| IVOD_ID |
159291 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/159291 |
| 日期 |
2025-03-17 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-26-3 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第3次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
3 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
26 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第3次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-03-17T13:20:27+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-03-17T13:30:47+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:20 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/597499b2503050fbbb1ba024378e8714ad7e46c29134393c19c9681c5de839540c1acf7fe19f66a45ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
洪孟楷 |
| 委員發言時間 |
13:20:27 - 13:30:47 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-03-17T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第3次全體委員會議（事由：邀請環境部部長、衛生福利部、教育部、經濟部、台灣電力公司、台灣中油公司就「氣象變異致國內空品惡化，精進預報與跨部會應變作為」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
【3月17日、19日及20日三天一次會】） |
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主席謝謝 麻煩請彭部長請部長 |
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部長好部長先請教一下在氣候變遷因應法裡面很明文規定說2050需要進行碳排的一個方向那我們各部會都要動起來對不對那其中環境部這邊應該也針對是說我們現在行政院有個大的政策方向就是認為是說新的這個建案或者是重大的公共工程要 |
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零碳建築或是淨零碳建築嗎對不對對零碳建築是什麼基本上建築還是會排碳的但是他基本上能夠盡量的減少例如說要用資源循環的水泥或是建材等等的所以基本上我們叫做淨零碳的建築沒有辦法做到完全的零碳沒有辦法做零碳建築但是可以用其他的政策方向手段或者是說用 |
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不管是發電方式還是說那個減少碳排的部分來去做箱底嗎對就是說我說的如果建築物就是建築物的材料的本身來先做處理那會不會因為要零碳追求零碳建築而造成說建築物的安全打折 |
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不會 其實這個都建築物的成本都有一個規範的例如說什麼樣的像有些 例如說水泥或是建築物的材料它都要有一些參比的有些可以用自願循環有些是用原生的材料不一樣好 來我們看一下所以即便是鋼筋水泥大樓等等的也不會因為說要追求零碳或淨零碳建築而造成安全性有打折當然建築物安全性是一件最重要考慮的事情 |
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沒有錯嘛所以其實本席過去到現在也認為是說就是要這樣的一個方向但很遺憾啊今天本席在交通委員會質詢工程委員會的主委的時候他居然講是說沒有零碳建築啊而且他居然講說如果要追求零碳建築的話就會有安全上的一個打折啊 |
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我覺得期期為不可而且覺得說不可思議啊所以部長是不是在這邊本席也提醒因為公共工程委員會是我們全國重大工程的主管機關嘛淨零碳排氣候變遷是環境部主管沒有錯但是我們重大工程如果說能夠來做一個往 |
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零碳建築或淨零碳建築這邊來追求的話它是可以趨於這方向而不應該是雙頭馬車嘛對 包委員其實這個建築物的更新是我們在我們的這個淨零的分類是內政部在主管的所以其實內政部有提出例如說新型的建築或是老舊的建築怎麼去改變沒錯 因為本席也有看到我們行政部門也有這樣的方向嘛但是絕對不存在是說新型的建築裡面我們完全放棄零碳建築或是淨零碳建築嘛 |
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是吧沒錯所以我們國家重大工程的方向其實就是希望現在所提出來的就是以零碳建築或淨零碳建築來去做一個規劃是吧沒錯好謝謝部長部長那拉回來今天本席看到就是所謂的這個空氣品質監測的部分那你在這邊結論裡面有強調是說要成立空氣品質監測跟預報中心我想應該會是更精確的能夠掌握我們全台灣的一個空氣品質 |
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它其實是因為我們過去這個監測跟預測是在監知師另外一個師然後應變又是大氣師是兩個師那在這當中呢有一些模糊的地帶我們希望把它整併經過我們部務規則的處務規則的調整額外到大氣師然後成立一個中心能夠變成說監測預測應變合為一體來考慮這個事情是本席認同這樣的方向因為重點在於是監測完之後要怎麼樣運用以及讓 |
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地方政府也好 中央政府也好來去做一個這個因應嘛 對不對那本席有先看了一下我們現在有所謂的空氣品質監測網未來是不是你這所謂的一個監測預報中心就會結合現行有的這個監測網 |
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能夠讓我們國人有更充足或是準確的一個資訊對 其實就原來這組人移到大氣室去但是他必須加上應變的任務使命在裡面是 那我想請教一下現在的這個監測網裡面我們總共有多少個一個監測站我們環境部的大概是六十六個嘛七十八個了然後還有很多的這種所謂的微型感測器大概一萬多個 |
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地方咧中央其實是87個87個87站地方那地方 |
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三十四站這都是你們自己的官網數字啦不是要考你這個部分啦但是我現在講的是說中央87地方34那但是淨零碳排的一個部分或是空氣品質的部分剛剛其實很多人一直提到中火本席過去到現在一直強調其實北台灣影響更大的其實是林口火力發電廠因為林口火力發電廠燃煤 |
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從2015年10年前增加了第三號機組開始到現在已經也經過10年了到目前為止林口火力發電廠的一個偵測部分它是由地方政府來偵測而我們今天所討論很多的包括說PM2.5的部分因為這個算是新的一個很客觀的指標 |
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部長您知道現在林口火力發電廠此時此刻PM2.5的指數多少嗎要現場查一下要現場查一下你要不要查一下我手邊沒有我直接告訴你沒有因為這一個監測數字在你們的官網上面他是寫未監測 |
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林坤火力發電廠居然這個我也很訝異我說實在話我剛剛特別查了一下我也很訝異我要求我要拜託的是這應該是要把它納入一個數字它只有監測PM10但是PM2.5居然沒有 |
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就是說我剛剛查了在中央的87個站裡面有包括PM10 PM2.5等相關的數字但是在地方的部分我不知道是只有林口火力發電廠這邊獨特還是其他地方的監測站都一樣他居然沒有把PM2.5的資料給變成是一個監測的資料 |
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我覺得是不是如果未來我們變成說空氣品質監測跟預報中心整合在一起能夠再檢討一下中央地方的一些監測站能夠讓數字能夠更準確尤其是我相信我們很多優秀公務同仁有可能坐在林口 |
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有可能住在我們新北林口火力發電廠三部燃煤機組火力全開的時候真的對於我們整體北台灣的空氣品質有一定程度的影響部長能夠做到嗎因為那個站是台電提供的嘛台電要不要請副總回應一下來報告委員謝謝委員剛剛的詢問 |
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那個我們各個電廠含林口電廠我們本身都有跟當地的環保局有SIMS上的連線所有的資訊都有連在上面所有資訊都有的話就不會說網站上面沒秀出來這不是我自己這個是你可以現在去看是地方環保局你可以現在去看因為部長來拉回來部長 |
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這個是很實際的數字我更期待的是未來你整合你今天的報告嘛第四點嘛成立空氣品質監測與預報中心我剛才已經先肯定你喔就是說要整合幾個部會預測以及之後的應用大氣的部分一起納進來那本席也期待是說你的官網上要更精進應該是說有一站式的網頁 |
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讓國人都可以很清楚明白今天我想了解我地方附近的空氣品質的時候我去點馬上就看得出來那其實這個部分我想技術絕對不難但為什麼說過去沒有把PM2.5的這個數據給放進去而你在上面網站上面秀出來是未監測 |
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這一點我想我這樣提出來已經算是很公允我們再來瞭解一下也希望讓大家都能夠理解你有PM10但PM2.5居然沒有這樣可以嗎 |
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可以做一個檢討改進好不好大概簡單講一下我那時候我們網頁上是把環保署的環境部的78個站放進來這是第一個再來就是地方的那再來就是四個單位包括台電 中鋼等等那些建設站的方位還有特殊性工業區全部放進來 |
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那每一個站應該要測什麼項目呢那就各個站原先設站的時候就已經決定了並不是連線的問題所以那邊回頭要去看一下這些站哪一些項目在增減那個我們再 |
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抱歉 朝偉站起來 你們還是沒有抓到問題啊PN2.5是不是現在的顯學 是嘛你今天通盤的書面報告裡面都認為說PN2.5是影響空汙甚至造成說肺腺癌我還沒有請衛福部上來2015年開始林口火力發電廠增加三部機組之後過去這十年有沒有針對我們這附近肺腺癌的人口比例有沒有成長 |
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要不要去檢討要不要去監測要不要去了解要不要去做一個調查那我現在已經講了如果說過去我們沒有這樣的一個數據我也覺得很離譜是火力發電廠旁邊居然沒有監測PN2.5的數值那如果說真的沒有的話是不是應該要增加相關的設備台電應該吧 |
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那既然這樣的話是不是做一個通盤檢討因應我們現在的中心可能未來官網上線會做一個更先進的一個數據的一個呈現也讓國人更清楚明白了解環境部是玩真的是要真真正正監測我們的空汙改善環境好嗎好沒問題謝謝好謝謝 |