| IVOD_ID |
159585 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/159585 |
| 日期 |
2025-03-24 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-19-4 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
4 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-03-24T10:26:16+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-03-24T10:35:03+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:47 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/01f072357e67ffc0d73c4e425847e6d471db0abd93ed56f1fcfba9c389d3a535a44ad80bc68501425ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
邱志偉 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:26:16 - 10:35:03 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-03-24T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第4次全體委員會議（事由：審查：
一、行政院函請審議「電業法部分條文修正草案」案。
二、本院委員賴士葆等17人擬具「電業法第七十四條條文修正草案」案。
三、本院委員林岱樺等18人擬具「電業法第六條條文修正草案」案。
四、本院委員楊瓊瓔等20人擬具「電業法第六條條文修正草案」案。
五、本院委員邱議瑩等16人擬具「電業法第六條條文修正草案」案。
六、本院委員邱志偉等20人擬具「電業法部分條文修正草案」案。
七、本院委員鄭正鈐等19人擬具「電業法第七十四條條文修正草案」案。） |
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請質詢謝主席是不是請經濟部郭部長請郭部長能源署李軍理代理署長好那請代理署長部長 |
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今天排定審查定義法相關修正條文我想我上回期我就提出這版本版本大概跟你運版是差不多大概有11個條文裡面大概內容大致相同那我們覺得這個幾個重點都很重要我都全力支持我們希望說今天看看今天的委員會能不能就 |
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做成決議來送出委員會 我想大概跨黨派都可以支持第一個問題請教一下部長 如果台電的撥補如果能夠順利完成 如果債務黨沒有阻擋台電的撥補一千億的部分那是不是就不會有電價調漲 |
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報告委員如果依照您剛才所說明的這個部分我們將會把具體的這個內容交給這個電價審議委員會有因就有果不是有因就有果嘛如果這個果是因為這個一千億撥補沒有到位產生必須要調漲電價這個為什麼不能說呢這個邏輯這一半都可以連結啊是 |
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因為我們這個撥補是來改善我們的這個財務的情況財務結構一改善它就沒有急迫性跟必要性馬上要調整電價嘛 對不對 |
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所以這部分是邏輯很清楚我這個調整電價的部分完全由這個電價審議委員會他們來做判斷不能推給電價審議委員會您是決策者那決策當然會影響到整個委員會的這個相關判斷所以這一千億能夠到位那我想我認為啦就不會有今天調長的倡議或者是討論了因為財務結構 |
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已經基本上改善了這個是一個非常重要的變數啦你又不讓他撥補然後又反對這個電價調漲然後又覺得這個是你的核能政策是你的能源政策這個錯誤造成的你能源政策說你再生能源這個還沒有到位然後又提到這個廢核 |
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這個核能啊 我們有幾個原則 核安 核廢處理 社會共識 對不對 是我們有國民黨那麼多的執政縣市的首長 那麼多的這個立法委員還有原民的立委 他們說要請核 說你這個因為你廢核所以才會造成這個電力失衡 電力供應不足目前為止有沒有哪個縣市首長 或者哪一個立委 區域立委 |
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跟您提出他希望把這個核電廠核電設施設在他的選區核廢料處理廠這個報告委員這個就像人都一樣大家都想上天堂但是沒有人想死沒有 |
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不見得要上天堂啦 活得心安理得就好啦大家都想用電 但是都不想核廢料在你家附近那要講道理嘛我們變成一個這個穩定國家的力量應該是在立法院才對因為要做服國立民的事情然後結果服國立民沒有做好如果你錯過政策 你錯過的決策 |
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會變成禍國殃民對 報告委員您講得非常正確我們一定要解決核廢料可以處理我想我們不排除用各種的發電的方式但是核廢料沒有辦法處理活著不是要去上天堂 |
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但你不要做到你要下地獄不是我的意思是說大家都想要上天堂但是沒有人想死啦你要做到心安理得你要讓人覺得所有的事情都擺出來讓他去做判斷所以你要不能漲然後又說你核能政策的問題沒有所有的核一核二核三這相關的廚藝都按照法律相關的規定嘛對不對是我們一定依法行事的 |
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所以謝謝委員他說台電的虧損是因為核能然後因為再生能源發電的成本太高然後核能處理提早我當然知道不是嘛原料漲價的問題你要講清楚你要去說明白要爭取大家的理解所以我覺得大家沒有深度去思考能源政策的嚴肅性是的 |
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然後一些媒體斷章取義把所有的能源政策說是核能的問題我深深不以為然所以到底在野黨是真的挺核還是假挺核在野黨真的挺核還是假挺核我沒有辦法判斷我覺得是假挺核所以就是一個政治操作的議題 |
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非核交易不是任何一個政黨的目標非核交易是法律規定的是法律規定對不對是再一個小問題也不是小問題啦簡單的問題也不是簡單的問題啦重要的問題封測白名單的效應是長這個是您怎麼判斷封測白名單封測 |
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美國啊對這個有封設白名單我們有幾個廠商在白名單裡面 |
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我想我們第一個會先了解這個部分到底美國他們在指的是哪一些範圍管制範圍對這個安全的部分我們一定會全力去防止但會轉單效應啊然後如果這樣子激起中國加速對封測技術的發展這不見得對我們他們沒有能力是不是他們沒有能力啊 |
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貿易員這個部分我是專業的我非常的專業所以才問您因為你專業所以美國封測白名單的效應對我們是短多也是長多對不對是的當然這樣很好啦我相關的機會也扮演有風險把風險降到最低把機會升到最高這是我們政府該做的事是謝謝委員所以封測這個白名單基本上是短多也是長多是最後30秒鐘 |
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這個新達這個你知道新達海基啊新達海基那他目前要轉型轉型他不是要做製造他是要做這個相關的顧問您知道新達轉型的目前草案跟計畫要經過董事會的同意經過中綱嘛新達海基就在那邊我從他這個高樓起然後從他這個訂單沒有從他變成目前沒有人在那邊這個我每天都在看 |
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我覺得有點可惜當然 當初要實行國產化好 你現在虧損了這個六七十億你走不下去 要轉型 |
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轉型如果也要轉型變成說對未來的雲有幫助我贊成但你如果成就一個變成一個顧問公司一個諮詢的功能那我就大可不必你可以把興達海基這個基地連加起來大概四五十公頃你可以批建成產業園區產業園區呢就像我爭取的北高雄產業園區包括我爭取的陸竹產業園區也已經開始在建廠已經在規劃 |
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那最北邊的茄澱我們不能不照顧這個茄澱產業所以茄澱產業把它闢建成經濟部主管的產業園區啟動這個計畫之後我們把一些海洋產業把它納進來部長你同意嗎好的我們來 複利購可能要經過跟中鋼講一下是請中鋼也支持 |
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把這個它可以開發整個這個工業區 產業園區然後也可以招商進來變成一個生產基地我們來評估那評估是不是一個月之內把這個可行性把它評估出來撒各位啦撒各位好不好沒有問題喔三個月之內針對新南海基目前的基地啊拔劈建成進步主管的產業園區三個月提出規劃報告好謝謝 |