| IVOD_ID |
159449 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/159449 |
| 日期 |
2025-03-20 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-19-3 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第3次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
3 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第3次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-03-20T10:57:23+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-03-20T11:10:57+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:13:34 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/51071748fba5feb080d54f9f9ff9116056c3f89dc79e7a2560f1855e115a4ba4d9703f2b8768d29e5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
邱志偉 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:57:23 - 11:10:57 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-03-20T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第3次全體委員會議（事由：邀請經濟部部長列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。【3月19日及20日二天一次會】） |
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那謝謝主席 我請經濟部的郭部長郭部長是不是能源署那個代理署長對 蔡代理署長我也想 你好我想經濟部的書面報告跟這個口頭報告的資料我都看過了今天不提台積電因為大家都要提台積電昨天晚上睡不著夜觀天象 |
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東方群星燦爛,一片明亮西方星群暗淡,偶有一兩顆的星在閃爍所以我覺得台灣台積電還是永遠台積電富國神山永遠是富國神山天象可以看出台積電未來的走向 |
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從你的報告來說 你的境外關內境外關內你在捷克貿易投資中心設立了 福岡馬上設立那你的境外關內 在你的書面報告又跟這個大健康產業生態系結合我就混淆了 捷克這個貿易投資中心 你配置多少人力 |
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你預期要招多少商那福岡台灣貿易中心你要配置多少人力又怎麼樣跟大健康產業生態系結合因為我有點confuse所以我請教你一下是報告委員我想境外關聯的意思就是說在我們台灣之外的 |
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地區我們去設置這個我很清楚你目前成立這兩個中心你配置多少人力我們現在是目前以我們國貿署的同仁住在駐外外館的商業組的人目前一位或者兩位你一位兩位要變成一個台灣貿易投資中心 |
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要做境外關內的政策能力會不會不足啊我們會請 未來在福岡福岡要成立台灣貿易中心也是一兩位貿易組的同仁經濟部派出的這個諸外同仁他們有這個能力做一條龍的服務嗎報告委員我們會local high |
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會邀請當地的人有人脈關係的人來加入我們的陣容Local High是不是專業的我們必須要考慮他有沒有專業能力我們一年時間來檢驗你的境外官內的政策執行的狀況是 |
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然後這個到底創造多少產值 服務多少廠商另外你說要跟大健康產業生態系的結合用境外觀念 我就覺得奇怪怎麼突然講到大健康產業報告委員 我想大健康產業是這樣子總統在上任以後講說要健康台灣但是跟境外觀念有關係嗎 |
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這境外觀內有關係嗎?境內觀外有關係嗎?境內觀外的部分我們希望提供一些比較優惠的地方那麼讓外國的人進來我們台灣你的報告是說境內觀外打造大健康產業生態系我真的有點迷惑 |
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我有點看不懂是不是我的認知能力這個部分我是不是到委員辦公室去跟你做一個解說另外你要推動成立F16維修中心2016奉展計畫的時候在國安委員會是支持這個預算奉展計畫有幾架這個F16你知道嗎140架F16AB提升到F16V後續要採購66架的F16V你要設立一個F16維修中心 |
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維修中心是你要結合漢翔結合其他的這個軍工產業對不對是到底能夠發揮什麼樣的縱效那是維修中心是所有F16戰機不管是16V還是升級到AB是經過你們維修中心在做還是有軍方呢報告委員您的數字是我們國內的數字你還可以說國外F16 |
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也是 但這部分牽扯 抱歉我沒有辦法在這個地方做詳細的報告這是機密是不是對那我這個機密我就覺得如果用機密預算用機密會議可以請教一下我第一次聽到你這個想法好 那我請教在亞洲有F16的以色列也有啦 還有哪些國家有他們願意讓我們來維修嗎 |
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這個部分我相信這個在國安的系統所以我跟您確定我們的商員不僅是我們國內的L16一百四十家一百四十家一家六十六家其他國家L16都有可能在我們台灣維修就是對我們民主同盟的國家都願意在我們這邊維修都會有可能難怪最近軍工股股大漲另外從你的報告裡面 |
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我大概現在想要講的固然是重點 |
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但是對傳統產業你要怎麼去提振轉型這個幾乎沒有任何篇幅在做任何的描述有我相信看過了真的沒有啦你對傳統產業扣建業怎麼輔導鋼鐵怎麼輔導石化怎麼輔導你應該有詳細的對策或者你要有一個白皮書怎麼樣對傳統產業讓他們能夠恢復競爭力降低成本種種真的你也有書面報告我很詳細看因為我做高齡的時間很多 |
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我從頭看到尾就是沒有傳統產業那你也知道中南部都是傳統產業他們也會看報告是不是在經濟部沒有重視傳統產業他很煩惱所以你要從經濟部的高度來做全面性的宣示說政府是高度重視傳統產業的轉型他們認為他們已經是棄嬰棄兒 |
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氣質好像大家把所有資源都放在這個AI半導體他們有這種認知一旦認知變成他們的意識形態變成他們的想法的話那就我覺得是我們政府的問題所以這部分我希望說這部分能夠加強對傳統產業的協助跟發展那李君理李署長潛力長子的階段目前是這樣子對不對 |
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那未來區塊開發的階段,你覺得這兩個階段目前問題在哪裡呢?現階段是他們需要協助的是資金的問題因為俄烏戰爭之後,那麼他們的成本上漲那資金的問題就會形成...我問你,這兩年投資的金額有幾億? |
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大概總共加起來大概會將近一兆元的投資在那邊一兆元的投資對是你確定這個數字是正確的是你看一下你的報告你現在離一兆元還非常大累計就是說完工以後107到114你們進場投資在894億對不對你要到一兆什麼時候到一兆啊 |
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就是說我們目前合準的5.7GW通通完成我們是一個兆元的計畫預計我們大概在2026年的11月以前會全部都完成會到一兆的投資金額啊是是這個我是一個我們可以跟委員再報告一兆是你現在要增加10倍是 |
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哇如果你們達成我是覺得你們可以得到諾貝爾經濟學獎 |
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另外啊這個你們要在報告裡面寫說這台電增資不成撥補不成所造成的影響你們採取的是什麼造成什麼樣的衝擊跟影響必須要來龍去龍要交代很清楚在你們報告裡面也要讓全民知道這撥補在藍白的這個決議之下撥補沒有通過預算沒有通過所以勢必要反映在合理的電價 |
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所以是不是這次定價漲定了? |
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報告委員 電價的部分是由電價審議委員會透過專家學者你也是委員嘛 你是召集人嘛決定的這部分 你是召集人嘛我不是這個審議委員會一定是橫出他的財務狀況所以我覺得好像這個情境來看必須好像是非常不可那非常不可的原因為什麼會造成非常不可可以不漲的呢 |
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那原因出現在哪裡 我希望另外那個經部要好好對外說明另外最後一個30秒的問題我很少被按兩次鈴30秒請吳明昌台談吳董事長董事長 |
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這個您知道 您在台南現在台南有一個棒球村亞太棒球村高雄你也知道我已經爭取十年了十年不是不短的歲月人生有幾個十年 |
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我要爭取這個北高雄棒球村我們也有很好的基礎對不對你也有跟這個我們職棒球團結束他們也有這個意願來用他們資金來開發你們提供的主力來合作來撇去一個這個北高雄的棒球村就類似於台南亞太這是美式衣裝我聽到你的這個有這個想法過去的歷任董事長基本上都是相對比較消極 |
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只有你比較積極那從你的積極的態度來看目前有沒有最新的進度我知道有一個球團很大的球團他要對這一塊他們要開發非常有興趣目前您了解的狀況是怎麼樣報告委員我們在積極的跟大家這樣介紹那這個棒球室是有四個棒球場同時進行是國際性的那那個我知道委員已經有爭取了十幾年 |
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那這個是非常不得了的事情那我們那個台糖一定全力配合把那個土地那剛好15公頃剛好可以做一個棒球村M7的那個特色國際性的OK我希望說一年之內有個具體的進度跟成果最後15秒我再發表一下我的想法這個台電的基層農人是非常辛苦 |
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颱風天來 下雨天來 他們要去確保供電的穩定把停電的狀況迅速恢復 真的非常辛苦但是他們的辛苦卻得不到立法院的支持我作為經濟委員會成員 我的心情無比的沉重 |
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為什麼我們沒有辦法支持但我必須要說明我們在經濟委員會在審查預算的時候是我當造委主審的這個一千億的撥補是有通過的我們是這個凍結三十億通過這台電的撥補預算但很遺憾莫名其妙在朝野協商的時候不曉得哪邊天外飛來一筆是一個完全沒有在經濟委員會出現的一個我不曉得他叫什麼名字是一個立法委員 |
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提案 所有一千億檢列不只是藍白也有同樣提案所以我們在委會討論了這個昏天案例討論到這真的面紅耳赤做出了結論他一個提案就把他否決了藍一案白一案那我們對我們在場三位的這個這個執政黨的這個同仁是非常不公平的所以我覺得 |
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所以我希望說這個國民黨同仁都很認真也用他們專業去審查這個經濟部跟國營事業預算但是問題出在這個朝野協商的時候不曉得他們黨團哪一個人啊是出於什麼動機 出於什麼理由一千億 全部把它否決掉 |
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這可能 三位同仁啊雖然我們不同黨好 謝謝我們不同黨 但我們同心是為了台電為了國家能源的穩定啊時間已經超過了七分鐘了真的喔超過七分鐘 謝謝我以後會檢討一下是是謝謝我們沒有真的面目我們是很和諧的來討論我們的預算好 謝謝志偉委員 謝謝 |