| IVOD_ID |
159581 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/159581 |
| 日期 |
2025-03-24 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-15-5 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期內政委員會第5次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
5 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期內政委員會第5次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-03-24T09:58:25+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-03-24T10:06:27+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:02 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/01f072357e67ffc01dc0de7b5929e8048313c4daf57d80adfcfba9c389d3a5350a24d4c92cf601975ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
張宏陸 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:58:25 - 10:06:27 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-03-24T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期內政委員會第5次全體委員會議（事由：邀請內政部部長、行政院消費者保護處處長、財政部就「租賃住宅市場透明化之現況及展望」進行專題報告，並備質詢。） |
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請部長部長有請委員好部長就剛剛像租金補貼的部分我們今年會不會再有新的租金補貼的核准 |
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有 我們現在本來就是開放申請那剛剛我有跟委員報告到目前為止呢 申請的戶數是75萬.8戶那核定的部分是64.2萬戶當中那已經有駁回的是2萬3千多戶 |
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所以剛剛部長你說的可能到11月就會用慶但那是以現在核准的案件數那如果再多增加核准的案件數是不是更早就用完了報告委員我們原來在預估年度計畫的時候就是以75萬戶為主 |
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所以現在已經核定就是75萬戶那現在的核定件數是64.2萬戶那你現在是64.2嘛如果是你剛剛說到11月底是75萬戶的數量算嗎對已經核定的去算嗎是的OKOK好那另外今天我們講這個租賃住宅市場透明化 |
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那部長其實現在大家在講這個透明化可能最大的就是租金有沒有透明化是的是不是大概就是這個問題而已大致上是這樣子但是我們是我們對外的講的部分就是如果公部門可以掌握的我們一定可以對外公布但是如果不是公部門而是私人的尤其是這個出租人本身他不願意公布的話我們在查核上會有困難 |
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就是它公布的這個金額到底是對還是不對沒有人敢去確定那如果我們就是放在我們自己的公布門裡面把它公布出去的話反而會影響到租屋市場會變成有點混亂所以我們才會說要兩方面一定要齊頭並進的讓它可以穩健式的朝著租賃市場的租金透明化方面發展 |
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沒有錯啦因為私人的部分啦有沒有包含水電或是有沒有包含裝潢我覺得這個都差很多那有的有沒有包含管理費對不對或甚至他有沒有車位這個都有不一樣的這個價格啦所以你要去 |
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實質上掌握到它是不是合理是不是以目前我們所有政府相關機關也沒有辦法做到百分之百報告委員那個我們跟地方政府其實地方政府他們也是非常同意要朝著這個資訊透明化發展但是確實就像您所說的真的非常困難因為數據如果失真的話就影響到整個租賃市場上面的一個健全發展這個是我們比較擔心的部分 |
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對那回過頭來我們所有的公部門的比如住住中心的或什麼的我們這個的現在有沒有做到百分之百的透明化的應該有住住中心有我是不是請我們處長來跟您回應一下他在做統計上面百分之百的透明化 |
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我們目前已經有蒐集租金補貼、社會住宅等相關公佈門的這些租賃案件的契約全部都已經把它對 都有對 我只要 就問只要是公佈門的 已經百分之百透明了然後有公佈了我就是問這一個 沒錯嘛好 妳請 妳先請坐 |
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所以部長其實啊如果沒有今天這樣子啊很多人啊也都還不知道公部門已經百分之百公開透明給大家查詢了 |
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這一點很多人可能還不知道是對不對可能我們對外宣導不足啦所以我們再繼續來宣導不是不是不是對外宣導不足的問題我覺得我們在講每次講說我們做了多少做了多少了你做了很多但是你公部門已經百分之百了你這一點可能比例多少不知道我現在不知道但這一點要先讓大家知道 |
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我覺得至少公部門它是已經透明化了公部門的地方因為我為什麼要這樣特別問其實公部門就沒有我剛剛說的那些差異性那麼多你這一棟你完全沒有裝潢的多少或是你這一棟是包含裝潢多少公部門沒有那些差異性對不對甚至差異性非常小是不是這樣 |
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是 如果按照委員這樣子的說法我是覺得說在公部門能夠掌握到的資訊已經是十價登錄了百分之百十價登錄但是私人部門的話我們能夠掌握到真的很難因為公權力不容易掌握到民法所規範的部分 |
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沒有錯啦部長我本來就是要跟你講說公部門已經實價登錄了而且公部門你的實價登錄你的條件你的條件大家都很清楚可以去看你沒有裝潢不一樣你沒有說我這一戶要付車位這一戶沒有付車位你的標準幾乎都是一樣的所以這一個我覺得啦我們在這個租賃市場要透明化的部分 |
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我們現在做的我們也沒有說你們錯不過我會建議把公部門的這個部分啊獨立出來讓人家好查詢讓人家好知道我這樣我會查我現在不管怎麼樣但我知道公部門大概多少這樣可不可以啊 |
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我們目前已經公布了兩次有關公部門的這些租金的相關的資訊包括他是套房、整層、雅房那是在哪一個行政區甚至是在大學周邊的這些我們都已經有公布他相關的統計資料 |
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我知道你有公布啦我的意思是說在網站上把它分開來讓民眾一查就知道啦我們來研議其實我們也希望說我們公布這個公布門的部分能夠做這個定毛的效果 |
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譬如說住宅在某一個市中心區它的租金就是這麼高那旁邊你不可能突然是三倍高但是就是像委員所說它裡面如果裝潢非常的好或者有副車位等等這些那其實它的租金就不是我們能夠一手掌握的 |
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對 我覺得我們公部門的條件都很公開你就讓大家去查詢你這個是沒有裝潢的你是毛配物或什麼的或你有帶什麼的啊你租金是多少啊你怎樣你就是很透明啊你這樣完全透明我一查就很清楚嘛那你私人的部分可能他的 |
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房子比較好一點他裝潢比較好一點可能貴個幾成我可以接受啊我覺得這樣子就很清楚了因為你要一步做到100分我覺得很困難啦但我們不是不往那邊走不過你這個公部門百分之百可以透明讓民眾非常清楚了解的我覺得先讓民眾非常清楚了解這就很簡單了我們來改進好不好謝謝 |