| IVOD_ID |
159439 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/159439 |
| 日期 |
2025-03-20 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-36-3 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期司法及法制委員會第3次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
3 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
36 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
司法及法制委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期司法及法制委員會第3次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-03-20T10:23:47+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-03-20T10:35:08+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:11:21 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/51071748fba5feb02a98c26e12e864044aa23c349ee8e693525a0be0b44ec4a396fa539d5614b54a5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
王義川 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:23:47 - 10:35:08 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-03-20T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期司法及法制委員會第3次全體委員會議（事由：邀請行政院人事行政總處人事長列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。） |
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主席,請人事長請人事長委員長人事長好,請教幾個問題,中華民國公務員有反共的責任跟義務嗎?人是要用反共 |
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只是說我們在政府我們要到公部門服務的時候都會簽一些切結書不能有雙重國籍你會不會開始做國務人員的時候政府會不會叫你反共以前是用法的啦這沒規定就對了反共已經五六十年了所以中華民國的國務人員沒一定要反共 |
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第二 中華民國公務員可不可以主張武統武力統一台灣不可以這一點肯定不可以那中華民國公務員可不可以主張統一台灣 中國統一台灣那絕對不可以 那違反了我們最上位的一個原則中華民國公務員不可以主張中國統一台灣 |
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不可以那中華民國公務員可不可以有中華人民共和國的身份證不可以那可不可以有中華人民共和國的居住證那都不可以那可不可以有中華人民共和國的台胞證台胞證不可以台胞證不可以好我怕你說錯了 你靠我聽也沒關係 |
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因為你這講的都...你人事長你也說不出話來中華民國公務員可不可以每個禮拜六禮拜天都去中國?應該是沒有這個限制因為你看金門媽祖的年紀,他有時都會過去他如果請假,他沒有說他要出國 |
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五六日一 禮拜五禮拜一都請假請試假 早去中國 這樣可以嗎要先請啊 如果去台六就要先請啊那你看你的這張啦 有些還要核准啦請假的試用所以中華民國公務人員禮拜六禮拜天可不可以去中國不用請假 |
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應該去大陸市都要申請啦照你講是這樣,如果你的擔任的職務是比較敏感的我沒有講職務,我就講公務人員照移民署的規定是都要的啦中港澳都要喔?香港澳門都可以,都要喔?所以,你如果講金融的,金融管政府的人員 |
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所以拜託你問一下移民署管理的機制是什麼 |
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因為7月規定要對不對 有人遭遇對不對 沒有申請嘛他就給交給 台胞證給 他就捨棄了嘛捨棄了 我們的中華民國政府都不知道我們怕他出國而已嘛 離境嘛 |
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他電子通關他就出去了嘛他公務員他職等不高,他也不用申請啊他也不用跟政府說啊,還是怎麼樣啊這關齁,我們了解的,是有問題的事情他要地方政府,他一定要地方政府授權他也同意,他就可以上去啊他都沒說啦,都沒說 |
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都沒有說是有這個規定啦,有這個規定不行啦那你還要怎樣?一定有相關的法則啊那警察呢?都行啦,警察原來是檢測的問題啊所以如果檢舉他要上班?查證署是他所屬的副機關,他就要請陳希簽辦上來啊好,就他所屬的副機關簽辦上來,那最重要的怎樣? |
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那最重要的就不知道他是去做什麼事情沒有啦 他就去這套啦 他就去這套啦他就很愛拜六禮拜去夾夢 這套甘不可以這種 那有兩種經營啦 這種是偶爾為之 啊 這種喔 每禮拜出去了這兩種法則當然就不一樣了那他沒有就只能甘不可以 |
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所以這種法者的情況,就是他的情境上事實上不一樣這條我看你還要跟公務人員宣導一下因為我問你,你看起來也是這樣,是又不是,旁邊又站三個,改成可以又不行我問的地方很清楚,我沒有什麼陷阱給你挑 |
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好不好 中華民國公務員跑去中國 跑去香港 跑去澳門一般公務員喔 別說值等喔 他可不可以不讓中華民國政府知道他跑去哪裡意思就是 他都沒行情啦 他都沒行情那如果他沒申請 被人家檢舉 他會發生什麼事情 |
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要出去喔 要出去逮捕 要不然申請的 一定要有懲處行政機關本來就要懲處啊 去日本的 覺得跟中華民國政府說你 要有出境啊 你也要跟你服務的機關申請啊大概一星期啦學校啊公務員的我們就要請假 請假也是有 就是看你要去哪裡啊六日啦 六日啦六日去日本喔 去小琉球這樣喔 |
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好啦好啦,那些還油的我了解一下,還有沒有人報告啦這沒油啦,這大家都會回頭的那第二個,請問一下如果有公務員被傷掉,現有的服務機關可不可以拒絕? |
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目前是雙方要去協商現在我們同時也跟前續部在討論就是當事人申請你服務機關你目前的服務機關不能禁止目前我們有跟前續部在討論這個議題大概前續部是反對的沒有啦 他們沒有反對 |
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因為我以前在地方做局處長的時候,我也回到這種的,我的同事要去用吊罩,他要用吊罩代表他已經去百合都扣掉了,扣掉之後,那個單位就寫一張牌說要把他吊罩了 |
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那時候我可以說要給他照不該給他照,這個權力很大機關修長有這個權沒有不對,但是一種是給他照,一種不該給他照另外一種是做辦法的,有的可以做辦法後期,對方不可能等於辦法不是要這種的,陷我們原機關首長不義你知道嗎因為我如果不給他照,機關就照來了 |
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我阿腳中人家就要照,你就不讓他照我阿媽他就很優秀,我就不想要他照阿媽的啦,人家在咳嗽,你就不讓他照一個議員來講,兩個議員來講,這制度上變成我有財洋權那你就會陷這個首長於不義啊機關首長的佑能權,你不可以說因為喔,政委優秀的你想要留下來啊,你不希望他照啊 |
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其實我覺得這個我們最近有跟前區部還有找相關的人事主管一起在討論接下來工程人員的專業家級就是那個表期的這些適用這個表期的人員最近有沒有在檢討 |
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有政治專業加級,還有酒流獎金,還有一個工程獎金,這三個都有提起嗎?沒有,我沒有提起,我講適用的人員適用的人員也有改變啦,有報告交通方面的交通什麼公共行政交通技術有沒有納入?交通技術,有了吧? |
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有喔?這個有交流來,有交流來,因為最近喔,定年到近,最近...因為我們地方很多交通的這個專業人員,他們是交通技術的,那其實...對,他們其實跟那個土木啊,其實做的事情是一樣的,那他們沒有這一項可以用到表期,就這個專業佳績,這一塊建議你們把它納進去啦 |
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工程機關 它不是工程機關 它是一般的機關報告委員 我們那個工程機關的要件已經把交通技術執行納進來那我們調查那個地方政府的交通機關 目前都有符合這個要件最後一個 我們公務員考試考上以後 大家都想要到中央部會 |
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所以就會發生一種很詭異的事情就是他剛考上就到交通部了然後呢 他派去地方視察的時候啊來都長官嘛齁然後去到市政府 去到公所啊他被長官 你知道嗎結果他給他當公務員 做兩年啊這段學科在市政府 管政府的 公所的都被他直升 都被他學長結果他要指導這位學長你覺得這個制度對不對 |
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這個問題我委員報告 剛才我們有跟專屬部在討論地方有些職等要去做調整 有人不在進行目前應該有機會在六月底以前會在某些區塊會有一些明顯的一個調整不然的時候會發生一些很詭異的事情 我知道 我知道 看考上的變長官 |
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是然後這個坐在下面的很吱聲但是因為他是中央來的所以呢就是這很奇怪這檢討一下好不好好謝謝好謝謝王一川委員那接下來 |