| IVOD_ID |
159351 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/159351 |
| 日期 |
2025-03-19 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-26-3 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第3次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
3 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
26 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第3次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-03-19T10:54:42+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-03-19T11:03:25+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:43 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/8d8da86eec6b25b882749268f829eb8239fe1519e09d1f6f9ba850061ce77509e7bc962e133d59975ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
蘇清泉 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:54:42 - 11:03:25 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-03-19T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第3次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請勞動部部長列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。
二、處理113年度中央政府總預算附屬單位預算決議有關勞動部預算凍結報告案19案。【報告事項】【如經復議則不予處理】
三、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算關於勞動部主管部分。
【3月17日、19日及20日三天一次會】） |
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謝謝謝謝主席 謝謝召委然後請部長處委員好部長辛苦了我看你接任到現在都看 |
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都是靠藥物 沒有啦靠藥物在撐 沒有啦都靠腎上腺素啦來 我要跟你感謝這個是東港 |
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還有我們南部海邊我們漁船上的漁工不管是近海的不管是遠洋的那以前他們漁工到岸上來整理一些漁獲就被抓 |
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那後來在我還有勞動部還有漁業署的努力那終於各位看到漁船博港的時候協助卸貨、整理漁貨、整理漁具補給所需的就是可以接受、可以做你覺得這件事有多嚴重漁船在岸上,本來喔那些漁工站在船上 |
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在那邊看台灣人或是老船長、老夫婦在那邊整理魚那些魚公主站在船上看 |
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騎公車看外面的攝影台這樣啦看他做事 他們站在那邊看因為他們上岸 就被抓說不能殺魚 不能殺我跟部長報告那魚都死了 都動起來了那不是殺生 我的答案就是殺生啊 殺魚啊死了就整理魚貨而已啊 對不對 |
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那個所以其實我們很多外籍漁工其實非常辛苦的啦那當然怎麼樣讓大家的這個相關的規定能夠跟現場的狀況然後工作現場的狀況能夠來去做互相的協調所以每個船長都被划到都快要受不了啦好在有反應然後一直積極的老東部這邊後來也跟那個那個約署 |
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這是順義民情我覺得這個是非常非常棒的所以要跟你們加油謝謝蘇貞好那再來講講比較這個巴斯亞表我們通過了兩三個月了那你現在你到底是要再怎麼做你上次有跟我解釋嘛你再解釋一下讓我們大家了解好跟蘇貞還有其實很多關心的朋友說明 |
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因為這個是立法院三讀通過的法律修正案當然我們就會來執行那現在勞動部現在在做的事情是必須全力的來規劃配套那這個配套裡面最重要的事情是怎麼樣保障重症家庭的權利因為其實現在我們已經在很多地方聽聞到有些重症家庭他們的這個聘僱的看護移工其實已經有一點想要這個 |
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之前所謂說棄重則輕的狀況其實已經陸陸續續會出現所以我們要怎麼保護中正家庭權益所以我們目前其實會設計一個雙軌的程序這個雙軌的程序讓中正家庭可以在這裡面得到比較多的協助跟比較多的方便那因為這個程序的重新設計所以它會深設到其實會需要蠻多增加的人力 |
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那這個人力從經費的尋找到招募甚至人力還需要訓練這都需要一些時間 需要幾個月的時間那也包括我們其實也要到這個移工的萊爾姆國來跟他們討論能不能夠增加引進的數量 |
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那這個數量的增加那才比較能夠去因應現在可能市場大幅會很快速會增加的這樣的需求避免更大程度的市場供需的失衡所以這整體來說我們都在很審慎而且很積極的作業之中而且跟衛福部也持續的開會討論共同研商那我們評估下來這些工作算起來可能真的還是要個半年六個月 |
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那這真的不是我們刻意去做什麼行政怠惰 行政杯葛 都不是我們是要付 某個部分我們是要負起降低衝擊的責任不然如果貿然的沒有把配套做好 狀況開放真的會對中正家庭產生很多的衝擊 |
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好 這個部長說的就是我們兩個重點第一個重點就是這個外籍康復制裁他有大時間後他就可以申請他要轉僱主了嘛所以他會對這個當政的重症的他不喜歡招呼他去他要轉換僱主這個是人性啦這是第一個考量第二個考量就是真的外籍康復康復工如果比較素質比較好一點的韓國日本搶著要 |
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我們能不能搶得到我們的薪資比他們低老實講還是比較偏低所以這兩個考量那你要做好的配套這個我可以接受那再來你跟我說兩分鐘 |
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這個是外籍遺失聯的剛剛盧憲宇委員在講的事情我要跟他follow一下因為外籍的移工勞工第一批要去接到我們的原住民的工作機會 |
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那我講一個事實給你看因為原住民這邊我常常在跑屏東那邊就非常熟跟那邊也很綿密每天早上五點多就會看到泰伍啦 春日啦 萊義啦就一個班長然後開一步想要吃 店館在才會有六個七個 八個就下去到北地 還是去到高雄市去做工地 做鐵工 |
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那我這邊要我很感謝常說一萬多個人的工作機會會被外國勞工搶走我倒是建議勞動部這邊要加強要去執訓的最當然你要把那個我們原住民的朋友因為都分享體狀的你要讓他的技術水平往上拉你也讓他去騎車你要教他拔車你要讓他騎摩托車你要叫他點摩托車 |
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你騎車一天的薪水差不多一千六千八如果電磨棒的都兩千五二千六、兩千八馬上可以增加而且讓它技術水平往上拉你給它砌磚你給它做頭緒一天三千幾塊你給它調整什麼沒意思嘛那個是 |
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外籍的勞工進來我在台數六、七還看到外籍的移工連在焊接他們也接受好的訓練之後焊接他們的管線不銹鋼的管線那一天三千幾個所以你要把原住民這裡如果有人說話我頭先保溫後面保溫你一定要自己提升 |
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這第二組啦跟文說明確實現在我們看到在整體的產業討論缺工的狀況裡面最缺的就是這些技術工沒錯那這些技術工所以不管是對我想也不只對原住民但對原住民朋友我們其實可以特別怎麼樣子來協助大家做這些職業訓練讓大家在這個技術工的缺乏的狀況之下有機會可以有更好的工作的機會包括更多的收入我想這當然都是我想勞工部很樂意 |
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這個要加強一定要more attention在這一塊因為我們原住民很多朋友都當軍警我在大五雲區看到跳傘的大五雲區那整個裡面的幹部不管是軍官士官士兵原住民的朋友佔了56%還是一樣啊 |
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所以我覺得我們骨幹都在這裡所以再來就是他們勞力這一塊階級的你一定要幫他訓練讓他們拉高他的資助水平 增加他的收入這個很重要那時間到了喔 |