是賺了大錢後就像你講的要四大分支要分開像我們國安會的留職委說要工程類地好像要做國際的公司一樣 |
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但是啊,天有不錯的風雲,人算不如天算,你們現在起來說,啊,這樣會死的,不敢分家,不敢分割財產,不敢掠奪財產,你現在說要統一的管理,這個政策裡面, |
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我是覺得有諸多的問題存在其實如果賺錢 因為我很胖 準備要去賺錢現在了解了 大家心裡想要國家來負擔也有擔當的政府 不要這樣子做那你要怎麼解決這個問題 |
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報告委員我們現在就是要修改就是說不再這個把它分割維持原來的綜合電業的這樣的一個方式您要民主該黨的所長 |
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我每天都要喝酒,有什麼人不喝?他那個時候國際物價變動都要漲價,被罵得要死,會因為失掉掙錢,你們都不可以做,不可以去,現在要逼到台電來,人工啊,苦不堪言,沒有啦。 |
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蔡兆偉的時候在做的話是10分鐘你不要6分鐘就站起來了我們在執行的時候你們就怕我們講多話我愛死你了邱志偉你什麼時候好朋友 |
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第一,您高的薪酬牌,尤其吃字母的人跟我很要法,他說我們這個在野黨是真的挺何凡,我們是支持核能,幾個要件要出來,但是我要提一個問題給你看,核電最多的國家化國,美國也有,日本也有, |
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中國大陸也有啊你說何時人的安全站是要做到哪裡去做你們的薪資百合不能打破啦你告訴我問題絕對有辦法考慮去解決的怎麼去挖怎麼找一個卑鄙的地方補資給他們有什麼不習慣都是在找理由找藉口因為你反核一失啊這個薪資百合不容易啊掙錢不薄 |
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你们讲的呼听口其实里面最重要的问题台湾的合同人才停了合同都被韩国抓走韩国抓走他现在已经建立他自己台湾的合同产业的人才都流失了 |
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508.436 |
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很嚴重那剛剛我們的召委站起來骯髒的食物狗台灣在裡面要特別特別小心尤其中小企業傳統產業會影響更大不管你到越南到哪個地方都會影響到保證要提早應用是您要做一個報告給我們好好不好這一點第一點 |
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512.849 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].end |
541.272 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].text |
再來那時候張旭凱委員有問到中油跟阿拉斯加的合作你一直在講異相思異相思表示你有意願叫做異相思是哎呦保證你敢跟美國抗衡嘛450億我知道可能幾個國去參加但是最後不要去買到高的天然氣不要去投資我們只有這五這六我們低的又是高的價格 |
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541.952 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].end |
567.452 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].text |
美國國債36兆,藝人的利息1兆美金,不給你騙贏了,給你抬抬了,它沒辦法解決問題,我不是反對,但是不要買到高樓,再給中油通家困擾,給台電通家困擾,臨北的介紹,變成澳洲,變成沙地那些,可以收下來,不能這樣,不能猶豫啦,你猶豫啦, |
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570.954 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].end |
598.385 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].text |
報告委員 我們從阿拉斯加買油是10天就可以到台灣是運送最短的一個距離第二個 也最安全 我們走的是太平洋這條線運送短喔 澳洲幾天 中東幾天我們賣的大陸最笨啦 你們不叫我們的國用事業車代載的高洋 代載的高洋好不好是謝謝委員知道 |
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599.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].end |
599.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].text |
公說來講 |