| IVOD_ID |
159475 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/159475 |
| 日期 |
2025-03-20 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-20-3 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期財政委員會第3次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
3 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期財政委員會第3次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-03-20T12:16:56+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-03-20T12:28:51+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:11:55 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/51071748fba5feb0f38f7d19da05f4fbb06f2ced2e0bc0906c2779210393a151539f966d37fd65f05ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
王世堅 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:16:56 - 12:28:51 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-03-20T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期財政委員會第3次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請財政部莊部長翠雲率所屬機關首長暨國營事業董事長、總經理(含各轉投資事業機構公股代表之董、監事)列席業務報告，並備質詢。
二、審查行政院函請審議「海關進口稅則部分稅則修正草案」案。
三、彙總整理提出「中華民國114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算營業及非營業部分審查總報告草案」提報院會案。） |
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謝謝主席 我請莊部長莊部長其實 |
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唱歌會局到現在你這個半年來啊你的一些表現作為我知道你很努力很認真是重規重矩啦但是我如果形容比較實際一點我認為你是守成有餘開創不足啦簡單講四個字暴殘守缺所以我今天的質詢我要送你 |
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另外四個字就是與時俱進與時俱進我上次諮詢我就講如果財政部你身為部長的職責你是要看好我們的國產看好我們的稅收那我說那其實 |
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每天在場的國產署長、負稅署長都可以來接替啊甚至連我還提到連101董事長也可以來接替不是嗎所以我要告訴你的就是說你既然身為部長你帶頭 |
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你的引領的方向跟你帶動的那個精神很重要我簡單講我們現在很多財稅制度應該與時俱進比方說娛樂稅 印花稅汽車關稅 機車貨物稅保健食品關稅這些 |
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我們兩三個會期都在跟你討論那並不是說那你就一定當下你就必須怎麼定出怎麼樣的改進方式可是談了三個會期欸 天啊你至少定個time table嘛說那我們現在研究的進展的怎麼樣 |
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沒有所以這一個部分我希望你能夠聽進去我一項一項會來跟你討論這個事情我先從這個才化法才化法我們卓院長事實上在3月12號復印沒通過以後 |
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左院長就說他會來提新的版本前幾天啦 左院長在總質詢的時候接受總質詢的時候他也答覆說才化法會有新版本所以這個部分莊部長我要請問你什麼時候提出來這個新的版本 |
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好跟委員報告我想委員剛剛的一些免利跟指教我都會接受如果有更適合的人來接我都樂意交棒我想跟委員報告第二個就是您剛剛提到幾個法第一個娛樂稅法我們已經送到立法院來了對於印花稅這個部分我們也在徵詢地方政府他們都認為基於財政自主 |
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他們不贊成廢除這個部分涉及到地方稅我們都要很重要那另外對於關稅食品的關稅食品的保健食品的關稅的部分我們也跟經濟部積極的溝通那經濟部的產發署也有很具體的一個回應第一個就他認為說部分的產品可以分年的降關稅部分產品可以直接降那對於哪一些產品的範圍以及降稅的一個怎麼樣分年跟期程 |
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這個部分關務署也跟懲罰室在進一步的溝通你這一個部分對於我們詢問的委員完全沒有答覆我跟你講保健食品關稅看起來貌似很簡單的事情這是保健食品這關稅什麼了不起保健食品在我們台灣的市場1700億關 |
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自己國內生產的就1100多億你用高關稅保護了我們的表面上叫做保護國的水準結果在剝削了我們全民的健康保健不是嗎是他會分項目來做該有哪些項目討論出來你要給我們我們保健食品的關稅我跟你講啦 |
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日本4%韓國6%對岸中國才8.5%我們台灣30%你認為對嗎台灣30%欸我們現在這個菸酒 |
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菸酒的稅金才27%要維護我們健康的保健食品竟然高過可能危害我們健康的菸酒27%天啊那我們政府的態度是什麼是那所以剛剛跟委員報告經濟部產發署已經有非常具體的一個回應然後他們也會做後面的項目會你把這個回應給我們好不好你一告知 |
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你幫我告知經濟部跟他們的產發署告訴他們他們所謂的要保護我們國內生技業者、製藥業者、保健食品業者保護產業但是我們國民的健康更要緊國民的健康保健高過產業保護不是嗎 |
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現在保護的結果你看我們這些生技廠製藥的他不再製藥了不再研發新藥了所以你看我們健保已經這麼艱困之下很多藥原廠藥我們買不到好歹至少這些大廠 |
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他們趕快來做做學名藥來幫我們解除我們健保的負擔啊顧到我們國人的健康才對啊結果不是有一千多億在高關稅保護之下他們大賺大吃這一塊所以我認為會導致他們不長進而且這也嚴重影響到我們國內需要保健食品 |
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的同胞們他們的權益嘛好不好對我知道這個部分我們也會轉達產發署然後我們關務署也會跟產發署去聯繫那他已經答應你的他已經有具體的回應那我想這個部分的項目如果能夠更確認的話那就後續可以進行我們後面的作業所以我認為說所以這樣子你在這個我是肯定的有一項 |
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你在三月六你們內部有主持一個會議你提到這個財化法劃分那麼你是說這個市權就是說財權應該跟市權要有一定的 |
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調整這個要一致這是對的所以我才說你趕快提出財化法的版本到底我們地方分走多少那就把該分走的這些財權我們也把事務歸給他們讓他們去做你像現在調列出來我希望你們調列多一點像勞動部有好幾項農民保險 農業基礎建設這個 |
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應該就是你跟農業部趕快商量是不是這部分財權、事權統一錢歸到地方那地方要幫忙做啊內政部的城鎮創生營造勞動部啊依地方人口提供的這些津貼都是啊環境部的這個垃圾調度啊淨零減碳計畫很多他們都可以參與嘛所以財權 |
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市權要一次等比例這個部分是不是快點落實可不可以 |
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這個部分會是由行政院跟各部會邀請各部會去做相關的盤點就是各部會有些哪些市權要做什麼調整或者是說經費上或計劃型的補助款如何的一個做一個調整可是財政說實話主導是你們啦所以應該由你主導啦好不好這一點我希望你注意台南市因為台南也是一個很好的一個指標台南提到說因為市權的轉播 |
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撥到他們手上他們需要他們要增加支出273億但是如果照現在能夠分配給他的才163億我想地方政府包括台南高雄甚至其他台中台北大家提出的那財分部趕快收集收集大家對這件事情這調整的怎麼看法好不好我最後問你一個問題就是關於汽車關稅啦 |
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那汽車關稅現在這個我們這麼高關稅我們是降過了以後我們17.5%但是你看喔這幾年來這五年來我們台灣我們不但是全亞洲最高的汽車關稅那我們從美國進口的車輛 |
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我就以去年來講大概9.4億美金 308億台幣那我們課了他們17.5% 53.9億那我們台灣出口過去那邊的汽車我們大概平均我們抓1億美金好了 |
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他們收我們2.5關稅才收7750萬所以這一件事情我認為美國一定會來argue川普這種一定會來討的啦所以這件事情我認為剛好我們適度現在趕快去研究調降汽車關稅 |
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我們對他們釋出善意一方面加惠到我們國內這個汽車的使用者二方面也讓我們好不容易茁壯起來的國產車它也能夠平行輸入到美國去你的看法呢 |
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跟委員報告您關心這個有關汽車關稅已經有蠻長的時間了那這個部分涉及到我們國內國產汽車的一個產業的發展以及面臨現在燃油車要轉型到電動車等等因素那經濟部的產發署也都已經做過評估了然後也跟車輛工會裡面也就做過討論 |
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建議是維持那至於我們銷到美國的車子其實我們銷到它美國如同剛才委員所說的大概是31億的美金而且都是1000cc以下的沙灘車但是美國進口到我國的 |
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到我國的車輛的總值大到300多億所以是10倍我想這個部分我們其實在關稅如果他提出相關的對等關稅的時候我們會去多方面的考量第一個對國內產業的一個衝擊以及國內有什麼樣的因應的措施都在目前都在模擬因應模擬方案當中現在不調整反而是衝擊而且部長我最後提醒你 |
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我們主動調價也可以幫助我們台灣加入CPTPP好不好這是很重要的一個關鍵項目好不好委員謝謝謝謝與時俱進啦謝謝王委員 |