| IVOD_ID |
159497 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/159497 |
| 日期 |
2025-03-20 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-20-3 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期財政委員會第3次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
3 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期財政委員會第3次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-03-20T11:56:27+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-03-20T12:04:41+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:14 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/51071748fba5feb0ad82a65cbf044f42b06f2ced2e0bc09030d2cd94d4d2e021be90c14cbbb16b115ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
張啓楷 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:56:27 - 12:04:41 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-03-20T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期財政委員會第3次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請財政部莊部長翠雲率所屬機關首長暨國營事業董事長、總經理(含各轉投資事業機構公股代表之董、監事)列席業務報告，並備質詢。
二、審查行政院函請審議「海關進口稅則部分稅則修正草案」案。
三、彙總整理提出「中華民國114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算營業及非營業部分審查總報告草案」提報院會案。） |
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張旗開委員我們請莊部長 |
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昨天晚上很多人在討論這一則新聞說你們高雄國稅局辦了一個稅務突擊隊結果中獎的很多都是姓彭的他們就戲稱在網路上很多朋友都叫他說都彭家軍結果後來檢調進去追 |
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剪掉經濟查後來發現是一個誠信的被告他用遊戲系統的一個漏洞因為漏洞他建立了很多賬號所以他連線59萬次導致你們52個獎項裡面他拿走了44個那現在剪掉最近這幾天用妨害電腦使用罪來起訴他了 |
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今天我們要討論財政部辦的抽獎一定都有公信力嘛對不對一定是公平的嘛去年那個銀端發票那個事情已經引起很多討論了為什麼又發生這樣的事情 |
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跟委員報告,您剛剛所提的這個彭家軍這個並不是高雄國稅局辦的,是高雄市稅捐基徵處辦的稅捐基徵處?對,不是我們高雄國稅局辦的稅捐基徵處辦的?對,不是高雄國稅局後來你們了解,到底為什麼會出這個問題? |
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我們大概有一些初步了解大概也就是跟我們也是剛剛委員所講的第一個就是它的通關有些駭客的入侵我昨天大概看到也是一些駭客的入侵然後這個造成一些重複中獎那最後的獎項重複的部分也沒有給然後高雄市稅捐處就會向廠商來求償現在最大問題有兩個 |
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第一當然大家對政府有信心嘛如果是政府辦的它應該要是公平的嘛結果現在發現它是不公平的那第二個科技一直在進步啊不管它是不是作弊啦看起來被攻破的或者是它用它的方式去造成不公平的機率越來越大嘛不只是這個案子去年銀端發票那個也是銀端發票是台北國稅局辦的對不對 |
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沒有錯 上次那個是台北國稅局辦的那上次那個也是因為重複都是幾個人對不對那後來查的結果是因為我上次有請那個部長你們要查清楚嘛對不對你們要查出來你們說沒有法律上的問題可是你們又罰了那個承包的廠商 |
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跟委員逐一逐一的說明台北國稅局在去年辦的雲端種樹區這個部分我們第一個就是已經清查過了跟我們國稅局跟財政部所屬的所有同仁 |
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以及三星等以內我們都查過都沒有關聯這些中獎都沒有關聯連廠商的相關的廠商也都沒有關聯都沒有內部的人第二個我們也了解原因在哪裡是因為他在這個城市裡面把權重做了一些不合一些調整以至於有一些結果增高他的中獎率設計本身就有問題這個設計當然可能超出一般的通常是就是說我如果丟很多大小我機率提高而不能夠去調整權重一個這樣跟一般的常識不一樣 |
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那這個部分呢我們已經處理第一個就是說我們送檢調去查送調查局去查那他調查局初步查他已經查完以後覺得沒有不法沒有不法但是我們對於廠商呢依然請求民事的賠償現在在民事上面我們會去追溯他這個部分因為這個確實對於財政部也好國稅局也好都造成一些大家的一些信用上的一些損害這個部分我們已經向民事提起求償了 |
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這個部分我們一定在做,而未來呢,我們對作為這種所謂的網路抽獎要特別謹慎,有想像高雄市追尋處這個事情就是被人家用,就是您講的科技的進步他用某種方式來突破你的某些點而造成一些不公平,以及社會認為對於政府的一個形象的破壞,就是不能反反身對,對,對 |
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前面去清查然後去建立一個標準的晝夜程序出來嗎標準SOP要不然的話你看你高雄這個事情後來就罰了廠商那可是現在人民看到是什麼你的設計明明就是有問題嘛對不對你去加權所以導致了不公平嘛現在就是政府我今天的訴求有兩個啦有兩個事實上也是全民的訴求第一個 |
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政府辦的 特別是財政部辦的一定是要公平不要變成是一個不公平的抽獎好不好是的 一定是公平公開對 第二個更重要的 副院長剛才說的前面去清查然後以後要建立一個機制出來一定要落實是公平的好不好是的 是的我再問一個民眾很關心的問題最近你們做了一個新的規定你們說以後如果出國去買到山寨版 |
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山寨板小額免罰這個規定六月開始就要取消了以前說小額不罰嘛對不對現在不只要沒入喔就是說你如果買到山寨板你被我查到了不只沒收要罰三倍的這個價錢當然要打擊這個山寨板這個我們是肯定的可是現在碰到兩個大問題第一 民眾就反映啊買的時候我怎麼知道是真的假的對不對然後第二個他們也挑戰你們啊否定 |
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你們的海關你們有辦法去檢測那個東西是真的還是假的嗎?有沒有辦法做到嗎? |
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對一般的旅客絕對跟沒有影響跟以往都一樣那海關的確沒有辦法判定他是不是反冒品所以我們會請權利人來做鑑定那權利人不來主張的話等於是放棄他的權利權利人主張確定那是反冒品的海關才會處理 |
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所以權利人的說我如果去買那個精品就是精品店精品的這個廠商他們本身要鑑定就對了對好OK好謝謝請另外很多人問到的就是請問很多人到日本去藥妝店買東西嘛對不對是那那個不在這次的這個範圍裡面對不對沒有小沒有沒有這個範圍那不是仿冒品我去買了很多東西你們不會這個所以藥妝沒有問題藥妝我們這個規定是仿冒品那藥妝店的如果是正品 |
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證品的話是沒有問題不會有這個問題最後做一個建議好不好因為很多人去買當然他如果去買山寨品本來就應該要被罰錢要沒入啦可是如果他能他不是故意的你如果去買的時候我認為他是真的嘛對不對 |
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那我如果能夠提出一個證明譬如說不管是我的發票或者是我的這個刷卡那確實是跟真品的價格一樣這個可不可以就不要罰包委我們現在旅客的部分依照海關氣勢條例39條的規定就只有末日而已他不會處罰 |
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就是還是要默住,然後就不會罰就對了只要他有證明,證明他確實是有付的,用申請的價格去的話,就不會再罰錢?不會不會好,謝謝謝謝齊凱 |