| IVOD_ID |
159432 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/159432 |
| 日期 |
2025-03-20 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-20-3 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期財政委員會第3次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
3 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期財政委員會第3次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-03-20T10:01:22+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-03-20T10:14:12+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:12:50 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/51071748fba5feb0ef0f2d4cd5586371b06f2ced2e0bc090525a0be0b44ec4a335932578338c4f7e5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
郭國文 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:01:22 - 10:14:12 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-03-20T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期財政委員會第3次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請財政部莊部長翠雲率所屬機關首長暨國營事業董事長、總經理(含各轉投資事業機構公股代表之董、監事)列席業務報告，並備質詢。
二、審查行政院函請審議「海關進口稅則部分稅則修正草案」案。
三、彙總整理提出「中華民國114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算營業及非營業部分審查總報告草案」提報院會案。） |
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請郭公委員發言主席有請總部長請財政部部長嗎總部長委員好 |
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部長 最近川普的關稅這樣造成很多國家的困擾尤其他的貿易夥伴但是美國財政部長特別強調4月2日之前如果有人來溝通的話或許可以避免這個制裁那我問一下我們這邊有沒有打算去溝通啊 |
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行政部門也好,或者是企業部門,我相信在溝通的管道上應該是你會不會參與?當然我沒有去參與到美國去溝通這件事情但是我們國內的部門,我們的行政部門一直對於我們會持續的關注有沒有可能在4月2號之前去參與溝通?去溝通,4月2號之前 |
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這個我沒有參與但是關稅的部分後端的部分跟你有關係你知道為什麼嗎因為對等關稅的部分平均對等關稅的部分還是偏高主要是農產品的部分我們相對於比較高的情況底下我們基本上在美國跟台灣之間我們還是有不一樣的地方我們還是偏高偏高的部分是要調整的話 |
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那我們要從哪邊來做調整呢那調整對等關稅的話有的我們高有的他們低有的是他們低我們有我們的高那是調他們的還是調我們的譬如講以這個汽車關稅來說美國的關稅是2.5我們是17.5會有沒有可能我們17.5從對等關稅來說變成2.5有沒有可能 |
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跟委員報告這個到底對等關稅未來會怎麼樣實施以及第一個他是不是對特定國家或者是特定項目這個都還不明確但是也跟委員報告我們也進行了相關的盤點我們的汽車17.5的關稅但是我們從美國進口的是303億台幣但是我們出口到美國的大概只有30億也就是換言之我們是出進口他的多進口他的少而且我們都是1000CC |
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對還有量的問題啦所以這個部分基本上如果我們汽車製造業本來就比較弱沒有錯但是你保護一些很少的這一個汽車工業的話那相對而言我們進口很多的部分 |
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那裡頭就牽扯到一個問題啊關稅到底有沒有對等的問題啊最後還是關稅對等的問題就如同他們農產品我們進來比較多以蘋果來說我們進了蘋果的關稅20%但是99%蘋果都進來的但是只有一%的部分是本土產而已啊那這個部分就我們關稅的部分農產品的部分比較高我們是不是有要調整的空間啊我是說你如果進行盤點的話你即便還沒有參與你至少要yearly嘛你要準備起來放嘛對不對 |
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開始著手進行了沒有對我們這個部分有行政院有一個專案工作小組我們都有參與你有參與嘛這個就是有參與嘛所以有在面臨這個關稅調整的問題嘛對不對部長 |
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黃小米的這個部分的優惠關稅到3月底結束是會延續還是停止 |
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黃小玉這個相關的關稅的一個條約因為事實上除了為了穩定物價除了還黃小玉還有其他大眾的物資大眾物資不管關稅貨物稅還有營業稅的這個條件會在行政院的穩定物價小組裡面來討論不是三月底已經快到了啊到底是會停止還是延後你們都沒有開會嗎行政院在下週就會開會討論下週什麼時候開 |
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3月25號會開會好 3月25號開會的時候決定要不要延長嗎那你認為是不是要延長因為CPI的部分國內以後接下來電費可能會調漲啊關稅的問題也可能會造成CPI的增加啊那現在雖然俄烏之間的談判現在開始了但是問題是輸入型的也可能會造成其他的因素造成CPI增加所以說你也有看法怎麼樣 |
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是委員您說的各項因素在那個物價督導小組裡面都會去討論不管是國發會經濟部經營業部都會去做這個相關的你現在沒有個人的看法那我再問你因為不確定的因素實在是太多了央行上週的報告總共57頁當中有提到35次的不確定的字眼這不確定的字眼來說的話以最近常常有一些人提到說我們的這個超額稅收 |
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這個3000多億中央的部分3757億的這個部分啊要拿去普發現金一億啊這可是萬萬不可啊因為變數這麼多的情況底下可以拿去發現金嗎然後那個部長還說還債還有沒有其他的方法 |
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跟委員報告我們的稅路的情形如果優於預期的話不舉債多還債然後有剩下到稅計剩餘要怎麼樣運用第一個我們必須要考慮我們的財政穩健還有保有財政的韌性那它在運用的時候必須要考慮國家長遠整體的發展如同剛剛委員所說的國際的政經體制有相當的不確定性 |
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總預算的關係因為財富緩緩的關係我們的星期預算了2527億不能動資加總起來漢不啷噹有超過6000億之多啊但是你的稅基盈餘的部分在114年的時候預算提出來的時候剩下158億相對於112年的累積的剩餘是7044億的情況底下你是不是應該先放在稅基剩餘裡頭比較有彈性啊 部長 |
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而且您剛剛說的7000多億已經花掉剩下158億啊我知道脫貧運算的關係啊所以說你是不是排二體的部分是應該先放在稅計剩餘嘛接下來才還債嘛這樣才有彈性嘛不是嗎接下來我們要執行信息機會才有得用啊我們先還債了然後再放到稅計剩餘什麼比例 |
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現在要等到決算出來才能夠確定剛剛也有提到一個問題現在股市的不確定因為很高但是以就目前為止我們現在財政部所國安基金的規模大概是5000億 |
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那五千億國安基金成立的時候 你知道台灣的市值 台股市值多少嗎那時候多少你知道嗎 成立的時候五千億 那時候台股是八兆而已啦現在的台股市值多少 七十兆 還是停留在五千億啊 夠嗎 |
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你依照這個國安基金的設置條例當中國安基金立場進來8次現在資金規模越來越高你覺得5000真的夠嗎這個部分其實我們會隨時關注這個問題隨時關注就要修改這個設置條例隨時關注對這個是需要改條例的 |
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所以說要評估一下是不是要調高嘛是的沒有錯吧五千億不夠嘛另外一個部分有關稅金的部分部長最近有一個消息是說要四月份大查稅包括餐飲美髮這個能飲店有沒有 |
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這個部分對於基增的查核、稅務的查核是每年的例行的一個工作許南市啟動大查稅不是一個基增嗎?有沒有?沒有,我看那個署長在那邊搖頭,你就說沒有就好啦人心惶惶部長,你回答啦 |
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不是大查稅沒有大查稅對你就是要這樣反映所有的營業稅在113年的時候就超徵616億你還在大查稅你要查大企業中企業你查這種小企業小商家還不是小企業是微型還不是微型還是細微型的這種時間點你們就要開始否認 |
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517.942 |
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534.751 |
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有人在炒作嘛 不是嗎所以這個部分我覺得那個產生部你們要反應要稍微快一點好 謝謝委員接下來我還有一個部分因為這個房租的關係房租的關係在從你們110年開始租屋補貼之後我們就看到110年開始1112 113連續好幾年 |
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543.695 |
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557.684 |
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房租租金的CPI年增率大幅成長這大幅成長看起來是內政部的事情但是財政部有針對房東的專案檢查問一下現在檢查幾戶了為規律多少這個詳細的數字我是不是請署長來做說明來 署長重點 |
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563.53 |
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571.054 |
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報告委員 我們三次加起來大概才6053件那補的3億多那我們現在還在進行一個113年度 也為期兩年現在還在進行當中現在600 |
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578.803 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].end |
599.475 |
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現在是110年到112年那有沒有違規違規多少我現在看看違章的部分我沒有單獨的統計數字但是違章的稅額加起來的話違章的稅額加起來大概有我要算一下100 |
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600.396 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].end |
623.304 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].text |
但五百多億五百多萬 五百多萬 對不起我聽到五百多億我也猜到另外一個部分 署長我跟妳建議一下因為現在有從源頭應該也要查去除了房東之外有一些台灣租屋房 租租屋 一租房這些東西有沒有帳其實從這邊也可以看到出來的數據 |
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624.884 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].end |
648.25 |
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這源頭管理的問題接下來目標就是要實株登陸目標是要實株登陸要查這個用意其實要達到這個目標跟內政部來進行合作啦 好不好最後那個部長我要再用一點時間我要問一下那個台九的董事長那部長你也留著一下你們現在已經有開始傾向於反傾銷的調查嘛 |
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650.526 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].end |
656.836 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].text |
那反起銷的調查開始之後呢我們也看到主要部分一個競爭不公平反起銷的調查 |
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658.431 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].end |
682.499 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].text |
對岸惡意補貼35億來傾銷傾銷來侵佔我們的整個市佔率台酒市佔率現在不到50%然後10罐啤酒6罐是從中國進來同時他在混淆視聽標示不明好 第一點這個標示不明我問一下財政部的看法要不要修正酒類標示的管理辦法把這個產地跟品牌的標籤把它同等大小有沒有可能部長請回答 |
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跟委員報告這個部分我們正在研議看要不要做一個更明確的可以知道它的產地是哪裡而不是讓那個標示上面混淆了這個交費者所以說比例上的調整是有可能的嗎我們再來考慮這個部分要怎麼做這個方向好這是第一個第二個部分如果說地方政府地方政府不講話萬事就平安了這種情況底下不積極作為 |
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710.029 |
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那我問一下財政部難道也做事不管嗎你們有沒有可能專案稽查我們應該會有考核吧考核是另外一個行政手段嘛專案稽查才有實質的效果嘛有沒有考慮專案稽查跟委員報告目前的查核都是地方政府他們會到各個賣場可是如果是依照你們的條文當中是各個縣市都有類似這種情況呢 |
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735.748 |
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748.959 |
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那不是中央政府要有所作為嗎所以我們每年都有頒布那個菸酒茶器的專案計畫難道是另外一回事啦就專案啦聽不懂我的意思這種要遏止這種亂象啦部長 |
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754.365 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].end |
768.085 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].text |
我們會對機優的給予表揚但是對於做得不夠好的我們看有什麼樣的方式來讓他們要重視這個事情這是你平常應該做的另外兒要做應該做專案稽查部長好好考慮一下 |